 Not getting caught, a post about suspension of disbelief |
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-Splitting from the "Exoware" thread-
This is a good question. I've thought about it a few months ago, and really it appears that the only right way of shadowrunning is to do it remotely. Since SR4, security and tracking are just overwhelming. A couple of guys can't walk nowhere without being tagged, scanned, photographed ten times a second. Them being able to sneakily act and then vanish in the city isn't really believable when you consider the ubiquity of the wireless matrix, agents, drones, RFID sensors, and watcher spirits. :eek: I came to the conclusion that a shadowrunner serious about his business and caring about not going to jail should never, ever be physically in the vicinity of it's target. He should only use remote action (hacking, drones, spirits, astral projection, bribes, whatever), and make sure to carefully clear data/astral/money trail as he goes. Even then he is at great risk of being dicovered. But then, I realize that Shadowrun isn't supposed to be a game about crime investigation evasion, it's more of a game about "Bruce-Willis-in-Die-Hard-ism". Nevertheless, I'd apreciate that some players give a little more thought about not getting caught, and twist their characters into clever professionals instead of gung-ho punks, and then relying on the GM for making antagonist corporations oversighting obvious clues and giving Lone Star investigators the IQ of an oyster. :please: A PC shadowrunner that could realistically do his job and stay alive for more than a few weeks, that'd be a refreshing change. ;) |
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irinoxx Not getting caught Jul 13 2006, 10:01 AM
WhiskeyMac Key points against remote jobs: WI-FI retardant pa... Jul 13 2006, 10:22 AM irinoxx QUOTE (WhiskeyMac @ Jul 13 2006, 05:22 AM) Ke... Jul 13 2006, 11:37 AM ornot I agree that with the many potential data trails h... Jul 13 2006, 01:21 PM Aaron It is true that the scene of a (recent) shadowrun ... Jul 13 2006, 05:39 PM irinoxx Insightful, Aaron. Thanks. Jul 13 2006, 06:48 PM Derek QUOTE
It's in the way 2070 is set up. Most ... Jul 13 2006, 08:55 PM CradleWorm I have a couple of comments here. We can't rea... Jul 13 2006, 09:43 PM sorcel QUOTE (Aaron) It is true, however, that a shadowru... Jul 13 2006, 09:56 PM Jagdcarcajou Heya,
Good thoughts on this thread so far. I agr... Jul 13 2006, 10:10 PM Aaron QUOTE (Derek)Sure they can. With a bit of DN... Jul 13 2006, 11:01 PM Cheops It doesn't cost a corporation millions of doll... Jul 14 2006, 03:05 AM Clyde Another thing to recall is that these security sys... Jul 14 2006, 03:42 AM underaneonhalo Good points on both sides, I've always ran it ... Jul 14 2006, 05:05 AM Vaevictis At the risk of repeating what has already been sai... Jul 14 2006, 06:41 AM ornot I'd like to comment on the camera footage poin... Jul 14 2006, 11:00 AM Aaron Vaevictis's post reminded me of another thing ... Jul 14 2006, 07:39 PM Lilt Hmm... If you are caught on camera all the way fro... Jul 14 2006, 09:10 PM Cheops I think that just about any run that involves stea... Jul 14 2006, 09:30 PM Geekkake QUOTE (Cheops) I think that just about any run tha... Jul 14 2006, 10:29 PM Lilt QUOTE (Geekkake @ Jul 14 2006, 10:29 PM) Thin... Jul 15 2006, 12:52 PM Abbandon I think they have injected to much reality into it... Jul 15 2006, 04:21 PM HappyDaze QUOTE The thing is that runners know things. Runne... Jul 16 2006, 02:50 AM HappyDaze It might be possible for corps to abduct a faceles... Jul 17 2006, 01:25 AM Samaels Ghost Redshirts? Jul 17 2006, 02:37 AM James McMurray Tons of episodes of the original Star Trek had tea... Jul 17 2006, 02:44 AM Samaels Ghost Oh yeah! I should have known that. hehe Jul 17 2006, 02:56 AM Shrike30 EDIT: whoops, 2 pages, not just 1. Jul 17 2006, 06:15 PM Apathy Just a couple thoughts about forensic evidence: Fi... Jul 17 2006, 06:56 PM Emrak I'll second the "organizations don't ... Jul 17 2006, 08:00 PM Smokeskin Use (and invent) countermeasures for all these att... Aug 1 2006, 09:22 AM Witness Idea for new bioware:
GeneFlux skin. Epithelial c... Aug 1 2006, 10:28 AM Slump Another rather nasty thing to do is to get in cont... Aug 1 2006, 12:29 PM Grinder Why not use a cyberhand? It would hardly leave fin... Aug 1 2006, 12:30 PM Teux I've always felt that fingerprint evidence wou... Aug 1 2006, 12:37 PM Witness Current DNA fingerprinting works with a pallette o... Aug 1 2006, 12:59 PM Charon Some good ideas here.
I might have a street docto... Aug 1 2006, 01:11 PM Witness Yeah. 'Ghost package'. I like that a lot... Aug 1 2006, 01:21 PM Samaels Ghost How much would a complete database wipe run for?
... Aug 1 2006, 05:38 PM Moon-Hawk Well, the SINner flaw is worth 5 BP. That's w... Aug 1 2006, 05:45 PM Samaels Ghost That's pretty good! why not.... Aug 1 2006, 05:47 PM Moon-Hawk Of course, double the cost if you're trying to... Aug 1 2006, 05:48 PM Samaels Ghost What exactly is entailed in a Criminal SIN? My run... Aug 1 2006, 05:54 PM Smokeskin I don't like the gene options. The geneflux al... Aug 1 2006, 09:42 PM Witness I disagree. Players will still plan and prepare- b... Aug 2 2006, 08:38 AM Smokeskin I guess it depends on what sort of campaign you wa... Aug 2 2006, 10:42 AM Witness Well you don't have to make the geneflux stuff... Aug 2 2006, 11:03 AM Charon 1 - As far as realism goes, it shouldn't be a ... Aug 2 2006, 01:26 PM Cardul While you guys look at the evidence...I think abou... Aug 2 2006, 02:41 PM Witness QUOTE (Cardul)1) When all is said and done, all th... Aug 2 2006, 02:53 PM Smokeskin It's not necessarily about immediate capture -... Aug 2 2006, 03:09 PM Smokeskin QUOTE (Witness)I don't know if you've noti... Aug 2 2006, 03:27 PM nezumi QUOTE (Smokeskin) Also, Lone Star doesn't cost... Aug 2 2006, 04:00 PM Smokeskin QUOTE (nezumi) You clearly don't run Lone Star... Aug 2 2006, 04:21 PM zeb.hillard QUOTE (Smokeskin) QUOTE
You have Lone Star cost c... Aug 2 2006, 04:29 PM nezumi QUOTE (Smokeskin) QUOTE (nezumi @ Aug 2 2006,... Aug 2 2006, 09:09 PM Smokeskin We're pretty much agreed here - Lone Star is a... Aug 2 2006, 09:34 PM Charon I'm with nezumi on this.
I usually run Lone S... Aug 2 2006, 09:41 PM kigmatzomat One thing runners should avoid is repeat hits on t... Aug 2 2006, 10:19 PM Adarael For the next time I run a SR game that's ... Aug 2 2006, 10:38 PM Witness You might not leak blood, but I doubt you'd st... Aug 2 2006, 10:45 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (Witness @ Aug 2 2006, 09:53 AM) QUOTE ... Aug 2 2006, 10:59 PM James McMurray Not their problem, or did you miss the "This ... Aug 2 2006, 11:47 PM zeb.hillard QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Aug 2 2006, 05:59 PM)And th... Aug 2 2006, 11:57 PM Cardul QUOTE (Witness)
I don't know if you've no... Aug 3 2006, 12:24 AM Witness QUOTE (Cardul @ Aug 2 2006, 07:24 PM) Also, A... Aug 3 2006, 08:29 AM Charon QUOTE (Witness)The runners who got away would know... Aug 3 2006, 01:28 PM nezumi Also look at computer security. It's speculat... Aug 3 2006, 03:05 PM Smokeskin Data theft are reported a lot more often than not ... Aug 3 2006, 04:43 PM Witness Obviously at some point somebody in the corp decid... Aug 3 2006, 06:51 PM Moon-Hawk Oh sure, the runners will be persued while they st... Aug 3 2006, 06:58 PM nezumi QUOTE (Smokeskin)Data theft are reported a lot mor... Aug 3 2006, 07:05 PM Smokeskin Obviously (and surprisingly) US businesses feel di... Aug 3 2006, 07:58 PM nezumi Most "professional investors" aren't... Aug 3 2006, 08:13 PM Shrike30 QUOTE (Adarael) Before every run, have your friend... Aug 3 2006, 09:10 PM Charon QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 3 2006, 02:58 PM) Reme... Aug 3 2006, 09:13 PM Adarael QUOTE (Shrike30) QUOTE (Adarael @ Aug 2 2006,... Aug 3 2006, 10:06 PM Brahm QUOTE (Shrike30) QUOTE (Adarael @ Aug 2 2006,... Aug 3 2006, 10:10 PM Smokeskin QUOTE (Charon @ Aug 3 2006, 11:13 PM) Enron w... Aug 4 2006, 07:46 AM Witness QUOTE (Adarael @ Aug 3 2006, 05:06 PM) QUOTE ... Aug 4 2006, 09:35 AM ornot While red blood cells do bind to the fibrinogin ma... Aug 4 2006, 11:47 AM Charon QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 4 2006, 02:46 AM) You... Aug 4 2006, 01:11 PM Smokeskin What Enron did was very specifically not something... Aug 4 2006, 02:21 PM Charon QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 4 2006, 09:21 AM) What... Aug 4 2006, 02:31 PM nezumi QUOTE (Smokeskin)What Enron did was very specifica... Aug 4 2006, 03:39 PM Ravor I'm fairly sure that I've seen this point ... Aug 5 2006, 05:26 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (Witness @ Aug 4 2006, 04:35 AM) QUOTE ... Aug 7 2006, 11:09 AM Witness Chimeras are seriously rare, and often quite diffi... Aug 7 2006, 11:23 AM
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