 Trolz R Stoopuhd, and orks are trouble |
 Oct 9 2003, 05:34 AM
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I've been out of the Shadowrun loop for a while, so excuse my ignorance if it's showing. But I remember trolls being mentally challenged, and now in third edition people just 'think' they're a bunch of delberts because of the shape of their pallets. "I'm not a doofus. I have a speach impediment." Has political correctness invaded Shadowrun? Do we have to worry about upsetting non-existent races too?
I also seem to remember that orks were a societal pain the the hiney. I don't see this in the SR3 stuff I've checked out and I think that sucks. It made total since that orks would be a problem. Remember when you were 14 and fully convinced you could kick anybodies ass? Full of piss and vinegar and suffering from testosterone poisoning. Now think about an ork. He reaches physical maturity at about 14 and physical maturity for an ork is like a human power lifter. Add to that the fact that orks as a race are undoubtably pissed off about the fact that they are likely to die from old age before the other races even reach middle age. Think about gangs of young orks prowling the streets. Big, angry, puffed-up and looking to impress their buds, filled with a since of apathy about tomorrow. Anyhow, is this stuff still an issue in third edition? I don't notice it. |
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Munchkinslayer Trolz R Stoopuhd Oct 9 2003, 05:34 AM
The White Dwarf Not exactly sure what youre getting at. The game ... Oct 9 2003, 05:44 AM White Knight Well, I haven't noticed any changes personally... Oct 9 2003, 05:53 AM kenny26 i haven't played any other edition of SR but 3... Oct 9 2003, 09:29 AM Abstruse You're also feeding into the stereotypes of th... Oct 9 2003, 09:53 AM John Campbell Note that the SR3 metatype descriptions, unlike th... Oct 9 2003, 09:54 AM Munchkinslayer Nice point Johnny C! I never even thought of ... Oct 9 2003, 10:12 AM Cray74 QUOTE (Munchkinslayer)I've been out of the Sha... Oct 9 2003, 10:15 AM thunderchild QUOTE (Munchkinslayer) Nice point Johnny C! I... Oct 9 2003, 12:00 PM Abstruse The troll in Nosferatu seemed like he wasn't a... Oct 9 2003, 12:11 PM Hot Wheels The intell and charisma penalties mean that the av... Oct 9 2003, 12:15 PM Cray74 QUOTE (Abstruse) The troll in Nosferatu seemed lik... Oct 9 2003, 12:28 PM Ed_209a The troll int penalty might be rationalized using ... Oct 9 2003, 02:50 PM Thanos007 Hate sound all PC and everything but I don't a... Oct 9 2003, 03:29 PM IcyCool QUOTE (Thanos007) Hate sound all PC and everything... Oct 9 2003, 03:59 PM phelious fogg Just a note, Trolls and Orks have the penalties to... Oct 9 2003, 04:11 PM Ed_209a Racism would be giving one particular metatype a n... Oct 9 2003, 04:20 PM phelious fogg Race: Uberaryan
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Racial Advantages: +2 ... Oct 9 2003, 04:25 PM Ed_209a Heh, nobody likes them, but they don't care be... Oct 9 2003, 04:38 PM Velocity QUOTE Thanos007 wrote:
Hate sound all PC and every... Oct 9 2003, 06:14 PM GunnerJ QUOTE Wow, thanks for posting this Thanos. I'v... Oct 9 2003, 06:57 PM Velocity QUOTE GunnerJ wrote:
how do definate differences i... Oct 9 2003, 07:44 PM Ed_209a Hmm. I like -1 Int, but perhaps -2 is a bit extrem... Oct 9 2003, 08:12 PM Cain QUOTE In Shadowrun, the Intelligence attribute cov... Oct 9 2003, 08:48 PM Velocity QUOTE Ed_209a wrote:
Lots of Trolls would have an ... Oct 9 2003, 08:50 PM Ed_209a QUOTE (Velocity) I think that reducing the penalty... Oct 9 2003, 09:37 PM Velocity What I'm suggesting only applies to the non-ph... Oct 9 2003, 09:40 PM MachineProphet The thing you aren't seeing, Velocity, is that... Oct 9 2003, 10:46 PM ialdabaoth QUOTE What they're saying is that Orks and Tro... Oct 9 2003, 10:57 PM GunnerJ QUOTE If they have legitimately lower Charisma and... Oct 10 2003, 03:43 AM Dr Komuso Personally, I've completely eliminated all men... Oct 10 2003, 04:58 AM Glyph Wow. You and Velocity must have great groups of p... Oct 10 2003, 06:27 AM The Jopp My concern is that one usually tend to equal low i... Oct 10 2003, 06:51 AM Dr Komuso Well, I should clarify things a bit, as Glyph... Oct 10 2003, 07:08 AM Fygg Nuuton its racist! how could it be racist against a ... Oct 10 2003, 07:21 AM Dr Komuso Because, frankly, when you sit down around the tab... Oct 10 2003, 02:39 PM Thanos007 It all depends on how you define intelligence. Int... Oct 10 2003, 02:47 PM Velocity QUOTE MachineProphet wrote:
The thing you aren... Oct 10 2003, 03:15 PM Velocity QUOTE Glyph wrote:
Wow. You and Velocity must have... Oct 10 2003, 03:32 PM Velocity QUOTE Thanos007 wrote:
Intelligence in the game an... Oct 10 2003, 04:41 PM Mephisto IMHO the game is designed about the assumption tha... Oct 10 2003, 05:40 PM Jari_Kafghan Stupid quotes.... Oct 10 2003, 06:23 PM Ed_209a You know, as long as they could run the register (... Oct 10 2003, 06:52 PM Dr Komuso Of course not all humans are of equal intelligence... Oct 10 2003, 06:53 PM Velocity QUOTE Mephisto wrote:
Even today not all humans ar... Oct 10 2003, 07:57 PM Dr Komuso QUOTE What Dr Komuso and I are saying is that by ... Oct 10 2003, 08:24 PM BigKnockers I don't understand how you can put so much dif... Oct 10 2003, 10:47 PM Sunday_Gamer You can't have this conversation in the contex... Oct 10 2003, 10:52 PM Tadite QUOTE (Glyph) By the way, back when they listed th... Oct 10 2003, 11:13 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE Upset about scientific data proving that Tro... Oct 10 2003, 11:24 PM thunderchild I personaly noticed this problem with trolls and o... Oct 11 2003, 02:51 AM Sunday_Gamer QUOTE (Kanada Ten)QUOTE Upset about scientific dat... Oct 11 2003, 05:35 AM Glyph If you are looking for house rule suggestions to b... Oct 11 2003, 06:55 AM Kagetenshi I have to say that even a race being "dumber... Oct 11 2003, 07:25 AM Drain Brain Kagenteshi - that's a really good point I hadn... Oct 11 2003, 08:41 AM Thanos007 QUOTE On science point blank agreeing with bigots.... Oct 11 2003, 04:44 PM Sunday_Gamer Well sorry, I just do not agree. They may have all... Oct 11 2003, 05:00 PM Velocity QUOTE BigKnockers wrote:
I don't understand ho... Oct 11 2003, 05:19 PM Velocity QUOTE Kanada Ten wrote:
Or change it if you feel i... Oct 11 2003, 05:30 PM Thanos007 QUOTE Well sorry, I just do not agree. They may ha... Oct 11 2003, 07:08 PM Raptor1033 don't things like deaths due to stillbirths an... Oct 11 2003, 07:37 PM Velocity QUOTE Raptor1033 wrote:
don't things like deat... Oct 12 2003, 03:29 AM Dr Komuso I'd just like to address the seemingly most po... Oct 12 2003, 05:24 AM Kagetenshi Being less intelligent!=being a mindless, viol... Oct 12 2003, 05:33 AM MYST1C QUOTE (Thanos007)Ummm. Yes. Yes they are. They can... Oct 12 2003, 03:51 PM Velocity QUOTE Kagetenshi wrote:
Being less intelligent... Oct 12 2003, 06:16 PM Drain Brain Nah... 'cause that's what it says in the B... Oct 12 2003, 06:22 PM Herald of Verjigorm QUOTE (Velocity) well, don't blanket attribute... Oct 12 2003, 06:33 PM Thanos007 QUOTE QUOTE (Thanos007)
Ummm. Yes. Yes they are. ... Oct 12 2003, 07:49 PM Velocity QUOTE Velocity wrote:
don't blanket attribute ... Oct 13 2003, 03:21 AM Kagetenshi And why do Dwarves get a blanket movement penalty?... Oct 13 2003, 03:34 AM Herald of Verjigorm QUOTE (Velocity) I'm actually curious: why do ... Oct 13 2003, 03:35 AM Glyph On the elf Charisma bonus: Charisma represents sel... Oct 13 2003, 04:51 AM Velocity QUOTE Kagetenshi wrote:
And why do Dwarves get a b... Oct 13 2003, 02:59 PM IcyCool QUOTE (Kagetenshi)That makes the racism angle even... Oct 13 2003, 04:01 PM Kagetenshi That's like saying no one likes the KKK. It se... Oct 13 2003, 04:09 PM IcyCool QUOTE (Kagetenshi) That's like saying no one l... Oct 13 2003, 04:21 PM Crusher Bob Of course, the KKK can do the same thing in retali... Oct 13 2003, 05:02 PM AnotherFreakBoy But LS would be all over the group that blew up a ... Oct 14 2003, 01:56 AM Lantzer Depends. The gang is probably full of SINless. T... Oct 14 2003, 04:10 PM Lantzer Depends. The gang is probably full of SINless. T... Oct 14 2003, 04:10 PM Tanka On the note of "Average Lifespan"
This ... Oct 14 2003, 04:42 PM Nova If one race can be stronger/faster/more magical et... Oct 14 2003, 04:49 PM Person 404 QUOTE (tanka) On the note of "Average Lifespa... Oct 14 2003, 07:49 PM Kagetenshi Actually, in nature, with a very few exceptions, t... Oct 14 2003, 07:57 PM Tanka I'm going between shorter humans and taller hu... Oct 15 2003, 01:39 AM Tanka Oh, and, as for Trolls being stupid as the stereot... Oct 15 2003, 03:27 AM
Glyph Andre the Giant is not a really good example to us... Oct 15 2003, 03:49 AM  |
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