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Faraday
post Feb 23 2010, 07:17 AM
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Post wacky or deceptively deadly drone or vehicle concepts here!

I saw a fun little thing in the boards the other day and liked it plenty:
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But I think it could've been done with lower cost and an extra "pop" when the going gets tough.
I give you:
The Headless Murdercycle
Harley Davidson Scorpion [-, 12,000]
[1 Slot] Armor 16 [6R, 3,200]
[1 Slot] Ram Plate [6R, 2,500]
[1 Slot] Rigger Adaptation [4, 2,500]
[1 Slot] Motorcycle Gyro Stabilization [8, 2,400]
[2 slots] Termination System: Self Destruct[12F, 1,000]
Av: 12F
Cost: 23,600
Notes: The drone motorcycle will resist 12DV with 24 dice and likely keep driving, the target, on the other hand, needs to figure out how to deal with 24P, -1/2 Impact. If, somehow, the target requires more damage, you can detonate the bike itself for 14 (f).

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BlackHat
post Feb 23 2010, 04:42 PM
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The problem with the murdercycle is that at char-gen, you can only start with armor rating 6 (yawn) and after chargen, the extended test for INSTALLING the armor onto the bike is threshold 20, with intervals of 6 hours per test. Assuming you're losing a die on each roll (that's default, right?) I think you'd have to do a lot of work to be able to install that armor at all, let alone in any reasonable time between runs.
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE (BlackHat @ Feb 23 2010, 04:42 PM) *
The problem with the murdercycle is that at char-gen, you can only start with armor rating 6 (yawn) and after chargen, the extended test for INSTALLING the armor onto the bike is threshold 20, with intervals of 6 hours per test. Assuming you're losing a die on each roll (that's default, right?) I think you'd have to do a lot of work to be able to install that armor at all, let alone in any reasonable time between runs.


Qua?

Armour has an avail' of 6R, easily within char-gen limits.

The Vigilant and the mount to put it on are a different, Restricted Gear, matter. I did mention that.

A Bod 9 Contrail with the Sidecar and Ram Plate does 18P to itself in a ram so the maximum 18 points of Armour it can carry is sufficient. It's victim has to cope with a 27P which should be enough to maim most anything....
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post Feb 24 2010, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE (crizh @ Feb 23 2010, 11:14 AM) *
A Bod 9 Contrail with the Sidecar and Ram Plate does 18P to itself in a ram so the maximum 18 points of Armour it can carry is sufficient. It's victim has to cope with a 27P which should be enough to maim most anything....

No, it would deal 18P to its modified armor of 9, causing it to make a roll, causing it to more than likely damage itself. Mine does not have this issue.
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post Feb 24 2010, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 24 2010, 03:21 AM) *
No, it would deal 18P to its modified armor of 9, causing it to make a roll, causing it to more than likely damage itself. Mine does not have this issue.


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post Feb 26 2010, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (crizh @ Feb 24 2010, 08:05 AM) *
Qua?

Ramming attacks are at -1/2 AP Impact. Vehicle armor is considered both Ballistic and Impact armor. Therefore ramming attacks halve vehicle armor.

QUOTE (Faraday Posted Feb 23 2010, 10:07 PM )
At worst, it could do 9DV to itself, actually, unless the driver was stupid and rammed at over 200 m/turn. Very easy to deal with. No ramming vehicle can ever do more than 1.5*bod to itself.


QUOTE (QUOTE (crizh @ Feb 23 2010, 11:14 AM) )
A Bod 9 Contrail with the Sidecar and Ram Plate does 18P to itself in a ram so the maximum 18 points of Armour it can carry is sufficient. It's victim has to cope with a 27P which should be enough to maim most anything....

No, because the 18P was already the half damage to self, as the poster said. I did not check his math, however.

QUOTE (Faraday Posted Feb 23 2010, 10:07 PM )
With a ram plate, you increase the multiplier by one compared to your speed level.

No, the "damage done to the rammed vehicleis raised to the next higher damage value on the ramming table (p. 160, SR4)" (Arsenal, page 142) which is quite different. A vehicle going more than 200kph gets no benefit from a ram plate.
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- - Umidori   *shameless swipe for his collection* ~Umidori   Feb 23 2010, 08:30 AM
- - Umidori   Yo dawg, I heard you liked modding, so I put a sid...   Feb 23 2010, 09:15 AM
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|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 23 2010, 07:33 AM) I...   Feb 24 2010, 02:30 AM
- - kjones   Not related to the murdercycle, but any flying dro...   Feb 23 2010, 03:33 PM
- - D2F   Your players will hate a Dalmatian with a Mitsuham...   Feb 23 2010, 03:45 PM
- - BlackHat   The problem with the murdercycle is that at char-g...   Feb 23 2010, 04:42 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (BlackHat @ Feb 23 2010, 04:42 PM) ...   Feb 23 2010, 05:14 PM
||- - Neraph   QUOTE (crizh @ Feb 23 2010, 11:14 AM) A B...   Feb 24 2010, 03:21 AM
|||- - Faraday   QUOTE (Neraph @ Feb 23 2010, 07:21 PM) No...   Feb 24 2010, 04:07 AM
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|- - djinni   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Feb 23 2010, 01:18 PM) ...   Feb 23 2010, 08:29 PM
- - BlackHat   Ah, my bad. Even without losing dice, you're l...   Feb 23 2010, 06:07 PM
- - Draco18s   Normally you're limited to a number of rolls e...   Feb 23 2010, 07:04 PM
- - Draco18s   As opposed to just limiting the number of rolls? ...   Feb 23 2010, 09:14 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Now that I think on it, the ramming rules could re...   Feb 24 2010, 03:14 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Basically, with the ramming plate, a vehicle takes...   Feb 26 2010, 02:23 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 26 2010, 08:23...   Feb 26 2010, 03:16 PM
- - Saint Sithney   I just forgot about the 2xBod armor cap again. Nee...   Feb 26 2010, 03:39 PM
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- - crizh   That's the way I always use a Heimdall, zero s...   Feb 27 2010, 12:26 PM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (crizh @ Feb 27 2010, 07:26 AM) Tha...   Mar 28 2010, 07:43 PM
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|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Werewindlefr @ Mar 23 2010, 09:00 ...   Mar 27 2010, 05:25 AM
|- - Werewindlefr   QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 27 2010, 12:25 AM) Yo...   Mar 27 2010, 05:37 PM
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