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Neskeptic
post Mar 3 2006, 01:30 AM
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This question goes out to grizzled veterans of both SR3 and SR4. We haven’t played Shadowrun for about 18 months. We are about to start SR4.

My basic question is: How does it play by comparison?

Compared to your SR3 experiences, how are the SR4 rules during actual game play?

Do you find them very different? Better? Smoother? Slower? Faster? Etc.


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- Neskeptic   SR3 vs 4 in Play   Mar 3 2006, 01:30 AM
- - TinkerGnome   Just a quick reminder that everyone should read th...   Mar 3 2006, 01:38 AM
- - Neskeptic   I can't believe I missed that sticky! OK,...   Mar 3 2006, 01:41 AM
- - fool   I'm finding that combat goes more quickly now ...   Mar 3 2006, 02:03 AM
- - stevebugge   General feeling, I'm mixed. SR 3 allowed for ...   Mar 3 2006, 02:40 AM
- - Thanee   I like that things run very smooth. I always ...   Mar 3 2006, 02:45 AM
- - otomik   I've played one session as an archtype, trying...   Mar 3 2006, 08:59 AM
- - Ophis   Really finding it runs nice and smooth, a few thin...   Mar 3 2006, 11:00 AM
- - MaxHunter   It runs smoother. Eyeballing let's the GM esca...   Mar 3 2006, 01:42 PM
- - Clyde   You've definitely got to watch the money. You...   Mar 3 2006, 02:43 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Clyde @ Mar 3 2006, 09:43 AM) You...   Mar 3 2006, 03:01 PM
- - Dashifen   I played SR3 for about eight years and none of the...   Mar 3 2006, 03:36 PM
- - Solstice   Overall it runs smoother and for the most part fas...   Mar 3 2006, 04:36 PM
- - Cain   I'll be the voice of dissent. There are a lot...   Mar 3 2006, 04:51 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Solstice) Not sure I like the reverse infla...   Mar 3 2006, 05:17 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Cain) Character creation is a nightmare, wi...   Mar 3 2006, 05:26 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 12:...   Mar 3 2006, 05:30 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Azralon @ Mar 3 2006, 10:26 AM) QUOTE ...   Mar 3 2006, 05:31 PM
- - Synner   Just a couple of weeks ago I introduced two comple...   Mar 3 2006, 05:40 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Synner) Just a couple of weeks ago I introd...   Mar 3 2006, 05:45 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain) QUOTE I've taken days, but the ch...   Mar 3 2006, 05:46 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Synner) Just a couple of weeks ago I introd...   Mar 3 2006, 05:48 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Not being able to operate a laid out and for...   Mar 3 2006, 05:56 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 12:56 PM) and not a...   Mar 3 2006, 06:28 PM
- - neko128   QUOTE (Cain) QUOTE Not being able to operate a lai...   Mar 3 2006, 06:52 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Ya, SR3 was fast because Skill choices were ...   Mar 3 2006, 06:53 PM
- - FrankTrollman   Our house rules give out more equipment, contacts,...   Mar 3 2006, 06:57 PM
- - neko128   QUOTE (Cain) Yes. In almost every other game I...   Mar 3 2006, 06:59 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 01:53 PM) QUOTE Ya,...   Mar 3 2006, 07:04 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE But still we are coming back to your inabili...   Mar 3 2006, 07:10 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 02:10 PM) QUOTE But...   Mar 3 2006, 07:18 PM
- - Deadjester   I find what makes SR4 char hard to make is how the...   Mar 3 2006, 07:19 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Deadjester)I find what makes SR4 char hard ...   Mar 3 2006, 07:30 PM
- - kigmatzomat   QUOTE (Cain) Since we always create characters tog...   Mar 3 2006, 07:31 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE So this computer for this friend of yours do...   Mar 3 2006, 07:32 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Cain) He has a 386.... He....um....b...   Mar 3 2006, 07:35 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 0...   Mar 3 2006, 07:50 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Azralon @ Mar 3 2006, 02:30 PM) QUOTE ...   Mar 3 2006, 08:01 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Brahm) You sure you aren't thinking of ...   Mar 3 2006, 08:06 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE I challenge that statement. Have you tried t...   Mar 3 2006, 08:16 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain) I couldn't build him, because he ...   Mar 3 2006, 08:18 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (Brahm @ Mar 3 2006, 04...   Mar 3 2006, 08:19 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Brahm) QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 03:16...   Mar 3 2006, 09:13 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 3 2006, 04:13 PM) QUOTE (Br...   Mar 3 2006, 09:22 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Brahm @ Mar 3 2006, 05:22 PM) So you h...   Mar 3 2006, 09:25 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Azralon @ Mar 3 2006, 04:25 PM) QUOTE ...   Mar 3 2006, 09:30 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Brahm) QUOTE (Azralon @ Mar 3 2006, 04...   Mar 4 2006, 01:21 AM
- - Deadjester   I don't really believe I have hounded anyone a...   Mar 4 2006, 02:31 AM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Mar 3 2006, 08:21 PM) ...   Mar 4 2006, 02:10 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE You also do not have a replica of page 348 o...   Mar 5 2006, 09:51 AM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 5 2006, 04:51 AM) Please po...   Mar 5 2006, 05:53 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Cain)At any event, there is absolutely no r...   Mar 6 2006, 01:42 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Besides, most of the work has already been done.   Mar 6 2006, 02:16 AM
- - Xenith   SR3 certainly has it charms. The feel is nice and ...   Mar 6 2006, 03:09 AM
- - emo samurai   How do you think upping the cap on skills will wor...   Mar 6 2006, 03:34 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Cost would be double "base" cost, and re...   Mar 6 2006, 03:39 AM
- - bladepoet   Working in Infosec myself, I have to say that I pr...   Mar 6 2006, 12:33 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE I didn't realize that you were that lost...   Mar 6 2006, 05:00 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 6 2006, 01:00 PM) It takes ...   Mar 6 2006, 05:19 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Mar 5 2006, 08:42 PM) ...   Mar 6 2006, 07:01 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 6 2006, 12:00 PM) QUOTE I d...   Mar 6 2006, 07:13 PM
- - kigmatzomat   QUOTE (Cain) The biggest flaw with a detailed buil...   Mar 6 2006, 08:23 PM
- - Waltermandias   As fun as discussing the pros and cons of the new ...   Mar 6 2006, 09:16 PM
- - runefire32   I'll jump in here about character creation. S...   Mar 6 2006, 09:29 PM
- - Shrike30   Making the jump from SR3 to SR4 really didn't ...   Mar 6 2006, 10:21 PM
- - shadowfire   so sr4 is not using edges and flaws anymore?   Mar 7 2006, 01:52 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Sure they do, and they're in the main book now...   Mar 7 2006, 02:19 AM
- - hobgoblin   and some of them are allready being abused to get ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:24 AM
- - Azralon   Pshaw. Basic modern game design theory: The more ...   Mar 7 2006, 03:24 AM
- - Neskeptic   Just a quick shout out to Waltermandias for notici...   Mar 7 2006, 03:58 AM
- - mfb   i don't have any particular quarrel with SR4...   Mar 7 2006, 04:22 AM
- - wind_in_the_stones   How does it play? We've only been playing for ...   Mar 7 2006, 04:33 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE With all due respect, Cain, it sounds like S...   Mar 7 2006, 09:28 AM
- - runefire32   QUOTE Yeah, which adds to the problem. If you chan...   Mar 7 2006, 01:58 PM
- - TinkerGnome   There are some nice things about SR4's charact...   Mar 7 2006, 02:13 PM
- - kigmatzomat   QUOTE (Neskeptic) My basic question is: How does ...   Mar 7 2006, 03:10 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (kigmatzomat @ Mar 7 2006, 10:10 AM) Ve...   Mar 7 2006, 03:22 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Cain) QUOTE With all due respect, Cain, it ...   Mar 7 2006, 03:31 PM
- - Galmorez   Our group has been playing SR4 quite a bit. It is...   Mar 7 2006, 06:29 PM
- - hobgoblin   problem is that a pdf like that would undercut the...   Mar 7 2006, 06:52 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE So being able to really tweak how your chara...   Mar 8 2006, 09:11 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   I've found in play that SR4 doesn't seem s...   Mar 8 2006, 02:22 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Hm. Rereading my posts I think I'm coming off ...   Mar 8 2006, 04:35 PM
- - Cheops   I find the biggest change from 3 to 4 is that it r...   Mar 8 2006, 05:22 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Cheops) they really should release Unwired ...   Mar 8 2006, 06:02 PM
- - kigmatzomat   QUOTE (Cain) The problem is, the flexibility just ...   Mar 8 2006, 08:14 PM
- - Waltermandias   QUOTE If you don't like that the solution is s...   Mar 8 2006, 08:35 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE That isn't a matter of flexibility; that...   Mar 8 2006, 11:35 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 8 2006, 06:35 PM) His Incom...   Mar 8 2006, 11:49 PM
- - Shrike30   QUOTE (kigmatzomat) I think it's the reason so...   Mar 8 2006, 11:54 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Cain, the character you've got is an abs...   Mar 9 2006, 12:19 AM
- - Deadjester   I see you took alot of Incompetence Flaws. I thin...   Mar 9 2006, 12:22 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Deadjester)The idea of a cap on skills and ...   Mar 9 2006, 12:32 AM
- - Deadjester   I can't prove it but if you talk dirty to me a...   Mar 9 2006, 12:36 AM
- - Shrike30   The current world record for the 100 meter dash is...   Mar 9 2006, 12:45 AM
- - mfb   i think there's enough BS flying around with r...   Mar 9 2006, 12:51 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE The current world record for the 100 meter d...   Mar 9 2006, 01:22 AM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 8 2006, 07:19 PM) And as fo...   Mar 9 2006, 01:40 AM
- - Synner   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 9 2006, 01:22 AM) I'll ...   Mar 9 2006, 01:56 AM
- - JongWK   QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Deadjester)The idea of a cap on...   Mar 9 2006, 02:18 AM
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