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I was looking through SOTA, where they restated that elves and dwarves change in utero, but trolls and orcs, can goblinize.

One of my other SR GM's, not Seasong, strongly disagreed with that concept and lets all metatypes goblinize. There have been occasions where I have been curious about the potential stories of characters who became something else besides a troll or orc.

What would it be like to have been considered overweight and ugly and then change overnight into a lithe fineboned elf? How would that effect the relationships. In the same vein, how would someone like a pro basketball player adjust to being less than half as tall as he was before?

During one of those conversations, I once brought up the much hated SR novel "Shadowboxer" as a very very rare example of a goblinized dwarf. I wasn't sure if it's inclusion was a mistake on the editor's part or as a canon indicator that in very very rare cases, it could happen.

Have any of your GM's given lattitude around goblinization also, or do they work pretty close to the book?
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- 2Claws   Goblinization   Oct 6 2003, 05:50 PM
- - BitBasher   I am my GM, and I use goblinization as it is out o...   Oct 6 2003, 07:39 PM
- - Ancient History   I went oer goblinization in my Metagenics page. B...   Oct 6 2003, 07:58 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I treat goblinization the canon way for exactly th...   Oct 6 2003, 09:40 PM
- - Stonecougar   *Twitches spasmodically over the thought of overwe...   Oct 6 2003, 09:46 PM
- - Large Mike   Also, (iirc) Shadowboxer was declared not cannon.   Oct 6 2003, 10:10 PM
- - Arcanum V   QUOTE (Stonecougar)*Twitches spasmodically over th...   Oct 6 2003, 10:12 PM
- - Stonecougar   Hmph. While the movies are damn good, they did mak...   Oct 6 2003, 11:32 PM
- - Reighnhell   The way I run it, Goblinization as written makes a...   Oct 6 2003, 11:33 PM
- - mfb   right, because doubling your height and mass invol...   Oct 6 2003, 11:40 PM
- - BigKnockers   But some people Goblinized through SURGE right? Pr...   Oct 6 2003, 11:42 PM
- - mfb   indeed.   Oct 6 2003, 11:45 PM
- - Arcanum V   QUOTE (Reighnhell @ Oct 6 2003, 06:33 PM) Dwa...   Oct 6 2003, 11:50 PM
- - 252   Has anything been released for what exactly this s...   Oct 7 2003, 12:05 AM
- - Ancient History   None of you have yet waded through my carefully co...   Oct 7 2003, 12:10 AM
- - 252   I refute Ancient Histories statement, I know I ha...   Oct 7 2003, 12:46 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Spike Babies really exist ( ) and were collected ...   Oct 7 2003, 01:15 AM
- - John Campbell   Have there ever been any details given as to exact...   Oct 7 2003, 02:24 AM
- - Ancient History   Yes, paranormal ANimals of North America.   Oct 7 2003, 02:43 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE John Campbell Have there ever been any detai...   Oct 7 2003, 02:46 AM
- - Hot Wheels   QUOTE (Arcanum V @ Oct 6 2003, 06:12 PM) I du...   Oct 7 2003, 12:09 PM
- - Abstruse   There are spike baby elves for sure and probably d...   Oct 7 2003, 12:49 PM
- - Ancient History   Sorry, Spike Baby elves had pointed ears, IEs may ...   Oct 7 2003, 12:55 PM
- - DV8   QUOTE (Hot Wheels) [QUOTE=Arcanum V,Oct 6 2003, 06...   Oct 7 2003, 01:35 PM
- - Hot Wheels   The IE's vary with time. If they'd had the...   Oct 7 2003, 01:41 PM
- - DV8   I wouldn't put it past him.   Oct 7 2003, 01:52 PM
- - Abstruse   Naw, I can see him totally blitzed out of his mind...   Oct 7 2003, 03:14 PM
- - mehrkat   I've never been a canon monster but in my shad...   Oct 7 2003, 09:52 PM
- - Atrox   One of the reasons why Goblinisation has to happen...   Oct 8 2003, 05:06 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Fully grown? Well, of course that wouldn't wor...   Oct 8 2003, 05:12 AM
- - DV8   From what I've understand from discussions wit...   Oct 8 2003, 09:04 AM
- - Buzzed   QUOTE (2Claws) What would it be like to have been ...   Oct 8 2003, 01:02 PM
- - Hot Wheels   Yeah, but they have to work at it. They get that +...   Oct 8 2003, 01:11 PM
- - Velocity   QUOTE DV8 wrote: From what I've understand fro...   Oct 8 2003, 03:43 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Dunno; no one I've known who had a cesarean se...   Oct 8 2003, 04:33 PM
- - DV8   QUOTE (from you-know-where to you-know-where-else)...   Oct 8 2003, 05:49 PM
- - Velocity   QUOTE Kagetenshi wrote: Dunno; no one I've kno...   Oct 8 2003, 05:50 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Given that most babies are born toothless, I'd...   Oct 8 2003, 06:19 PM
- - CanvasBack   @Velocity Your spoiler describes an episiotomy, n...   Oct 8 2003, 06:20 PM
- - DV8   QUOTE (CanvasBack) Your spoiler describes an episi...   Oct 8 2003, 06:49 PM
- - Zan   say an elf and a troll somehow get together and ha...   Oct 8 2003, 07:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Bob Paige? Have you been playing too much Deus Ex ...   Oct 8 2003, 07:14 PM
- - Zan   No. He's actually the ork who got the ork lang...   Oct 8 2003, 07:19 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Zan) My point is not all kids have the same...   Oct 8 2003, 07:31 PM
- - Zan   so elf and dwarf is a 50/50 chance?   Oct 8 2003, 07:43 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   more like 60/40...favoring the mother's metaty...   Oct 8 2003, 07:49 PM
- - BitBasher   I thought I had read somewhere that it was always ...   Oct 8 2003, 08:09 PM
- - Ancient History   There are no numbers, there is no "ladder....   Oct 8 2003, 09:00 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   Then you should read a little more carefully - I k...   Oct 8 2003, 09:17 PM
- - Ancient History   I seriously need to take a break from these baords...   Oct 8 2003, 10:20 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable)Then you should read a ...   Oct 8 2003, 10:28 PM
- - Buzzed   QUOTE (Hot Wheels) Yeah, but they have to work at ...   Oct 8 2003, 10:58 PM
- - John Campbell   The way crossbreeding works, as far as I can tell,...   Oct 9 2003, 12:34 AM
- - BitBasher   Can we get a page number and book on that? I have ...   Oct 9 2003, 12:55 AM
- - John Campbell   It's mostly from SR2 p.34 (hardcover; I assume...   Oct 9 2003, 01:10 AM
- - DV8   QUOTE (Ancient History) I seriously need to take a...   Oct 9 2003, 11:05 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Usually, yes. The cross-referencing is sufficientl...   Oct 9 2003, 11:15 AM
- - DV8   AnHi compiles information from canon source, sure....   Oct 9 2003, 11:44 AM
- - 2Claws   Great info!   Oct 9 2003, 02:19 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (John Campbell) It's mostly from SR2 p.3...   Oct 9 2003, 06:20 PM
- - Reth   Guys just to wrap it up with the Giants. You can N...   Oct 10 2003, 03:21 AM
- - John Campbell   QUOTE (Reth) Guys just to wrap it up with the Gian...   Oct 10 2003, 08:50 AM
- - DV8   If the way it has been implemented in canon materi...   Oct 10 2003, 10:15 AM
- - TinkerGnome   I'd just like to point out that the passage on...   Oct 10 2003, 12:24 PM
- - DV8   Good point, TG. But you could also reverse that; i...   Oct 10 2003, 12:43 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Well, the statement seems to logically indicate a ...   Oct 10 2003, 01:17 PM
- - Reth   Well to clarify, i didn't mean to say that gen...   Oct 10 2003, 05:41 PM
- - TinkerGnome   If the reversion rate is lower than 1%, the phrasi...   Oct 10 2003, 05:53 PM


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