 Give the sammies a little love..., where do they shine? |
 Jun 16 2006, 07:52 PM
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As a GM, I want every player in the game to feel like their PC's made an important contribution. My problem is that, while there's lots of threats that only mages can handle, I haven't really found many scenarios that can only be fixed by the street sam.
What situations can anybody think of that require the sam's skills/abilities, but not the mage's? |
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Apathy Give the sammies a little love... Jun 16 2006, 07:52 PM
BishopMcQ I think Sams start to shine when the lead fills th... Jun 16 2006, 08:00 PM Butterblume Hm, a firefight against a clever OpForce, or when ... Jun 16 2006, 08:04 PM Shrike30 If they run up against a F10 spirit, they've g... Jun 16 2006, 08:06 PM Apathy QUOTE (Butterblume) Hm, a firefight against a clev... Jun 16 2006, 08:27 PM Nim Hmm. Well, let's see.
* A gun-bunny can go th... Jun 16 2006, 08:41 PM Nim Oh. Another minor case: a street sam (with a grena... Jun 16 2006, 08:43 PM Butterblume So can a mage, if he knows an appropriate spell an... Jun 16 2006, 08:47 PM Lagomorph Our street sam dodged in the open covered only by ... Jun 16 2006, 09:38 PM Jaid they are also quite handy for niche skills.
like ... Jun 16 2006, 09:42 PM Tiger Eyes Mages and hackers have to dump a lot of buildpoint... Jun 16 2006, 10:11 PM ShadowDragon8685 Your typical Sammie won't have it either, or i... Jun 16 2006, 10:16 PM Teulisch the job of the mage, first and foremost, is counte... Jun 16 2006, 10:21 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Your typical Sammie won... Jun 16 2006, 10:42 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist) QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 ... Jun 16 2006, 10:48 PM Shrike30 Most of the physad gunbunnies I see get contact sm... Jun 16 2006, 11:04 PM nezumi Something else to consider, you can always introdu... Jun 16 2006, 11:13 PM Nim QUOTE (nezumi) Alternatively, consider making an o... Jun 17 2006, 02:17 AM Dudukain I'd rather have a street samurai with wired re... Jun 17 2006, 02:39 AM Cain Generally speaking, a well-built sam can front-loa... Jun 17 2006, 03:54 AM Jaid QUOTE (Cain) Generally speaking, a well-built sam ... Jun 17 2006, 04:27 AM DrowVampyre Actually, the sammie can be the ultimate generalis... Jun 17 2006, 04:49 AM Glyph One thing that hasn't changed is that the samm... Jun 17 2006, 04:54 AM Teulisch hard cap for unaugmented human: 16 dice (ability 7... Jun 17 2006, 05:23 AM DrowVampyre Add 1 to the sammie's hard cap - they can grab... Jun 17 2006, 09:10 AM Glyph I think that's why he had 7(8 ). But reflex r... Jun 17 2006, 09:57 AM Cain QUOTE (DrowVampyre) Actually, the sammie can be th... Jun 18 2006, 08:14 AM ornot I thought skillsofts capped at 4 Jun 18 2006, 03:25 PM knasser QUOTE (ornot) I thought skillsofts capped at 4
... Jun 18 2006, 04:28 PM Clyde The Sammie shines when the lead is flying.
High R... Jun 18 2006, 04:32 PM Nim QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (ornot @ Jun 18 2006, 1... Jun 18 2006, 04:36 PM Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Glyph) A sammie can equal an adept in logic... Jun 18 2006, 10:50 PM ornot I'd consider cerebral boosters to be augmentin... Jun 18 2006, 11:20 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Eyeless Blond) Are Cerebral Boosters counte... Jun 18 2006, 11:28 PM Dudukain The weird part is, when you get down to it, street... Jun 19 2006, 06:58 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Dudukain) The weird part is, when you get d... Jun 19 2006, 07:08 PM Lilt QUOTE (Dudukain)I'd rather have a street samur... Jun 20 2006, 12:30 AM Lilt QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Jun 16 2006, 10:11 PM) Ma... Jun 20 2006, 12:41 AM ornot I'd say the problem mages face is the heavy ka... Jun 20 2006, 01:20 AM Cain QUOTE @Cain: That's kindof true. The thing tha... Jun 20 2006, 06:36 AM Lilt QUOTE (Cain)Well, even then, you get mages who spe... Jun 20 2006, 02:54 PM James McMurray QUOTE Really any character with skillwires can cov... Jun 20 2006, 03:02 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Lilt) QUOTE (Cain)Well, even then, you get ... Jun 20 2006, 03:09 PM James McMurray "A" is true, but to varying degrees depe... Jun 20 2006, 03:11 PM Grinder QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE Really any character ... Jun 20 2006, 03:14 PM James McMurray Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it isn... Jun 20 2006, 03:19 PM Grinder Agreed
But always better to have a sammie with ... Jun 20 2006, 04:16 PM James McMurray Not when the skill is "Naked Overweight Danci... Jun 20 2006, 04:19 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (James McMurray) Not when the skill is ... Jun 20 2006, 04:32 PM James McMurray Then you'll probably want to avoid the overwei... Jun 20 2006, 04:39 PM Apathy Okay, the general feedback I've gotten seems t... Jun 20 2006, 05:41 PM K2Grey Regeneration doesn't work against central nerv... Jun 20 2006, 06:48 PM Lilt QUOTE (James McMurray)QUOTE Really any character w... Jun 20 2006, 07:08 PM Cain QUOTE Yes and no... Mages can initiate and take me... Jun 20 2006, 07:13 PM James McMurray QUOTE (Lilt) If the mage summons a spirit to do it... Jun 20 2006, 07:17 PM Nim QUOTE (James McMurray)
I know it's just a hou... Jun 20 2006, 07:25 PM Nim Hmm. Another option, actually, would be to allow a... Jun 20 2006, 07:30 PM Apathy QUOTE (K2Grey) Regeneration doesn't work again... Jun 20 2006, 07:39 PM James McMurray Nim: that's a good rule. I think if it comes u... Jun 20 2006, 07:52 PM James McMurray QUOTE (Apathy) Say I've got a goon in 8/6 armo... Jun 20 2006, 08:05 PM Nim QUOTE (James McMurray) Nim: that's a good rule... Jun 20 2006, 08:06 PM Apathy QUOTE (James McMurray) In that case your called sh... Jun 20 2006, 08:49 PM James McMurray I don't see a big problem with bypassign armor... Jun 20 2006, 08:53 PM Shrike30 Actually, I don't have much of a problem with ... Jun 20 2006, 09:48 PM James McMurray I'm not talking about bypassing hardened armor... Jun 20 2006, 10:28 PM Lilt QUOTE (Apathy @ Jun 20 2006, 05:41 PM) Okay, ... Jun 20 2006, 10:46 PM Cain QUOTE (James McMurray) I'm not talking about b... Jun 21 2006, 02:28 AM James McMurray Reread the example. Jun 21 2006, 02:30 AM Apathy As far as calling shots to bypass armor on vehicle... Jun 21 2006, 03:10 PM Lilt QUOTE (Apathy) (to Lilt):
I agree with your statem... Jun 21 2006, 04:30 PM phelious fogg The easiest thing to do would to say cyberlimbs st... Jun 21 2006, 05:05 PM Shrike30 The houserule I use is that cyberlimbs have stats ... Jun 21 2006, 05:36 PM Cain QUOTE (James McMurray) Reread the example.
I d... Jun 21 2006, 08:53 PM James McMurray I never said "you can't call a shot to th... Jun 21 2006, 08:59 PM Shrike30 QUOTE (James McMurray) I'm not talking about b... Jun 21 2006, 10:21 PM James McMurray I agree, but per the most rules lawyery interpreta... Jun 21 2006, 10:55 PM Shrike30 Heh... to be honest, I think the "target an a... Jun 21 2006, 11:54 PM 2bit I'm gonna nod in agreement with cyberlimb mods... Jun 22 2006, 12:00 AM James McMurray On the original topic: my group has a mage, a rigg... Jun 22 2006, 12:59 AM Lilt QUOTE (James McMurray)On the original topic: my gr... Jun 22 2006, 03:39 PM Shadowmeet QUOTE (Lilt) QUOTE (James McMurray)On the original... Jun 22 2006, 03:52 PM Grinder In my campaigns and one-shot-games we never had th... Jun 22 2006, 04:02 PM Lilt QUOTE (Shadowmeet) Actually, it does mean somethin... Jun 22 2006, 04:52 PM James McMurray You're right about one instance not meaning mu... Jun 22 2006, 05:03 PM Nim QUOTE (Grinder) In my campaigns and one-shot-games... Jun 22 2006, 05:19 PM Lilt QUOTE (James McMurray) I will say that both the sa... Jun 22 2006, 05:20 PM James McMurray Not necessarily. If you want to be truly versatile... Jun 22 2006, 05:21 PM Nim QUOTE (James McMurray) Not necessarily. If you wan... Jun 22 2006, 05:26 PM James McMurray QUOTE It's all fair to say that he's run b... Jun 22 2006, 05:26 PM Lilt I believe this falls into the category I suggested... Jun 22 2006, 07:15 PM James McMurray QUOTE No, because the imbalances still exist. Lets... Jun 22 2006, 07:28 PM Nim QUOTE (James McMurray)
Obviously they do, or ther... Jun 22 2006, 07:31 PM James McMurray No top ten list, but just from what I can think of... Jun 22 2006, 07:45 PM Nim Looks like a good list. Probably worth bookmarking Jun 22 2006, 07:51 PM Shadowmeet QUOTE (James McMurray) No top ten list, but just f... Jun 22 2006, 07:56 PM James McMurray One thing I've mentioned in the past about inv... Jun 22 2006, 08:05 PM Nim The door doesn't even have to be alarmed...jus... Jun 22 2006, 08:18 PM Shrike30 You don't even have to be that secure of a fac... Jun 22 2006, 08:26 PM James McMurray The facility I work in uses badges for all personn... Jun 22 2006, 08:28 PM
Nim Hmm. Yeah. I was thinking of secure areas only bec... Jun 22 2006, 08:29 PM  |
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