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BlacKat
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Greetings,

I have aplayer that spends his whole time invis during a run. His character has a focus for the invis spell and just works at bringing it up before they start running and does not drop it unless they absolutly need to until after the run is over.

The question here involves melee combat. The character is based around being gods gift to the katana ( I know how original ;) ). So he uses the invis to attack undetected. My question is would the people he is attacking get the usual reflex + melee skill/dodge/unarmed combat in response to the attack or do they just have to sit there and take it? If they do get the responding rolls, what kind of modifyer should I use. Mind you by the time the character makes its first swing someone has already taken a shot or done something else to alert the victems that there are runners in the area. This is not a pure surprise situation, just a possible surprise from the invisible mage.

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- BlacKat   Invisible characters   Apr 22 2006, 02:55 PM
- - mintcar   Roll perception if the victim is allert. He may he...   Apr 22 2006, 03:08 PM
- - UndeadPoet   In SR3, negative visibility modifiers were divided...   Apr 22 2006, 03:14 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   Attacking an invisible target (or getting attacked...   Apr 22 2006, 03:26 PM
- - UndeadPoet   Drain would not be a problem, unless you use a chi...   Apr 22 2006, 03:42 PM
- - Butterblume   After the first victim, there will most likely be ...   Apr 22 2006, 03:55 PM
- - UndeadPoet   Right. In our group, we had a same situation with ...   Apr 22 2006, 04:12 PM
- - Dashifen   Smoke, sprinklers, mud, paint balls, etc. are all ...   Apr 22 2006, 04:26 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   There are many nice suggestions here, but why not ...   Apr 22 2006, 04:40 PM
- - hobgoblin   either give the defender a "blind fire" ...   Apr 22 2006, 05:06 PM
- - Aaron   According to the RAW, the defender get to defend u...   Apr 22 2006, 06:08 PM
- - Red   Many of the mentioned tactics for detecting invisi...   Apr 22 2006, 06:08 PM
- - hyzmarca   The invisibility spell has always worked like a vi...   Apr 22 2006, 07:45 PM
- - Rooks   did the guy even roll to sneak up on someone? if n...   Apr 22 2006, 09:07 PM
- - hobgoblin   if its a gun battle in the same room. im not sure ...   Apr 22 2006, 10:20 PM
- - BlackHat   QUOTE (BlacKat) Greetings, [...] Lol, off-topi...   Apr 23 2006, 04:12 PM
- - BlacKat   Thanks for all the responses. Right now we are go...   Apr 25 2006, 07:57 PM
- - Edward   Bering in mind the invisibility spell is resisted,...   Apr 26 2006, 02:45 AM
- - CONAN9845   Do you mean to tell me that there are people who t...   Apr 26 2006, 05:28 AM
- - Edward   Dose the SR4 invisibility spell describe what happ...   Apr 26 2006, 06:26 AM
- - CONAN9845   Please keep in mind that everything that I post is...   Apr 26 2006, 07:00 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (CONAN9845) Picking something up may cause y...   Apr 26 2006, 07:03 AM
- - CONAN9845   To me, that's the same thing.   Apr 26 2006, 07:09 AM
- - Dranem   If your player is using invisibilty waaay too much...   Apr 26 2006, 07:21 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (CONAN9845) To me, that's the same thing...   Apr 26 2006, 07:26 AM
- - CONAN9845   QUOTE (James McMurray)QUOTE (CONAN9845 @ Apr ...   Apr 26 2006, 07:29 AM
- - hobgoblin   another way to look at the problem of a invisible ...   Apr 26 2006, 09:25 AM
- - Aku   conan, with the smoke screen, you're not seein...   Apr 26 2006, 01:56 PM
- - Edward   The smoke field doesn’t require you to perseve the...   Apr 26 2006, 03:48 PM
- - CONAN9845   Edward and Aku, I disagree. Seeing someone due to...   Apr 27 2006, 01:24 AM
- - Aku   ahhh, opinions, we all got one, dont we? but thin...   Apr 27 2006, 02:36 AM
- - James McMurray   He isn't sayign anything about altering physic...   Apr 27 2006, 02:48 AM
- - CONAN9845   That's pretty much the interpretation that we ...   Apr 27 2006, 03:05 AM
- - Aku   well, then, imo he's changing the very, ahem, ...   Apr 27 2006, 03:07 AM
- - James McMurray   It sounds to me like their group has found a decen...   Apr 27 2006, 03:22 AM
- - Big D   Makes sense to me, after all, it's in illusion...   Apr 27 2006, 03:27 AM
- - CONAN9845   If the viewer didn't resist the spell, then no...   Apr 27 2006, 03:30 AM
- - CONAN9845   BigD, you can't say that it's not bending ...   Apr 27 2006, 03:33 AM
- - Glyph   That's the screwy thing about improved invisib...   Apr 27 2006, 04:19 AM
- - Edward   Conan, buy your interpretation what would an obser...   Apr 27 2006, 06:24 AM
- - CONAN9845   If the spell is successfully resisted by someone, ...   Apr 27 2006, 06:53 AM
- - Edward   [qupte=conan] The viewer would see quicksand and r...   Apr 27 2006, 01:42 PM
- - Aaron   QUOTE (Edward) How about this situation, somebody ...   Apr 27 2006, 04:47 PM
- - Shrike30   I interpret the whole "bending light" th...   Apr 27 2006, 06:23 PM
- - GrinderTheTroll   QUOTE (BlacKat) Thanks for all the responses. Rig...   Apr 27 2006, 06:56 PM
- - Shrike30   Other things that work against invisibility are ph...   Apr 27 2006, 11:23 PM
- - Kanada Ten   If your group says it "bends light" then...   Apr 27 2006, 11:32 PM
- - Shrike30   It doesn't make the character undetectable, it...   Apr 27 2006, 11:44 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Then I guess a good RF scanner could pick them up,...   Apr 28 2006, 12:00 AM
- - Galmorez   Most security are trained to understand they may f...   Apr 28 2006, 12:14 AM
- - Edward   The biggest problem with a bending light descripti...   Apr 28 2006, 12:42 AM
- - hobgoblin   my take on the whole invisibility bit is that when...   Apr 28 2006, 12:52 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Apr 27 2006, 07:52 PM) a a...   Apr 28 2006, 12:59 AM
- - hobgoblin   the spell would remove the image of the person, bu...   Apr 28 2006, 01:26 AM
- - James McMurray   We've always just had it keep you from being s...   Apr 28 2006, 01:51 AM
- - CONAN9845   Edward, if your mage can “sneak in and steal” anyt...   Apr 28 2006, 04:38 AM
- - dcpirahna   QUOTE (Edward) The biggest problem with a bending ...   Apr 28 2006, 02:51 PM
- - James McMurray   And be sure to "surround" many common ...   Apr 28 2006, 03:06 PM
- - shadowbod   The following info might help people and has been ...   Apr 28 2006, 04:39 PM
- - CradleWorm   I'd like to point out a few things that I thin...   May 25 2006, 10:03 PM
- - Aaron   Hm. I guess I'm interpreting "Anyone who ...   May 25 2006, 10:18 PM
- - Shrike30   Improved Invisibility is, by the description in th...   May 25 2006, 11:38 PM
- - ryanstone   Don't forget that invisible characters would b...   May 30 2006, 11:00 PM
- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (ryanstone) Don't forget that invisible ...   May 30 2006, 11:05 PM
- - Demon_Bob   Taking Down an Invisible Character? Mage with air...   Jun 5 2006, 03:47 AM
- - Tarantula   Just having been reading the other invis threads a...   Jun 5 2006, 10:37 AM
- - Cang   What i told my players is that when they cast the ...   Jun 5 2006, 01:05 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...Letsee Paintball guns Dye Grenades (UV o...   Jun 5 2006, 04:49 PM


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