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ChuckRozool
post Jan 19 2006, 01:10 PM
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Ok here's the deal, i'm making a character when i decide i want to buy a Colt M-23.
Now it has a conceal of 3 (i think), so i says to myself i'll just get a telescoping stock...
Problem is they don't appear to exist, at least not in any of the books i own.

The question would be what you the dumpshock community feel should be the conceal modifier for having a telescoping stock. I'm thinking a one or two, i have a friend with an AR-15, and it has a telscoping stock and there is certainly a diference in size when it's collapsed.
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- ChuckRozool   Telescoping stocks...   Jan 19 2006, 01:10 PM
- - Slump   I would just treat it as a folding stock. They bo...   Jan 19 2006, 01:18 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Since in Cannon Companion (page 83) an unfolded fo...   Jan 19 2006, 01:56 PM
- - Mr.Platinum   Yes I use the folding stocks to replace the regula...   Jan 19 2006, 02:10 PM
- - Crusher Bob   To give a more rules heavy version: Folding stock...   Jan 19 2006, 02:12 PM
- - ChuckRozool   Cool, you guys certainly know your Shadowrun... I...   Jan 19 2006, 02:27 PM
- - Aku   Crusher, whats the "logic" behind the ra...   Jan 19 2006, 02:43 PM
- - Mr.Platinum   QUOTE (ChuckRozool) Cool, you guys certainly know ...   Jan 19 2006, 02:57 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Aku) Crusher, whats the "logic" b...   Jan 19 2006, 02:59 PM
- - Crusher Bob   The ranges at which you can hit something without ...   Jan 19 2006, 03:36 PM
- - Aku   Well, i kinda see where you're coming from, bu...   Jan 19 2006, 03:55 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (Crusher Bob) The ranges at which you can hi...   Jan 19 2006, 04:26 PM
- - Lindt   QUOTE (ChuckRozool) Cool, you guys certainly know ...   Jan 19 2006, 04:38 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Jan 19 2006, 11:36 AM) T...   Jan 19 2006, 04:53 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Long range shooting requires both a weapon careful...   Jan 19 2006, 05:11 PM
- - Aku   but again crusher, i feel that TN penalties on top...   Jan 19 2006, 05:40 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Jan 19 2006, 12:11 PM) L...   Jan 19 2006, 05:46 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Nyxll)You could hit them 500 meters away if...   Jan 19 2006, 05:51 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Well, part of the problem is with granularity of t...   Jan 19 2006, 05:56 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Nyxll)You could hit them 500 me...   Jan 19 2006, 06:00 PM
- - Aku   ok MFB, i understand that the stock is an accuracy...   Jan 19 2006, 06:06 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (Crusher Bob) Well, part of the problem is w...   Jan 19 2006, 06:07 PM
- - mfb   no, no, you're looking at stocks all wrong. wh...   Jan 19 2006, 06:08 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I am of the opinion that if you want stock removal...   Jan 19 2006, 06:12 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Nyxll)Still if you can safely compensate th...   Jan 19 2006, 06:15 PM
- - mfb   nah, range category is more accurate (heh!). i...   Jan 19 2006, 06:16 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (mfb) no, no, you're looking at stocks a...   Jan 19 2006, 06:17 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Nyxll)[...] but if you can lock your arm [....   Jan 19 2006, 06:18 PM
- - Aku   QUOTE (mfb) nah, range category is more accurate (...   Jan 19 2006, 06:19 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (mfb) nah, range category is more accurate (...   Jan 19 2006, 06:20 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Jan 19 2006, 01:...   Jan 19 2006, 06:21 PM
- - mfb   no, locking your arm won't work at all. your s...   Jan 19 2006, 06:25 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Then, how do you implement the TN penalties? The ...   Jan 19 2006, 06:26 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Nyxll)I grew up in redneck country, fired m...   Jan 19 2006, 06:29 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   So, something that decreases your accuracy is goin...   Jan 19 2006, 06:31 PM
- - Nyxll   you can reduce the movement in your shoulders by a...   Jan 19 2006, 06:33 PM
- - Aku   QUOTE (Nyxll) you can reduce the movement in your ...   Jan 19 2006, 06:41 PM
- - mfb   eh, that's... yeah, sure, that works, i guess....   Jan 19 2006, 07:23 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)So, something that decreases your...   Jan 19 2006, 07:29 PM
- - mfb   but it's nonsensical. if you cut the stock off...   Jan 19 2006, 07:33 PM
- - Aku   eh, it's only special because a normal AR can ...   Jan 19 2006, 07:34 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Aku)I think it keeps flying (albeit it for ...   Jan 19 2006, 07:39 PM
- - Aku   Thats in this icky Real life (tm) that we have to ...   Jan 19 2006, 07:52 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   QUOTE (mfb)(if you're wondering, the M-249...   Jan 19 2006, 07:53 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (mfb @ Jan 19 2006, 03:33 PM) but it...   Jan 19 2006, 07:54 PM
- - mfb   hey, look, you're the one trying to insert rea...   Jan 19 2006, 07:55 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (mfb @ Jan 19 2006, 03:55 PM) SMGs were...   Jan 19 2006, 08:05 PM
- - Aku   While i've been using AR's in my example, ...   Jan 19 2006, 08:12 PM
- - mfb   i'm not being anal, i'm just saying. to me...   Jan 19 2006, 08:12 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (mfb) that's not what happens at all. an...   Jan 19 2006, 08:27 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   QUOTE (mfb)i'm talking about real life, DiGriz...   Jan 19 2006, 08:27 PM
- - mfb   barrel length of the M-16 is 508mm; the M-249 is 4...   Jan 19 2006, 08:31 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (mfb @ Jan 19 2006, 03:31 PM) barrel le...   Jan 19 2006, 08:46 PM
- - mfb   rifling, tolerances, and weapon material have litt...   Jan 19 2006, 08:51 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (mfb) barrel length of the M-16 is 508mm; th...   Jan 19 2006, 08:55 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (mfb) rifling, tolerances, and weapon materi...   Jan 19 2006, 08:57 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   QUOTE (Nyxll)As for bursts, it is more likely that...   Jan 19 2006, 09:00 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Nyxll)The SMG's bullets are smaller tha...   Jan 19 2006, 09:15 PM
- - mfb   in the original M-16/M-249 post, Aku and i were di...   Jan 19 2006, 09:18 PM
- - Aku   Which is all fine and good, and at this point, bec...   Jan 19 2006, 09:30 PM
- - hyzmarca   Bah, just houserule TN 18 beyond extreme ranges (h...   Jan 19 2006, 10:54 PM


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