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> just noticed something about spell casting...., Did you all notice it also?
WorkOver
post Jul 3 2006, 04:44 AM
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Ok, I hear a lot how damaging magic is. I also hear how magic users are harder to make, I hear a variety of things, here is somethig subtle I saw:

Ok, this is the way I read(past tense) it, as well as every group I have played with plays it, mostly because of the previous editions.

Mage wants to geek Sam with a mana bolt.

Mage rolls his magic of 5, plus his spell casting of 5, for 10 dice. Say its a measly power of 5.

mage rolls 3 net hits, for 8 points of damage.

Most say its unfair as the sam now rolls his willpower, with no armour, and can at best reduce damage by 4 boxes.

The mage then rolls his willpower plus his logic. Making the mage come out on top.


Ok: Turn to page 195. This is all wrong. Sams do have a chance, and sams with counter spell dice have a very good chance against a mage.

mage rolls his dice, Sam rolls his will power plus his counter spell dice if he has any. If the Sam ties or wins, the spell does no damage at all.

The caster needs at least one net success to do any damage at all!

I had totally missed this, having played since 1990, and the caster only having to get one net success, and targets getting only a damage soak roll.

this new way, the target gets to counter the spell (a psychic dodge?), then he gets a soak roll.

How many of you made this simple mistake?

This really makes a huge difference.
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- WorkOver   just noticed something about spell casting....   Jul 3 2006, 04:44 AM
- - Glyph   Not quite. They do compare successes, and the tar...   Jul 3 2006, 05:40 AM
- - James McMurray   Also note that the force of a spell limits your hi...   Jul 3 2006, 01:31 PM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (WorkOver @ Jul 2 2006, 11:44 PM) sams ...   Jul 3 2006, 02:43 PM
- - CradleWorm   Let me summarize... Mage casts a Manabolt 4 at a ...   Jul 3 2006, 03:40 PM
- - hobgoblin   gives elemental spells a reason to exist, this...   Jul 3 2006, 03:43 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (hobgoblin) gives elemental spells a reason ...   Jul 3 2006, 03:46 PM
- - Aaron   QUOTE (James McMurray) The elemental spells are go...   Jul 3 2006, 04:00 PM
- - Abbandon   Can we continue that example a little more. mana ...   Jul 3 2006, 05:45 PM
- - Geekkake   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Jul 3 2006, 12:45 PM) Can w...   Jul 3 2006, 05:48 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Geekkake) Net hits of a spell are limited b...   Jul 3 2006, 05:54 PM
- - Geekkake   QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (Geekkake @ Jul ...   Jul 3 2006, 05:58 PM
- - Eugene   I'm not sure I get why people complain about t...   Jul 5 2006, 09:43 PM
- - James McMurray   Without actually saying whether I think it's b...   Jul 5 2006, 09:45 PM
- - hobgoblin   allso, if there is something that get a rpg'er...   Jul 5 2006, 09:48 PM
- - Eugene   QUOTE (James McMurray) Without actually saying whe...   Jul 5 2006, 09:54 PM
- - James McMurray   It was there. It hasn't happened as much in re...   Jul 5 2006, 09:56 PM
- - WorkOver   QUOTE (Geekkake @ Jul 3 2006, 12:48 PM) QUOTE...   Jul 5 2006, 10:14 PM
- - James McMurray   That's what geekkake said.   Jul 5 2006, 10:16 PM
- - booklord   Here's a question for you.... Can you dodge a...   Jul 5 2006, 10:56 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (booklord) Here's a question for you.......   Jul 5 2006, 11:12 PM
- - James McMurray   A 4m radius fireball spell doesn't necessarily...   Jul 5 2006, 11:52 PM
- - ornot   A victim of an elemental attack does have a chance...   Jul 6 2006, 12:43 AM
- - hobgoblin   i think previous editions had elemental area effec...   Jul 6 2006, 12:44 AM
- - ornot   I was thinking about Elemental combat spells the o...   Jul 6 2006, 12:50 AM
- - James McMurray   The general consensus is that the elemental effect...   Jul 6 2006, 12:56 AM
- - booklord   QUOTE i think previous editions had elemental area...   Jul 6 2006, 01:03 AM
- - Nikoli   Maybe elemental spells get a dodge test because th...   Jul 6 2006, 01:11 AM
- - ornot   That, Booklord, was precisely the problem I was ha...   Jul 6 2006, 01:17 AM
- - Xenith   Theres a dodge dice pool penalty for dodging area ...   Jul 6 2006, 01:22 AM
- - Nikoli   Thought the area attack weapons was for things lik...   Jul 6 2006, 01:40 AM
- - CradleWorm   QUOTE (Nikoli) Thought the area attack weapons was...   Jul 6 2006, 02:28 AM


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