 What do you like about SR4 and what changes?, SR1, 2 and 3 not included! |
 Mar 24 2006, 06:35 AM
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Idea behind this is to see what others have thought of that I have not so that I may get ideas for impoving our groups gaming. Its not about compairsions to other versions.
So off the top of my head. I like the general idea behind SR4. It seems pretty straight foward and easy to change to ones needs. I like the build system much better. I love how the skills are broken up and seem to add more to the chars for roleplaying. I love the defaulting off of attributes and how attributes help your skills. Dislikes are the combat formula. I don't like how AP and Power on ammo and hits are done vs Armor. Skill caps. I think with the present build system skill caps, that the upper skill caps should have been 2 to 4 points higher higher and that Legendary should mean more then it does, maybe with a +2 or +3 added to the high end skill caps due to the present dice effects. Don't like how stun vs damage works. |
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Deadjester What do you like about SR4 and what changes? Mar 24 2006, 06:35 AM
FrankTrollman I like all kinds of things. Too much to enumerate ... Mar 24 2006, 06:57 AM Dv84good I dislike the power of magic
I am going to take B... Mar 24 2006, 07:46 AM Cain I'll start off with the positives:A very well-... Mar 24 2006, 09:02 AM Oracle QUOTE (Cain) What drives me nuts about SR4 is that... Mar 24 2006, 09:18 AM Grinder QUOTE (Dv84good) I dislike the power of magic
I a... Mar 24 2006, 11:23 AM Ophis What I like
The new skill set up in general
The n... Mar 24 2006, 12:22 PM Dashifen QUOTE (Grinder) - No chance for uncybered, non-mag... Mar 24 2006, 02:09 PM stevebugge QUOTE (Dashifen) QUOTE (Grinder @ Mar 24 2006... Mar 24 2006, 05:14 PM Dashifen Well done. I forget about that one. Mar 24 2006, 05:19 PM mdynna What I like:
WIRELESS RULES AND HACKING (biggest ... Mar 24 2006, 06:15 PM Lindt Likes:
Wireless matrix.
A semi functional automoti... Mar 24 2006, 06:23 PM Cain QUOTE (Dashifen) QUOTE (Grinder @ Mar 24 2006... Mar 24 2006, 06:29 PM JongWK You mean like Edge? Mar 24 2006, 06:43 PM Cain No. Edge is a fixed bonus. Someone who likes a w... Mar 24 2006, 07:18 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE SR4 can't possibly cater to them all, al... Mar 24 2006, 08:34 PM Shrike30 For the group thing, you could just say that every... Mar 24 2006, 08:52 PM Brahm QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Mar 24 2006, 03:52 PM) For ... Mar 24 2006, 09:42 PM Dv84good QUOTE (mdynna) * Just wrote a quick program: an ... Mar 25 2006, 03:50 AM hobgoblin so 18% of the time it matched a world class person... Mar 25 2006, 05:25 AM Brahm QUOTE (Dv84good @ Mar 24 2006, 10:50 PM) QUOT... Mar 25 2006, 05:34 AM FrankTrollman Well, also remember that someone who "Has pla... Mar 25 2006, 06:10 AM IAmMarauder QUOTE (Dv84good @ Mar 25 2006, 03:50 AM) QUOT... Mar 25 2006, 06:13 AM Cain QUOTE (hobgoblin) so 18% of the time it matched a ... Mar 25 2006, 09:20 AM Rotbart van Dainig Using that example, you don't do yourself a fa... Mar 25 2006, 10:50 AM Synner And it's possible in just about any field pres... Mar 25 2006, 05:34 PM b1ffov3rfl0w QUOTE (mdynna)
What I don't like:
Horrendou... Mar 26 2006, 01:09 AM hobgoblin karma is a leftover from when it did both the xp p... Mar 26 2006, 01:36 AM b1ffov3rfl0w Well yeah, but the term didn't make sense ther... Mar 26 2006, 01:59 AM mfb it sorta did. SR has always sorta-kinda assumed th... Mar 26 2006, 04:16 AM Cain QUOTE And it's possible in just about any fiel... Mar 26 2006, 08:55 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Cain)However, the Joe Average will meet or ... Mar 26 2006, 09:20 AM hobgoblin QUOTE (mfb) it sorta did. SR has always sorta-kind... Mar 26 2006, 10:36 AM Jame J My main dislike is their not having included a cit... Mar 26 2006, 01:54 PM Signal QUOTE (hobgoblin)yea, its the age old criminal wit... Mar 26 2006, 03:29 PM hobgoblin i have my moments... Mar 26 2006, 04:08 PM Grinder QUOTE (Signal) SR4 continues to encourage at least... Mar 26 2006, 05:25 PM hobgoblin most likely it will only recover the edge spendt t... Mar 26 2006, 06:26 PM Grinder Surviving a self-sacrifice sounds strange to me Mar 26 2006, 06:31 PM hobgoblin i know... Mar 26 2006, 06:49 PM Cain QUOTE That's false. Incompetence: Ettiquette m... Mar 27 2006, 10:18 AM mdynna My point is: if a GM has to House Rule something w... Mar 27 2006, 05:54 PM James McMurray You are absolutely right: the difference between I... Mar 28 2006, 01:14 AM Cain QUOTE You are absolutely right: the difference bet... Mar 28 2006, 08:27 AM mdynna I'm thinking the best way to fix Incompetence ... Mar 28 2006, 02:59 PM Aaron It's true that six Incompetences would buy you... Mar 28 2006, 04:17 PM Cain QUOTE I'm thinking the best way to fix Incompe... Mar 28 2006, 07:35 PM James McMurray QUOTE
1) It's not as easy as you might ... Mar 28 2006, 08:02 PM Cain QUOTE What about the blatantly obvious solution (a... Mar 29 2006, 12:08 AM Synner QUOTE Oh, come on now. If that were the case, the... Mar 29 2006, 12:22 AM James McMurray If he wants to do something legit, then where is t... Mar 29 2006, 12:27 AM Cain QUOTE This Incompetence issue did come up in playt... Mar 29 2006, 12:29 AM James McMurray --cut out something that was a reply to a comment ... Mar 29 2006, 12:37 AM Synner QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 29 2006, 12:29 AM) Now, tha... Mar 29 2006, 12:48 AM Cain QUOTE Yep, I let him have more than 35 points in f... Mar 29 2006, 07:39 AM Glyph Personally, I think both flaws are a bad way to mi... Mar 29 2006, 08:32 AM Synner QUOTE (Cain) Again: So why did they constrain the ... Mar 29 2006, 08:51 AM mfb QUOTE (Synner)Again: They're not.
i really don... Mar 29 2006, 09:05 AM Azralon QUOTE (Synner) The control is built into GM approv... Mar 29 2006, 03:51 PM Grinder Seems so, but I have to agree with mfb's thoug... Mar 29 2006, 03:58 PM Cain QUOTE There's no serious rewrite involved eith... Mar 29 2006, 06:30 PM James McMurray Who said I wasn't allowing it for other player... Mar 29 2006, 07:59 PM James McMurray QUOTE Multi-commlink usage. (See the "commlin... Mar 29 2006, 08:41 PM Cain QUOTE I guess we have different ideas of what ... Mar 29 2006, 08:53 PM Deadjester It sounds more or less like from what I have been ... Mar 29 2006, 09:36 PM Azralon QUOTE (James McMurray)You accept imperfection in y... Mar 29 2006, 09:40 PM James McMurray If there is no "top level" there is no ... Mar 29 2006, 09:40 PM James McMurray QUOTE Which is impossible without a constant rule ... Mar 29 2006, 09:42 PM James McMurray QUOTE Every fix I implemented in the SR3 rules, I ... Mar 29 2006, 09:44 PM Cain Wow, sarcasm.
QUOTE You mean he's "anti... Mar 29 2006, 10:44 PM James McMurray http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antisocia... Mar 29 2006, 11:27 PM Cain QUOTE Does your drill seargent really deserve inco... Mar 30 2006, 12:00 AM James McMurray QUOTE Sargeant's aren't really officers, f... Mar 30 2006, 12:37 AM mfb QUOTE (James McMurray)I can jump to the moon, bala... Mar 30 2006, 01:25 AM James McMurray It's easy to jump to the moon in SR4?
Maybe ... Mar 30 2006, 01:33 AM mfb in SR4, if you spend Edge, you get rule of 6. ever... Mar 30 2006, 01:41 AM Cain QUOTE NCO includes the letter "O." Basic... Mar 30 2006, 02:42 AM James McMurray QUOTE in SR3 or even d20, rolling a single really ... Mar 30 2006, 03:24 AM mfb QUOTE (James McMurray)In SR3 you can roll a huge n... Mar 30 2006, 03:42 AM James McMurray In an open test if you rolled a 67 on your one die... Mar 30 2006, 03:49 AM mfb open tests are retarded and need to be drug out ba... Mar 30 2006, 03:56 AM James McMurray Ah, so then SR3 works great if you don't actua... Mar 30 2006, 04:05 AM Cain QUOTE In SR3 you can roll a huge number and perfor... Mar 30 2006, 04:08 AM James McMurray QUOTE And yippee, you've scored a single succe... Mar 30 2006, 04:22 AM mfb QUOTE (James McMurray)Ah, so then SR3 works great ... Mar 30 2006, 04:29 AM James McMurray Cool. We'll just have to disagree then, at lea... Mar 30 2006, 04:56 AM Cain QUOTE It's likely that a programmer is going t... Mar 30 2006, 05:11 AM James McMurray QUOTE You're reading the wrong example. I show... Mar 30 2006, 06:49 PM Cain QUOTE I already responded to that one.
Yeah, you ... Mar 30 2006, 08:42 PM James McMurray QUOTE What do you do when people use the same tric... Mar 30 2006, 08:53 PM mfb QUOTE (James McMurray)I don't have to. My play... Mar 30 2006, 08:56 PM Dissonance "I don't want to create a pistol adept wh... Mar 30 2006, 08:59 PM mfb both stances ignore basic game mechanics in favor ... Mar 30 2006, 09:01 PM Dissonance I don't agree with you. The desire to not mak... Mar 30 2006, 09:04 PM James McMurray No, they ignore core game mechanics in favor of fo... Mar 30 2006, 09:08 PM Azralon QUOTE (Dissonance) Isn't there some kind of mi... Mar 30 2006, 09:09 PM mfb if you start out as the BBMFIAOMFD, you don't ... Mar 30 2006, 09:10 PM Azralon Don't you ever get tired of everyone in the co... Mar 30 2006, 09:14 PM Dissonance Well, I suppose that's the glorious thing abou... Mar 30 2006, 09:17 PM
mfb i agree, re: edge, except that it happens way too ... Mar 30 2006, 09:32 PM  |
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