 Elemental spells not worth it ?, Am I missing something? |
 Dec 8 2005, 10:58 PM
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bob that mage is picking spells to cast.
Power bolt has drain of f/2 +1, and is resisted by body flamethrower has drain of f/2+3, as an indirect spell the target rolls Reaction, then body + inpact/2. so, for more drain, the target get's more dice to resist (includeing a chance of being utterly missed), on average over twice as many, and the only advanrage is the elemental effect. yipee. what if you take the elemental effect out of the equasion? stun bolt drain is f/2-1, resisted by will powerbolt is f/2+1, resisted by body (Pysical damage) clout is f/2. resisted by resistance+body + impact and does stun. hmm, I still llike both stun bolt and powerbolt better. Or am I missing something? |
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ogbendog Elemental spells not worth it ? Dec 8 2005, 10:58 PM
Shrike30 I'd say the "added effect" of settin... Dec 8 2005, 11:04 PM Adarael Yeah. Elemental manips aren't about doing dama... Dec 8 2005, 11:23 PM ogbendog there is also the problem that you can add up to +... Dec 8 2005, 11:53 PM Jaid actually, for turning someone into a puddle, i thi... Dec 8 2005, 11:54 PM TheHappyAnarchist But is all of that really worth their sheer ineffi... Dec 9 2005, 12:04 AM Jaid sometimes indirect spells are also what you need..... Dec 9 2005, 12:08 AM FrankTrollman Remember also that while an elemental attack can m... Dec 9 2005, 12:18 AM TheHappyAnarchist Well played, Mr Trollman, well played?
Any consid... Dec 9 2005, 01:20 AM ElFenrir I know they have an Ice Sheet spell...but i always... Dec 9 2005, 02:15 AM Hasaku QUOTE (TheHappyAnarchist) Fireball
Firewave
Lig... Dec 9 2005, 02:26 AM pragma Acid is nothing to be scoffed at -- armor damage m... Dec 9 2005, 02:54 AM nick012000 Electricity's worse, though. It does Stun dama... Dec 9 2005, 11:41 AM FrankTrollman As written, Acid and Cold don't really do much... Dec 9 2005, 11:46 AM Critias QUOTE (pragma) Acid is nothing to be scoffed at --... Dec 9 2005, 11:59 AM Taki Thanks for your posts Franck Dec 9 2005, 11:59 AM TheHappyAnarchist Thank you Mr. Trollman. That was exactly what I w... Dec 9 2005, 04:57 PM Azralon QUOTE (FrankTrollman) That being said, Clout is a ... Dec 9 2005, 05:09 PM stevebugge Don't Elemental Manipulations also bypass the ... Dec 9 2005, 06:01 PM PlatonicPimp Steve, you are correct in that assuption. Dec 9 2005, 06:14 PM Demon_Bob How Cold does the spell make things.
I would assum... Dec 10 2005, 01:47 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Azralon) I was actually considering it for ... Dec 10 2005, 02:24 AM Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Hasaku) Well, the AoE versions of indirect ... Dec 10 2005, 03:21 AM Hasaku QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Dec 9 2005, 08:21 PM) ... Dec 10 2005, 03:43 AM Eyeless Blond QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE (Demon Bob) How Cold d... Dec 10 2005, 04:15 AM Shinobi Killfist even with what frank said, I still say elemental s... Dec 10 2005, 05:51 AM Hasaku Setting fire to someone carrying 20 kilos of explo... Dec 10 2005, 07:59 AM jervinator The thing I like about Elemental spells is that, d... Dec 10 2005, 03:29 PM Zen Shooter01 It depends on how close you're standing to the... Dec 10 2005, 03:46 PM Hasaku Well, I wouldn't make a mage who only used Fla... Dec 10 2005, 07:31 PM Bearclaw Will a lightning bolt to a drone still KO the rigg... Dec 10 2005, 09:36 PM Clyde A Cold effect could make streets or floors slipper... Dec 11 2005, 12:15 AM FrankTrollman 4. You are worried about Object Resistance protect... Dec 11 2005, 12:41 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Hasaku) Setting fire to someone carrying 20... Dec 11 2005, 07:33 AM Antimuppet I'd like to see a spell or two that you could ... Dec 11 2005, 06:27 PM Clyde 6th use (only for the prepared): a friendly fire s... Dec 11 2005, 09:07 PM ElFenrir I personally also like the use of a well placed Li... Dec 11 2005, 11:38 PM nick012000 QUOTE (Clyde) 6th use (only for the prepared): a f... Dec 12 2005, 08:21 AM Oracle Non-electronic AR for a mage? I doubt it. Dec 12 2005, 09:00 AM nick012000 ...
What? Dec 12 2005, 10:01 AM Oracle How would that mage get his Augmented Reality inpu... Dec 12 2005, 10:28 AM TheNarrator I think what Oracle was getting at is the rule tha... Dec 12 2005, 10:29 AM Oracle That was exactly what I meant. Dec 12 2005, 10:30 AM Kremlin KOA use ones that provide a HUD style setup, they add ... Dec 12 2005, 10:43 AM Oracle At least that is not standard equipment. Dec 12 2005, 10:54 AM Kremlin KOA why not? it is hhow RL AR systems work Dec 12 2005, 11:00 AM Azralon Well, here, get an AR vision overlay that keeps yo... Dec 12 2005, 04:17 PM Hasaku There was a rule in SR3 about how taking measures ... Dec 12 2005, 07:37 PM PlatonicPimp Hey, lets not get to defensive here. Azralon has a... Dec 12 2005, 07:57 PM FrankTrollman It's just the Hellsing spellcasting method tha... Dec 12 2005, 08:03 PM Azralon QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Covering up targets in your ... Dec 12 2005, 08:18 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Antimuppet) I'd like to see a spell or ... Dec 12 2005, 10:00 PM Hasaku QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Dec 12... Dec 14 2005, 02:26 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE I know the cover-up-your-friends technique h... Dec 14 2005, 07:31 AM Azralon So you're saying that the goggles... they do n... Dec 14 2005, 03:31 PM Hasaku QUOTE (Azralon) So you're saying that the gogg... Dec 14 2005, 04:24 PM PlatonicPimp QUOTE (FrankTrollman) until players stopped coming... Dec 14 2005, 06:13 PM FrankTrollman Not exactly.
QUOTE (SR3 FAQ)If a magician holds u... Dec 14 2005, 07:17 PM blakkie Not to entirely defend the FAQ, because it has it... Dec 14 2005, 07:31 PM PlatonicPimp Yeah, that whole moving around thing is why I only... Dec 14 2005, 09:05 PM Cain QUOTE I only disagree with the idea of discouragin... Dec 15 2005, 04:37 AM Liper biggest example of a bad problem with equipment an... Dec 15 2005, 05:29 AM blakkie QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) Yeah, that whole moving aroun... Dec 15 2005, 06:51 AM Hasaku Cain said it best. It's a creative solution to... Dec 15 2005, 03:02 PM Jestercat Well, I'm pretty new to SR4, but I've gone... Dec 15 2005, 03:38 PM Cold-Dragon I would think that, with a certain amount of stren... Dec 15 2005, 03:44 PM Hasaku QUOTE (Jestercat) 4) Go back to the ol' Physic... Dec 15 2005, 06:21 PM Azralon For sake of accuracy, I'll mention that it... Dec 15 2005, 06:24 PM PlatonicPimp QUOTE (Hasaku) tracking an agent + weird initiativ... Dec 15 2005, 07:22 PM Azralon Regarding agents and asynchronized initiative pass... Dec 15 2005, 08:15 PM Jaid i somehow doubt miracle shooter is built to handle... Dec 15 2005, 08:28 PM Azralon I'm not suggesting that it was. I'm also n... Dec 15 2005, 08:36 PM PlatonicPimp If you really wanted to get rid of the AR option, ... Dec 15 2005, 10:14 PM Jestercat Just to poke my previous point again: depending on... Dec 15 2005, 10:54 PM Hasaku QUOTE (Jestercat) Just to poke my previous point a... Dec 16 2005, 02:53 AM Jestercat You figure a broadhead at that velocity's actu... Dec 16 2005, 03:27 AM Oracle Hum...I wouldn't exactly call a hole in my che... Dec 16 2005, 06:53 AM Cold-Dragon A hole in the torso - especially around heart or l... Dec 16 2005, 07:19 AM Jestercat Indeed. Now if you had a modern-designed anti-pers... Dec 16 2005, 02:36 PM Hasaku Assault Cannon rounds are already explosive. If th... Dec 16 2005, 07:29 PM Azralon Well, there's "explosive" and then t... Dec 16 2005, 07:35 PM
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