 Where do you draw the rape line?, magical manipulation |
 May 22 2006, 09:27 AM
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For the purpose of this discussion I'm defining rape as unwanted sexual penetration. Hopefully, most can agree it is a bad thing when this occurs. I'm wondering how far things can be manipulated before it is not a bad thing.
Like date rape, or chemically assisted by a date rape drug, or in SR by cyberware/bioware and/or magic. What if the person has cultured, tailored pheramones,skillwires and chipjack expert driver running a high rating Seduction skillsoft and a complimentary knowsoft? Without the enhancements the subject is unlikely to penetrate any willing target. How about possession? Clearly bad? How about Control Actions, Control Thoughts, and/or Influence? Control Emotions? What about an Increase Charisma spell? I'm asking because I am thinking of designing a character who was a geek (I guess he still would be) growing up and utilized some of the possibilities available in the SR future. At the same time, I would rather have him come across as pathetic instead of creepy. |
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Member #5177 Where do you draw the rape line? May 22 2006, 09:27 AM
Arethusa Nonconsentual sexual interaction. Penetration as ... May 22 2006, 09:47 AM ShadowDragon8685 I think of it this way.
It's not rape if it a... May 22 2006, 09:59 AM hyzmarca Tailored pheremones in this case act as an aphrodi... May 22 2006, 11:42 AM Kagetenshi Control Actions would clearly be rape. With Contro... May 22 2006, 01:48 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Control Actions would clearly b... May 22 2006, 02:04 PM DeadNeon QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Unless you've got a thing f... May 22 2006, 03:46 PM Toptomcat QUOTE (hyzmarca) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 22 2... May 22 2006, 04:18 PM stevebugge Slightly tangental but in these instances would th... May 22 2006, 05:05 PM Kagetenshi Not in the UCAS—all Mindprobe-obtained evidence is... May 22 2006, 05:10 PM James McMurray In canon it isn't allowed. I allow it in my ga... May 22 2006, 06:27 PM mfb the definitions likely vary wildly from jurisdicti... May 22 2006, 06:27 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (James McMurray) In canon it isn't allow... May 22 2006, 06:32 PM James McMurray True, which is why you make damn sure your people ... May 22 2006, 06:40 PM stevebugge I could really see the Star coercing people to all... May 22 2006, 06:52 PM Nasrudith My opinion the Raise charimsa is Charisma it proba... May 22 2006, 08:35 PM hyzmarca The thing about illegally obtained evidence is tha... May 22 2006, 08:45 PM stevebugge QUOTE (hyzmarca) The ting about illegally obtained... May 22 2006, 09:05 PM Member #5177 At sunset, a SR4 troll shaman with Charisma 2 conj... May 22 2006, 10:45 PM James McMurray That shaman could have a charisma of 5, since char... May 22 2006, 11:05 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (hyzmarca)
The two popular "date rape... May 22 2006, 11:07 PM James McMurray If you take enough to make yourself a viable date ... May 22 2006, 11:11 PM Kanada Ten QUOTE In today's laws reverse leonizations for... May 22 2006, 11:23 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (James McMurray) If you take enough to make ... May 22 2006, 11:24 PM Kanada Ten Because one of those scenarios has the ability to ... May 22 2006, 11:26 PM hyzmarca Whkipenia has some information on GHB and Rohypnol... May 22 2006, 11:31 PM James McMurray That and the human mind often has an aversion to v... May 22 2006, 11:33 PM James McMurray QUOTE (hyzmarca) I seriously doubt the claim that ... May 22 2006, 11:34 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Kanada Ten) Because one of those scenarios ... May 22 2006, 11:38 PM Kanada Ten I'm thinking more of the blunt trauma to the h... May 22 2006, 11:42 PM nick012000 Which is why I remember seeing on TV that the usua... May 22 2006, 11:43 PM James McMurray It all comes down to timing. You wouldn't try ... May 22 2006, 11:45 PM James McMurray Damn you for posting as I'm typing!!... May 22 2006, 11:45 PM mfb QUOTE (Wounded Ronin)In other words, I don't e... May 22 2006, 11:55 PM Wounded Ronin Good points. I guess that using those strategies ... May 23 2006, 12:27 AM James McMurray You'd notice it even if the drink left on the ... May 23 2006, 12:36 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (James McMurray @ May 22 2006, 07:36 PM... May 23 2006, 02:46 AM Arethusa You've never woken up with a hangover? Most p... May 23 2006, 02:58 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Arethusa) You've never woken up with a ... May 23 2006, 03:07 AM Arethusa I've woken up from surgery as well, and the ef... May 23 2006, 03:11 AM James McMurray QUOTE Um, yeah. Drinks at a bar are expensiv... May 23 2006, 03:27 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (James McMurray)
I'm not sure if I... May 23 2006, 03:47 AM James McMurray We were really poor when I was growing up too, but... May 23 2006, 05:43 AM Member #5177 QUOTE (James McMurray) That shaman could have a ch... May 23 2006, 06:53 AM James McMurray Huh? The shaman using spells to enhance his abilit... May 23 2006, 07:00 AM mfb it really depends on the jurisdiction. in conserva... May 23 2006, 07:23 AM James McMurray So then what differentiates "scummy" fro... May 23 2006, 07:30 AM mfb it doesn't hurt anybody who doesn't basica... May 23 2006, 07:46 AM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (James McMurray) I would doubt any claim abo... May 23 2006, 03:21 PM mfb yeah, it ruins the effect. May 23 2006, 05:05 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (James McMurray) We were really poor when I ... May 23 2006, 09:15 PM Snow_Fox God we have got to get more women posting here if ... May 23 2006, 11:06 PM Wounded Ronin Dosen't take away free will? That's what ... May 24 2006, 01:17 AM James McMurray Even when it's Peter Griffin from The Family G... May 24 2006, 01:28 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (James McMurray) Even when it's Peter Gr... May 24 2006, 01:30 AM Glyph Well, within SR's messed-up rules for using so... May 24 2006, 02:52 AM nezumi QUOTE (Glyph) Well, within SR's messed-up rule... May 24 2006, 04:09 PM Kagetenshi Hardly. If humans have free will then anything tha... May 24 2006, 04:13 PM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (nezumi) One could also argue that humans in... May 24 2006, 05:22 PM nezumi QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) QUOTE (nezumi @ May 24 2006... May 24 2006, 06:17 PM Wounded Ronin I thought about this last night. Showing female b... May 24 2006, 09:26 PM mfb oh, get real. bared breasts are clearly a save vs ... May 24 2006, 09:49 PM Toptomcat Is there anything Dumpshockers won't make corn... May 24 2006, 10:19 PM Shrike30 We haven't found anything, yet. May 24 2006, 10:21 PM
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