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post Mar 3 2006, 09:31 PM
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Hey Guys, I haven't had a chance to play 4th edition yet but wondered, are trolls as strong as they were in previous versions of the game? I realize they are 40 build points but if you look at the stats for trolls, coupled with character creation rules, you get 4 free points of body (equivalent to 40 build points), just by choosing a troll. That also means you get +4 Str (another 40 build points), thermographic vision, and +1 Natural Armor. Am I wrong about their relative strength? This is of important concern to me since they also don't have to buy stat points to reduce negatives to a positive stat in this version of the game. What do you guys think?
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- mrobviousjosh   Real Ultimate Power for 40 Build Points   Mar 3 2006, 09:31 PM
- - mrobviousjosh   As a note, I used the body point examples in parti...   Mar 3 2006, 09:32 PM
- - hobgoblin   i think there was something about them only increa...   Mar 3 2006, 09:37 PM
- - mdynna   Trolls have always been imposing physical characte...   Mar 3 2006, 09:40 PM
- - mdynna   Also, SR3 used to have a rule that Trolls had to b...   Mar 3 2006, 09:41 PM
- - Azralon   Trolls get +4 Body, -1 Agility, +4 Strength, -2 Ch...   Mar 3 2006, 09:45 PM
- - Thanee   The problem with the attribute penalties is, that ...   Mar 3 2006, 09:57 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (mdynna @ Mar 3 2006, 01:41 PM) Also, S...   Mar 3 2006, 10:16 PM
- - Akimbo   The purpose of a troll is to flip out and kill peo...   Mar 3 2006, 10:27 PM
- - Dissonance   With +1 range.   Mar 3 2006, 10:28 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Akimbo) The purpose of a troll is to flip o...   Mar 3 2006, 10:30 PM
- - Magus   Plus now with the lower stun track, and trolls hav...   Mar 3 2006, 10:50 PM
- - emo samurai   Trolls can kill anyone they want.   Mar 3 2006, 10:55 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Magus) So it is far far easier to stun a tr...   Mar 3 2006, 11:13 PM
- - Magus   QUOTE (Azralon) QUOTE (Magus @ Mar 3 2006, 06...   Mar 3 2006, 11:27 PM
- - Glyph   Trolls aren't quite the combat kings that they...   Mar 4 2006, 03:39 AM
- - NeonWraith   In terms of knocking a troll out/stunning them vs....   Mar 4 2006, 01:48 PM
- - Abschalten   I was doing some world-class min-maxing and number...   Mar 4 2006, 03:39 PM
- - Kleaner   I heard that there was this troll who was eating a...   Mar 4 2006, 05:04 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   The thing that gets forgotten most often about tro...   Mar 4 2006, 05:16 PM
- - Clyde   It's important to remember the effects of the ...   Mar 4 2006, 05:30 PM
- - Brahm   QUOTE (Clyde) It's important to remember the e...   Mar 4 2006, 08:19 PM
- - Dissonance   Trolls are interesting. It's not really like ...   Mar 4 2006, 09:00 PM
- - fool   actually as far as advancement goes, trolls can ad...   Mar 5 2006, 01:07 AM
- - Glyph   I've noticed that about SR4. If you min-max t...   Mar 5 2006, 08:39 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Glyph) I've noticed that about SR4. If...   Mar 5 2006, 08:59 AM
- - Clyde   Of course that mediocrity is for humans only (meta...   Mar 5 2006, 01:31 PM
- - Ka_ge2020   I always thought that the obvious disadvantage wit...   Mar 5 2006, 03:44 PM
- - Akimbo   One of my players is as obsessed with Trolls as Ro...   Mar 5 2006, 05:35 PM
- - Shrike30   For purposes of upping statistics, I always used t...   Mar 6 2006, 08:09 PM
- - Dissonance   The book says to use post-modifier values for the ...   Mar 6 2006, 08:25 PM
- - mrobviousjosh   Hey Guys, you all have added some great insight in...   Mar 6 2006, 08:45 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Dissonance) Furthermore, when dealing with ...   Mar 6 2006, 08:46 PM
- - Shrike30   I figure a troll arm, being the size of my thigh, ...   Mar 6 2006, 09:53 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (Shrike30) I figure a troll arm, being the s...   Mar 6 2006, 09:57 PM
- - Shrike30   The way I do it operates under the assumption that...   Mar 6 2006, 10:38 PM
- - Dissonance   I've known people who did that, Shrike. I alwa...   Mar 7 2006, 12:19 AM
- - Shrike30   My personal favorite with hydraulic-assist was whe...   Mar 7 2006, 12:35 AM
- - hyzmarca   The problem with cyberlimbs on trolls is that a tr...   Mar 7 2006, 05:20 AM
- - Nidhogg   QUOTE (hyzmarca) And even so he has use up all of ...   Mar 7 2006, 05:25 AM
- - Shrike30   They do if they're using my rules A guy I kn...   Mar 7 2006, 09:08 AM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (hyzmarca) The problem with cyberlimbs on tr...   Mar 7 2006, 03:39 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Azralon) Momma Nature is still at least one...   Mar 7 2006, 03:43 PM
- - Azralon   QUOTE (TinkerGnome @ Mar 7 2006, 11:43 AM) Th...   Mar 7 2006, 03:48 PM


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