 Cyberzombies, How practical are they to play? |
 Jan 3 2009, 01:35 AM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872  |
I've been reading Augmentation and despite the chance of a botched implantation, upkeep and permanent background count, they seem almost feasible (assuming runners get enough cash and locate a delta grade clinic capable of performing the operation). Almost that is...
Has anyone had any success with playing a cyberzombie under the new rules? I'm curious to hear stories from the PC side of the fence, not the GM side. Not that I'm playing at present but my PCs have 3 magicially active members in the party and should have a shit fit if anyone wanted to play a 'zombie. - J. |
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Jan 7 2009, 09:13 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
only the biggest of guns, either magical OR mundane can do more than scratch and annoy a "good" CZ.
one question though: how does counter-spelling factor into this? can one dis/counter-spell a cyber-zombie? because technically, they would have to be a quickened or focus bound enchantment . . |
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Jan 7 2009, 11:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 7 2009, 10:13 PM)  only the biggest of guns, either magical OR mundane can do more than scratch and annoy a "good" CZ. one question though: how does counter-spelling factor into this? can one dis/counter-spell a cyber-zombie? because technically, they would have to be a quickened or focus bound enchantment . . Technically, they are more comparable to bound and invoked spirits. Cybemancy is a metatechnique that involves knowledge of both Invoking and Corruption (yes, technically, cybermancers would have to be toxics), both of which are directed at spirits. The end of the cybermantic ritual is a Binding test, not an enchantment. The fluff in SR4 regarding them is similar. So the question should be : can they be banished? The rules don't say anything about it. QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Jan 7 2009, 11:50 PM) When I said a good CZ would have a monster high body, I was talking about his "Natural" (as much as you can use that term while talking about a CZ) body. If a human CZ has a -10 Essence, his natural body max is 16! Until now, no one has officially managed to take a CZ below -6 Essence. Of course, the corps are working on that. I don't suspect the results to be very stable, but one has to keep in mind that cybermancy is becoming more and more reliable. |
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Jan 8 2009, 10:16 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Jan 7 2009, 11:08 PM) Technically, they are more comparable to bound and invoked spirits. Cybemancy is a metatechnique that involves knowledge of both Invoking and Corruption (yes, technically, cybermancers would have to be toxics), both of which are directed at spirits. They aren't toxic. Theyre corrupted. Granted it is a subtle but its a very important distinction. - J. |
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Jan 8 2009, 07:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 8 2009, 11:16 AM) They aren't toxic. Theyre corrupted. Granted it is a subtle but its a very important distinction. I always perceived them as corrupted as well and am aware of the difference, but Corruption is listed under toxic metamagic. |
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The Jake Cyberzombies Jan 3 2009, 01:35 AM
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7) Bec... Jan 3 2009, 07:51 AM The Jake There are certain Qualities that a CZ could acquir... Jan 3 2009, 12:05 PM toturi Sure, you can turn a Fomori into a cyberzombie and... Jan 3 2009, 12:14 PM Stahlseele even if party a uses pea-shooters and party b uses... Jan 3 2009, 08:56 PM Stahlseele QUOTE Fortunately, the Magic of 1 severely limits ... Jan 4 2009, 11:05 AM The Jake QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 4 2009, 11:05 AM)... Jan 4 2009, 11:13 AM Hagga Essence is, again, SR3 only for projection. Magic ... Jan 4 2009, 11:19 AM darthmord QUOTE (Hagga @ Jan 4 2009, 06:19 AM) Esse... Jan 6 2009, 02:14 PM Stahlseele that works rather because the time in the meta-pla... Jan 4 2009, 11:26 AM Stahlseele you think that right Jan 6 2009, 03:39 PM Hagga Yes. I know. It was more a comment on the first th... Jan 6 2009, 11:40 PM Larme Is it really immortality when your life is only ma... Jan 7 2009, 07:53 AM Dr Funfrock Especially since this hypothetical Essence -4 CZ w... Jan 7 2009, 05:24 PM Mäx QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ Jan 7 2009, 07:24 PM... Jan 7 2009, 08:59 PM InfinityzeN I've actually build quiet a few CZ (though nev... Jan 7 2009, 09:00 PM toturi QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Jan 8 2009, 05:00 AM... Jan 8 2009, 05:05 AM The Jake QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Jan 8 2009, 07:08 PM)... Jan 8 2009, 10:02 PM Larme I'm pretty sure that, if you know the ritual t... Jan 7 2009, 09:29 PM Stahlseele *snippage*
Toxins/Drugs . . if you can get it into... Jan 7 2009, 09:44 PM Larme QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 7 2009, 04:44 PM)... Jan 8 2009, 04:43 AM InfinityzeN A good CZ (read: very negative Essence) will have ... Jan 7 2009, 10:09 PM Stahlseele nice thing about toxins is, that no matter how hig... Jan 7 2009, 10:20 PM InfinityzeN When I said a good CZ would have a monster high bo... Jan 7 2009, 10:50 PM Stahlseele still has to roll good for most toxins neh? Jan 7 2009, 10:54 PM Stahlseele yeah, if you gotta do something, at least, do it t... Jan 8 2009, 10:25 PM HentaiZonga Hrm. So basically, the Essence loss below 0 repres... Jan 9 2009, 12:10 AM The Jake QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Jan 9 2009, 01:10 AM... Jan 9 2009, 01:55 AM InfinityzeN QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Jan 8 2009, 07:10 PM... Jan 9 2009, 02:41 AM The Jake QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Jan 9 2009, 02:41 AM... Jan 9 2009, 08:27 AM InfinityzeN QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 9 2009, 03:27 AM) H... Jan 9 2009, 01:51 PM TheOOB I'd assume more powerful count takes priority. Jan 9 2009, 09:03 AM Tachi QUOTE (toturi @ Jan 7 2009, 10:05 PM) Not... Jan 9 2009, 02:12 PM Stahlseele Horrendous Metagaming and Min/Maxing one-trick-pon... Jan 9 2009, 02:15 PM toturi For the adepts, simply many different powers each ... Jan 10 2009, 12:15 AM |
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