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Cynic project
post Jan 11 2006, 08:20 PM
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I am not saying remove hard caps..I just want to know why so low?And do people like them at this level?
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- Cynic project   Are hard caps set at staring caps good?   Jan 11 2006, 08:20 PM
- - Cynic project   For those who said yes, why? Magic can be raised a...   Jan 11 2006, 11:28 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   Ah, I see you were hoping that we would vindicate ...   Jan 11 2006, 11:35 PM
- - Jaid   this isn't a vote for whether you approve of h...   Jan 11 2006, 11:52 PM
- - Coyote_Moya   I believe in hard caps, but I do not believe in th...   Jan 12 2006, 12:51 AM
- - stevebugge   Absolutely, if the caps were any higher I'd ne...   Jan 12 2006, 01:05 AM
- - mfb   i think that using the same progression for both c...   Jan 12 2006, 02:04 AM
- - Chandon   I actually prefer the idea of having the starting ...   Jan 12 2006, 02:37 AM
- - Sphynx   Not all of us want to play newbie-runners. I want...   Jan 12 2006, 07:31 AM
- - mfb   room for advancement doesn't necessarily mean ...   Jan 12 2006, 07:57 AM
- - Critias   Attribute caps? Fine. There's limits, essent...   Jan 12 2006, 08:17 AM
- - Chandon   I don't think it's reasonable for a starti...   Jan 12 2006, 08:45 AM
- - hyzmarca   I'm going to make a completly irrevelant compa...   Jan 12 2006, 09:05 AM
- - Kerberos   Well if you define reliable, as being able to kill...   Jan 12 2006, 09:56 AM
- - Critias   Yeah. 'Cause "peashooter" is what e...   Jan 12 2006, 10:17 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   An Ares Predator, being the SR equivelant of the D...   Jan 12 2006, 10:25 AM
- - Ophis   ermm Hyzmarca the normal human has ten boxes of da...   Jan 12 2006, 12:44 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hyzmarca)Mr. Average rolls with 3 body dice...   Jan 12 2006, 01:03 PM
- - hyzmarca   Exceuse me, I misread the condition moniter table....   Jan 12 2006, 01:08 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Just in SR3, there's a fair chance he miserabl...   Jan 12 2006, 01:18 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jan 12 2006, 08:1...   Jan 12 2006, 01:42 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jan 12 2006, 08:0...   Jan 12 2006, 01:56 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jan 12 2006, 03:42 PM) But ...   Jan 12 2006, 02:06 PM
- - hyzmarca   It isn't that I miss one hit kills so much as ...   Jan 12 2006, 02:34 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Similar skill levels with fixed T...   Jan 12 2006, 03:02 PM
- - nick012000   Actually, you have to take Called Shots into consi...   Jan 12 2006, 03:02 PM
- - Darkness   I' going back to the example mentioned above, ...   Jan 12 2006, 03:42 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jan 12 2006, 10:0...   Jan 12 2006, 03:51 PM
- - mfb   i don't see that as a good thing, Azralon. SR...   Jan 12 2006, 03:55 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Azralon @ Jan 12 2006, 03:51 PM) Good ...   Jan 12 2006, 03:58 PM
- - Azralon   Ah, but D&D doesn't have injury modifiers....   Jan 12 2006, 04:01 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I agree. SR4 is not the exact same thing as D...   Jan 12 2006, 04:05 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)it's less open, period. Considerin...   Jan 12 2006, 04:08 PM
- - mfb   everyone has skills and attributes, Rotbart. not e...   Jan 12 2006, 04:11 PM
- - Azralon   I'm completely with y'all on the appeal of...   Jan 12 2006, 04:19 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)I like...   Jan 12 2006, 04:21 PM
- - Darkness   Funny thing is, that for me it seems like the leth...   Jan 12 2006, 04:21 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)everyone has skills and attributes, Rot...   Jan 12 2006, 04:22 PM
- - BishopMcQ   I like the hard caps for unaugmented people. I us...   Jan 12 2006, 04:24 PM
- - mfb   ...huh? i hope you're not talking about SR3, R...   Jan 12 2006, 04:24 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb) i hope you're not talking about SR...   Jan 12 2006, 04:34 PM
- - mfb   i really don't understand what you're talk...   Jan 12 2006, 04:53 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Jaid) this isn't a vote for whether you...   Jan 12 2006, 04:55 PM
- - mfb   the hard caps on individual attributes and skills ...   Jan 12 2006, 04:57 PM
- - Azralon   If people want balanced characters, SR4 encourages...   Jan 12 2006, 05:00 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)i really don't understand what you...   Jan 12 2006, 05:11 PM
- - mfb   the problem is right there in your third sentence....   Jan 12 2006, 05:17 PM
- - Ryu   Nice for the sake of argument as that may be, a ch...   Jan 12 2006, 05:23 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)SR4 doesn't support people who like...   Jan 12 2006, 05:26 PM
- - mfb   only outward, never upward. QUOTE (Rotbart van Da...   Jan 12 2006, 05:29 PM
- - Ryu   Upward for a maxxed shooter, minimum skillset: two...   Jan 12 2006, 05:35 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)they support a loose approximation of c...   Jan 12 2006, 05:38 PM
- - stevebugge   Actually the more I see system comparrisons, the m...   Jan 12 2006, 05:46 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (Mr. Unpronouncea...   Jan 12 2006, 06:16 PM
- - Azralon   Here's what I don't get: If your characte...   Jan 12 2006, 06:38 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE The only attribute caps reachable at chargen...   Jan 12 2006, 06:56 PM
- - hyzmarca   stevebugge, if that's how you feel then you we...   Jan 12 2006, 07:31 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (hyzmarca) stevebugge, if that's how you...   Jan 12 2006, 07:47 PM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (Azralon) I mean, if you're the absolute...   Jan 12 2006, 07:52 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (RunnerPaul) QUOTE (Azralon @ Jan 12 20...   Jan 12 2006, 08:16 PM
- - Kerberos   QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Jan 12 20...   Jan 12 2006, 08:56 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Isn't that the possibility to surpass yourself...   Jan 12 2006, 09:04 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (FrankTrollman)What? Anyone can hit their Re...   Jan 12 2006, 10:29 PM
- - mfb   Rotbart, a counterpoint: tuna basketweaving. addit...   Jan 12 2006, 11:13 PM
- - BishopMcQ   QUOTE (mfb) Rotbart, a counterpoint: tuna basketwe...   Jan 12 2006, 11:39 PM
- - Mr.Platinum   is weasal butter what i think it is?   Jan 12 2006, 11:42 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb @ Jan 13 2006, 01:13 AM) Rotbart, ...   Jan 12 2006, 11:59 PM
- - ElFenrir   Reading thru the thread and some good points are m...   Jan 13 2006, 12:16 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (ElFenrir) As for attributes...i'm for n...   Jan 13 2006, 01:43 AM
- - Glyph   Keep in mind that a lot of upgrades, like muscle r...   Jan 13 2006, 03:41 AM
- - Gothic Rose   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable) QUOTE (FrankTrollman)W...   Jan 13 2006, 04:38 AM
- - mfb   the big deal has very little to do with anything i...   Jan 13 2006, 05:24 AM
- - Cynic project   Yep out of character. I want to have it within the...   Jan 13 2006, 05:44 AM
- - Critias   It's not just fictional characters or Hollywoo...   Jan 13 2006, 06:59 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   I have no issue with caps at chargen. I believe t...   Jan 13 2006, 07:11 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Critias @ Jan 13 2006, 08:59 AM) Which...   Jan 13 2006, 08:22 AM
- - Kerberos   QUOTE (Critias) It's not just fictional charac...   Jan 13 2006, 08:37 AM
- - Critias   Did you Google 'em? These guys are fat old me...   Jan 13 2006, 08:46 AM
- - Kerberos   QUOTE (Critias) Did you Google 'em? These guy...   Jan 13 2006, 09:11 AM
- - Ryu   And they would outperfom themselves if they posses...   Jan 13 2006, 12:02 PM
- - Critias   In SR4 they would. But SR3 understood that abilit...   Jan 13 2006, 12:27 PM
- - Ryu   Someone with extreme talent and mediocre training ...   Jan 13 2006, 12:44 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Critias)Someone has yet to give a good reas...   Jan 13 2006, 12:49 PM
- - Darkness   QUOTE (Critias)In SR4 they would.  But SR3 un...   Jan 13 2006, 01:25 PM
- - mfb   that's great, but it's completely tangenti...   Jan 13 2006, 01:46 PM
- - Critias   You're also conveniently forgetting how mallea...   Jan 13 2006, 01:49 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Critias)The entire point of the discussion ...   Jan 13 2006, 02:00 PM
- - mfb   as opposed to SR4, where every team's got a Fa...   Jan 13 2006, 02:04 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (Critias)The enti...   Jan 13 2006, 02:05 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Critias)Making it absurd in your opinion. D...   Jan 13 2006, 02:33 PM
- - Darkness   QUOTE (mfb @ Jan 13 2006, 02:46 PM) that...   Jan 13 2006, 02:40 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Regarding skill being worth more than raw ability:...   Jan 13 2006, 03:19 PM
- - Kerberos   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Jan 13 2006, 10:19 AM) Reg...   Jan 13 2006, 03:30 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) What about hacking? Or medical ...   Jan 13 2006, 03:31 PM
- - Critias   QUOTE (Kerberos) Personaly I prefer to think of sk...   Jan 13 2006, 03:48 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk ...   Jan 13 2006, 03:50 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Until you limit max hits by skill x 2. But yeah, ...   Jan 13 2006, 03:59 PM
- - Kerberos   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig ...   Jan 13 2006, 04:00 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   No, when you put it that way it's not. But be...   Jan 13 2006, 04:04 PM
- - Kerberos   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) No, when you put it that way it...   Jan 13 2006, 04:19 PM
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