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GregPogor
post Oct 12 2005, 11:39 AM
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One thing I loved in past Shadowrun editions rules was the relative quickness of combat rules, due to the fact that the target and the attacker both rolled once to figure out if the attack lands, and how much damage the victim would suffer. The new rules add another dice roll, now every combat attack is an opposed test: before you'd roll your attack, and the defender would roll the soak test. Now, before the soak, the defender rolls his evasive action too.

I'm considering using this "official" rule tweak:

QUOTE (Shadowrun 4 @ p. 69)
• To cut down on dice rolling during combat, you could drop Damage Resistance Tests entirely, reducing combat to a single Opposed Test. In this case, Armor would deduct directly from the attack's DV..


But if I do that, Body is quite less useful. It only adds half its rating to the damage boxes, and that's all.

So, a solution I see is making the number of boxes in the Damage Monitor [Body]+5 instead of [Body /2]+8. Same for Stun Monitor ([Willpower]+5) and Matrix Monitor ([System]+5).

Waddaya think about it?
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- GregPogor   Using the "No Soaking Roll" option   Oct 12 2005, 11:39 AM
- - Lord Ben   I think I'd play a Troll (+1) with orthoskin (...   Oct 12 2005, 12:12 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Lord Ben) I think I'd play a Troll (+1)...   Oct 12 2005, 12:35 PM
- - Lord Ben   Well, from my IC perspective any mage that mana bo...   Oct 12 2005, 12:42 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Lord Ben) Well, from my IC perspective any ...   Oct 12 2005, 12:54 PM
- - Nkari   Body is useless until you need it.. then you wish ...   Oct 12 2005, 01:12 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Nkari @ Oct 12 2005, 08:12 AM) Body is...   Oct 12 2005, 01:24 PM
- - Lord Ben   I think that the houserule of subtracting armor fr...   Oct 12 2005, 02:03 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Lord Ben)I think that the houserule of subt...   Oct 12 2005, 02:19 PM
- - Azralon   Body, using the RAW, has a quickly compound-scalin...   Oct 12 2005, 02:42 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Lord Ben) I think I'd play a Troll (+1)...   Oct 12 2005, 02:44 PM
- - Lord Ben   That's just the armor rating, tack 13 body on ...   Oct 12 2005, 02:53 PM
- - Azralon   If you just don't like rolling to soak, divide...   Oct 12 2005, 02:59 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Lord Ben @ Oct 12 2005, 08:53 AM) That...   Oct 12 2005, 03:16 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Azralon) If you just don't like rolling...   Oct 12 2005, 03:24 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (blakkie) Ah, right. I'm sooo looking f...   Oct 12 2005, 03:26 PM
- - Lord Ben   Is there something that limits how much enhancemen...   Oct 12 2005, 03:27 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (GregPogor) We make funny sentences here, in...   Oct 12 2005, 03:28 PM
- - Fortune   The whole SR4 mechanic is no more time-consuming o...   Oct 12 2005, 03:31 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Lord Ben @ Oct 12 2005, 10:27 AM) But ...   Oct 12 2005, 03:41 PM
- - Azralon   I agree with Fortune. The new system requires so ...   Oct 12 2005, 03:43 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Azralon) I agree with Fortune. The new sys...   Oct 12 2005, 03:49 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (GregPogor) So, if ONLY ONE houserule is ...   Oct 12 2005, 03:49 PM
- - Lord Ben   Yes, but you're wrong. Bone Density only incr...   Oct 12 2005, 03:55 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Lord Ben) Yes, but you're wrong. Bone ...   Oct 12 2005, 04:34 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Lord Ben @ Oct 12 2005, 09:27 AM) Is t...   Oct 12 2005, 05:42 PM
- - Fortune   No limitations of Armor Mods that I can find.   Oct 12 2005, 05:45 PM
- - blakkie   I couldn't find anything either in a quick 10 ...   Oct 12 2005, 05:48 PM
- - Fortune   Doesn't seem to even hint at anything in the w...   Oct 12 2005, 08:33 PM
- - hahnsoo   If you are concerned about rolling too many times ...   Oct 12 2005, 08:52 PM
- - TheNarrator   Actually, it's the same number of rolls in SR4...   Oct 14 2005, 02:40 AM
- - hahnsoo   I don't think it was his proposition. It...   Oct 14 2005, 02:42 AM
- - TheNarrator   Er, right. Sorry. I guess what I should have said ...   Oct 14 2005, 02:56 AM
- - Omer Joel   I am thinking about simply removing the Reaction d...   Oct 14 2005, 10:38 AM
- - Kremlin KOA   QUOTE (blakkie) QUOTE (Lord Ben @ Oct 12 2005...   Oct 14 2005, 11:17 AM
- - Azralon   Please keep in mind that eliminating defensive rol...   Oct 14 2005, 03:07 PM
- - Omer Joel   After re-reading the SR4 combat system, I think I...   Oct 14 2005, 07:16 PM
- - GregPogor   QUOTE (Omer Joel) After re-reading the SR4 combat ...   Oct 14 2005, 07:55 PM


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