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Omenowl
post Mar 1 2010, 04:33 PM
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Pick the most obscene character build using the 400bp and see how with equivalent karma build.

Negative qualities must be balanced with equal number of positive.
No more than 20 points in contacts
Usual limits for the build
All metatypes/races acceptable
5x attribute cost

Good luck
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Karoline
post Mar 2 2010, 09:07 PM
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Okay, so the karmagen system is even more favorable than the BP system then if there is 0 cost for race. I was simply going off what I've been told several times appears in the german RC which was produced later and would thus have anything they'd intended to errata in it.

I'm also not sure what it says in SR4A, but was under the impression that it also called for the 1x cost in karmagen.
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Kraegor
post Mar 2 2010, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 10:07 PM) *
Okay, so the karmagen system is even more favorable than the BP system then if there is 0 cost for race. I was simply going off what I've been told several times appears in the german RC which was produced later and would thus have anything they'd intended to errata in it.

I'm also not sure what it says in SR4A, but was under the impression that it also called for the 1x cost in karmagen.



If you, or anyone else can link me to the german RC errata, I have 6 people at work here who speak perfect German and can translate, and I can then post the results 100% for the dumpshock forums.

But also, please be aware, that to my knowledge, the German rulebook is put out by a different company. Its either FanPro or WizKids. Its not Catalyst that does it for the other language.

So be aware, when you are reading errata in other languages, it is not coming from Catalyst possibly, but another maker/publisher that had recieved the rights to publish it in another language/country.
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- Omenowl   Max out the BP system   Mar 1 2010, 04:33 PM
- - Draco18s   Easy. Pick a metavariant troll, max his strength ...   Mar 1 2010, 05:03 PM
- - Omenowl   ok so what does it come out as the karma equivalen...   Mar 1 2010, 06:35 PM
- - Saint Sithney   I got 995 karma. Pick a troll mage. 55 BP -> 1...   Mar 1 2010, 06:36 PM
- - Omenowl   Qualities should not factor into the equation. Th...   Mar 1 2010, 07:06 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Mar 1 2010, 02:06 PM) Qu...   Mar 1 2010, 07:08 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 02:08 PM) K...   Mar 1 2010, 07:31 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Sponge @ Mar 1 2010, 03:31 PM) Is ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:45 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Sponge @ Mar 1 2010, 02:31 PM) Is ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:54 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 11:54 AM) I...   Mar 1 2010, 08:11 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 1 2010, 03:11 ...   Mar 1 2010, 08:19 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Metavariants, like Formori, cost 2XBP in karma. Ce...   Mar 1 2010, 07:43 PM
|- - Squinky   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 1 2010, 02:43 ...   Mar 2 2010, 03:07 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Squinky @ Mar 1 2010, 10:07 PM) Hm...   Mar 2 2010, 03:08 AM
- - Omenowl   I don't have my book with me, but Karoline wit...   Mar 1 2010, 10:05 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Mar 1 2010, 05:05 PM) I ...   Mar 1 2010, 11:12 PM
- - Karoline   Okay, so looks like the best you can do is 750 BP ...   Mar 1 2010, 11:39 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 1 2010, 06:39 PM) I...   Mar 1 2010, 11:53 PM
- - Saint Sithney   So, it looks like BP is more open to abuse. Sound...   Mar 1 2010, 11:53 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 1 2010, 06:53 ...   Mar 2 2010, 12:09 AM
- - Saint Sithney   So it looks like karmagen produces more viable cha...   Mar 2 2010, 12:14 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 1 2010, 05:14 ...   Mar 2 2010, 01:30 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Mar 1 2010, 08:30 PM) Bot...   Mar 2 2010, 02:45 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 10:45 AM) K...   Mar 2 2010, 02:57 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 1 2010, 09:57 PM) 44/...   Mar 2 2010, 03:41 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 11:41 AM) F...   Mar 2 2010, 04:33 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 2 2010, 08:14 ...   Mar 2 2010, 01:42 AM
- - Glyph   I find that the overall amount of points influence...   Mar 2 2010, 03:22 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 1 2010, 10:22 PM) With...   Mar 2 2010, 03:47 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Well, when talking about getting skills above 5, I...   Mar 2 2010, 09:21 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 2 2010, 04:21 ...   Mar 2 2010, 03:05 PM
- - Karoline   Just for fun, I grabbed one of my own characters I...   Mar 2 2010, 03:45 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 11:45 PM) J...   Mar 3 2010, 01:30 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 2 2010, 08:30 PM) Exc...   Mar 3 2010, 01:35 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 09:35 AM) M...   Mar 3 2010, 08:11 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 3 2010, 03:11 AM) Edg...   Mar 3 2010, 01:18 PM
|||- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 09:18 PM) O...   Mar 3 2010, 03:43 PM
|||- - Karoline   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 3 2010, 10:43 AM) Yes...   Mar 3 2010, 03:51 PM
||||- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 11:51 PM) I...   Mar 3 2010, 11:27 PM
||||- - Karoline   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 3 2010, 06:27 PM) I c...   Mar 4 2010, 01:33 AM
||||- - toturi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 4 2010, 09:33 AM) R...   Mar 4 2010, 02:29 AM
|||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 3 2010, 10:43 AM) A m...   Mar 3 2010, 03:54 PM
||- - CeeJay   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 3 2010, 09:11 AM) How...   Mar 3 2010, 03:52 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 08:35 PM) L...   Mar 3 2010, 04:26 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 3 2010, 11:26 AM) have ...   Mar 3 2010, 04:32 PM
- - Kraegor   Please remember.. According to the RAW in RC... ...   Mar 2 2010, 08:47 PM
- - Karoline   Okay, so the karmagen system is even more favorabl...   Mar 2 2010, 09:07 PM
|- - Kraegor   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 10:07 PM) O...   Mar 2 2010, 09:53 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Kraegor @ Mar 2 2010, 04:53 PM) If...   Mar 2 2010, 10:14 PM
|- - Kraegor   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 11:14 PM) G...   Mar 2 2010, 10:52 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Kraegor @ Mar 2 2010, 05:52 PM) I ...   Mar 2 2010, 10:55 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   They have not given us the errata the English vers...   Mar 2 2010, 10:56 PM
- - Karoline   Well, personally it is a rule I rather like, the 1...   Mar 2 2010, 10:58 PM
- - Brol_The_Mighty   So, I've got SR4A IN MY HANDS and there are NO...   Mar 2 2010, 11:02 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Brol_The_Mighty @ Mar 2 2010, 06:0...   Mar 2 2010, 11:07 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 2 2010, 06:07 PM) R...   Mar 2 2010, 11:10 PM
- - X-Kalibur   I think you're remember the SR4 -> SR4A cha...   Mar 2 2010, 11:10 PM
- - Glyph   Even the enforcer archetype, with a Body and Stren...   Mar 3 2010, 03:15 AM
- - Jaid   under BP chargen, complex forms cost 1 BP per rati...   Mar 3 2010, 09:20 PM
- - Glyph   One area where BP is more optimal - some of the in...   Mar 4 2010, 03:53 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 4 2010, 11:53 AM) One ...   Mar 4 2010, 05:12 AM
- - Karoline   Infected is a quality? Doesn't that prevent a...   Mar 4 2010, 03:57 AM
- - AKWeaponsSpecialist   QUOTE (Karoline @ Mar 3 2010, 06:57 PM) I...   Mar 4 2010, 05:05 AM


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