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[Neraph]

The following thread will be broken into multiple sections...

1) Inhabitation:

By conjuring a free spirit of any force (the lower the easier), or by taking the Ally Conjuration metamagic (and spending a whopping 8 karma and 500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ), you can create/conjure an inhabitation spirit (preferably with Elemental Aura) and put it in a weapon. That weapon now is treated as Dual Natured, being able to be used against spirits and projecting mages more effectively (good for the group's Street Sam).

Now, since the spirit itself isn't making the attack, the rules become a little interesting at this point. If the spirit made the attack, the weapon would gain a +4 DV and all damage would become elemental in nature. If the weapon is attacked, the attacker has to save vs. a DV equal to the spirit's force (elemental damage as well). By a strict reading of the rules, the weapon would in fact gain no damage bonus; it would simply allow mundanes to attack spirits/manifested/astral forms and ignore their ItNW.

(Disclaimer!: House Rule Ahead!) I believe that if the spirit so inhabiting had the Energy Aura power, a safe, non-game-breaking compromise would be to allow the spirit's force to be added onto the weapon damage (Elemental effects as normal). This, however, is not needed. (/House Rule)

Theorhetically, you could simulate a lightsaber (or like weapon) under similar conditions. Inhabitation spirit with Elemental Aura (Any, Light would be fitting) and Natural Weapon inhabiting a metallic cylinder/sword hilt. The spirit manifests (not like astral manifestation, more like Spirit Mask) its Natural Weapon as a beam of energy, and whammo!

This would also be able to simulate various intelligent weapons throughout myth. The spirit can only talk through the weapon (to whomever is wielding the blade), ect.

The same technique can be used to gain the use of certain powers under certain situations (and to simulate items of significant power as seen in lore and myth), simply by causing an inhabitation spirit with certain powers to inhabit various objects. To make the deal more palatable for some casters, you could promise the freedom of the spirit after a number of tasks have been completed (either the favors owed by the Binding test, or a new number after forcing the spirit to inhabit the object).

Example: Bob, the wise-cracking skull in the Dresden files can be best surmised as an Inhabitation Guidance spirit of force 8+ taking residence in a human skull.

The above concepts are best implemented by mystic adepts; summoning, binding, and "enchanting" their own weapons and equipment.

2) Free Spirits:

This section is mainly for a discussion of free spirit PCs. Through my reading of free spirit rules in Runner's Companion, it would appear the game designers have something against the use of free spirit PCs.

The average 400 BP free spirit PC would be able to replicate roughly a force 2.5 spirit (meaning he could have all the stats of a force 2 spirit, with slightly higher force and some additional skills/abilities), whereas Street Magic tells us that free spirits of such, /ahem, delicate nature are very rare (from a bound - to - free status: most bound spirits that become free are F6+).

Not only that, but the power selection seems more like punishment than an option list. A standard bound spirit going free retains all their powers, and gains more depending on their new Edge, as opposed to free spirit PCs gaining "Spirit Points" (similar to adept's power points) equal to their Edge, and the average power costs 1.6 (rounded up).

I guess the "power" available from playing a free spirit helps mitigate the hate directed towards them, but honestly, if you've only got ~11 boxes in either of your condition monitors, you've got to expect to get disrupted almost every 'run, unless you go for the Concealment power and hope you aren't even seen. On the bright side, you're almost impossible to permanently banish (excpt by vengeful GMs except by vengeful corp mages), so you'll most likely be back soon. But that doesn't amount to much if you're missing much of the campaign (and subsequently most of the karma).

Upon writing this, it occurs to me I wouldn't have such a problem with free spirit PCs if they had instead called them Wild Spirit PCs, since wild spirits follow so many fewer of the "known rules" of spirits.

3) Theorhetical Application of Above:

What exactly would happen if an initiated mage with the Ally Conjuration metamagic summoned an inhabitation spirit into himself? How exactly would the rules cover this? More specifically, if he were to arrange the inhabitation to cause a Hybrid Form inhabitation merge. Would the mage have just found a (quasi) cheaper version of playing a more powerful free spirit (and follow the free spirit rules in Street Magic)? The core rules seem to point towards the PC losing control of the character, yet there is some wording within the Inhabitation power that may allow lenient DMs to let the PC retain his character, with appropriate RP changes.

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So have I missed some things, or are the above more or less true? Discuss.

EDIT: Edited for final thougts and finishing touches. Also revised finishing thoughts for the debate from later pages.


EDIT: Added by me (Neraph), on 11/28/09 from post on: Nov 22 2009, 11:55 PM

4) Additional Information

In Running Wild, page 174, they have added very interesting rules for calling free/wild spirits and gaining favors from them, similar to summoning and binding (in that you can cause a spirit to appear and gain a number of favors from said spirit), under the Calling and Offering section.

The following is a condensed section of pertinent rules:

[ Spoiler ]

Occult Knowledge: Arcana + Logic (20, 1 day) Extended Test.

Crafting Paraphernelia: Enchanting + Magic (Force of Target Spirit, 1 day) Extended Test.

The Offering: Arcana + Logic (1) Test. This destroys the paraphernelia, causes no drain, and confers no services.

Bargaining: Negotiation + Charisma opposed by the spirit's Force + Edge.

The following involve the Spirit in question.

Skills: Assensing, Astral Combat, Dodge, Perception, Unarmed Combat

Spirit Powers: Astral Form, Banishing Resistance, Energy Drain (Karma), Inhabitation.

Qualities: Magician.

Inhabitation: Must have a prepared vessel. Enchanting + Magic (Object Resistance x3, 1 day) Extended Test and 2 refined or 1 radical reagent per 10 kilos of object (reagents are consumed during the process).

Advancement:
- It may raise its attributes, which start at a rating equal to the Force of the spirit.
- It may raise or gain new skills.
- It may initiate as a magician, although this process grants one additional free spirit power per grade instead of a metamagic technique. They are as follows:
* The spirit type's normal power list (in this case - none).
* One of the following powers: Astral Gateway, Aura Masking, Divining, Essence Drain, Materialization, Possession, or Realistic Form.
* Any metamagic technique. Free spirits use Edge in place of initiation grade.
* A unique free spirit power listed under Free Spirit Powers, p. 109 Street Magic.
- It may raise its Force, raising all attributes and powers based on Force, at the cost of new Force rating x 10.

5) Applicable Result/Guide

After completing an Occult Knowledge Test, you gain the information to Call a special type of spirit, with the powers listed above. You either craft yourself or have a contact craft for you the paraphernalia required to Call the spirit at Force 1 (two radical animal blood reagents, availability 8, 400 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) total) and preparing a chosen weapon as a Prepared Vessel (one radical animal blood reagent, availability 8, 200 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ). After successfully Calling the spirit, you bargain with it for the express reason of Inhabiting the weapon, using its powers (or powers it will gain) to keep you alive, and you will feed it with the life energy of your enemies; ie: "I know that spirits such as yourself are obsessed with power. I have a great amount of martial prowess. In return for you using your abilities to keep me alive, I will guarantee that you will feast on the souls of my enemies, adding their power to your own."

With their 2 dicepool against your Charisma + Negotiation (+ all those extra bonuses we all know and love), you will win.

The spirit (an apparent variant of a blood spirit) at Force 1 cannot gain a True Form Inhabitation Merge, as he cannot exceed the Object Resistance of the weapon you have chosen. This will result in either a Hybrid Form Inhabitation Merge (which is most desirable), or likely a Flesh Form Inhabitation Merge, causing the weapon to become Dual-Natured (now dangerous against those pesky astral forms) and much harder (Immunity [Normal Weapons]), among other things. Please note that this must take place inside a magical lodge with a Force equal or higher than that of the spirit, in this case, 1. Also, the only forseeable problem is that of the spirit in question Critically glitching on the Inhabitation check; this can be fixed with the spirit initially having the Guard power active on itself.

I present to you: Bloodmourne.

Alternatively (and more expensively), you can follow this same preceedure to similarly "enchant" barbed arrows (or bolts). As the arrow is stuck in the enemy, the spirit within begins to deal additional "DoT" (Damamge over Time) damage to him, gaining 1 point of karma per point of physical damage dealt (as per Energy Drain [Karma]). If the enemy wants to stop this, he must remove the barbed arrow.

I present to you: the Blooddrinker Arrows (I brainstormed these with Ragewind, and he insists they should be named Souldrinker Arrows, but as I'm posting this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) ).

A 1-Up for Blooddrinker Arrows would be using Injection Arrows as the base arrow, and remember to include a dose of Slab. As they lie there for at least an hour due to the Slab drug, your Bolt-Buddy finishes killing them to suck the karma out of their blood.

In all cases, the Bloodmourne™ system of Dual-Natured weapons manufacturing creates an extremely flexible system of creating a smart-weapon capable of aiding its wielder immensely (and possibly similarly to using mooks for hacking), and it only gets better over time.

[Zormal]

This might very well tell a good story. Please post it if you ever get around to running it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just one more curve-ball: Knowledge, skills and abilities are transferred, but there is more to being human. Emotions, values, habits, subconscious desires and needs do not seem to transfer (although this is arguable). I'm not sure about Inhabitation, but at least with Possession you lose the Mental Attributes of the host, and use the Spirit's. This might suggest that some things are lost when the host is consumed in the merge.

I think Neraph suggested that you can imprint the 'remaining' qualities on the Spirit when you change it through the Ally Spirit Formula. I'm not sure how fine-tuned control you have over changing the personality of the Bound Spirit, but I think you could get close enough for it to at least *appear* to be you (Am I me or am I something else? Now *that's* a story (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ).

-- Slightly Off-topic rambling ahead --

I remember reading an interesting sci-fi story about an abandoned alien base on the far side of the moon that was filled with traps. Humans made a clone of an adventurer and imprinted it with all of the original's memories. Then they stuck one of them into a sensory-deprivation tank. The other one went into the death-traps, and by some feat of science both of the men experienced what the (soon to be dead) adventurer experienced.

The guy on the moon died, but the guy in the tank saw the trap and now knew how to avoid it. So they repeated the process. The next guy died in a second trap. They continued the process over and over, all the while the main character was wondering if he was the guy about to die, or the guy in the tank experiencing what the other guy was doing on the moon; if he would die now, or wake up from the tank soonafter.

The last clone found his way through the traps and found something inside the castle. There was now two of him. The two clones met, and if I remember correctly they found out that their personalities were different. I wonder if the personalities of the clones in between were also different.

The story really made you think what is a personality, and how it is connected to memories. Writing this, I even have a faint memory of one of the clones remembering a fiery love towards a woman, meeting her and finding that he didn't feel anything. It was just an imprinted memory.
...or was that another story?

Man I wish I remembered the title of that book.