 Is magic broken? |
 Sep 6 2006, 03:23 PM
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Is magic broken? As it is, spirits will wipe out anything without Manabolt, and magic can duplicate almost anything anyone else can do.
Then again, it is a huge karma sink. |
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emo samurai Is magic broken? Sep 6 2006, 03:23 PM
Critias I'm curious as to why the two people who'v... Sep 6 2006, 03:30 PM 2bit Some specific things are broken, but don't thr... Sep 6 2006, 03:36 PM emo samurai A more pertinent question would be "What... Sep 6 2006, 03:43 PM Thanee No, magic is not broken. And no, spirits do not wi... Sep 6 2006, 04:10 PM Kremlin KOA Magic is most certainly broken
if you do not beli... Sep 6 2006, 04:16 PM Teulisch spirits do have a check and balance- this is cost ... Sep 6 2006, 04:25 PM FrankTrollman A big enough Sprite can wipe out anything that doe... Sep 6 2006, 04:28 PM Kremlin KOA for those in thew shadowrunning busines, attack pr... Sep 6 2006, 04:29 PM DireRadiant Guns have no drain! Sep 6 2006, 04:49 PM Kremlin KOA So? you can't shoot what you can't see Sep 6 2006, 04:55 PM James McMurray Yes you can, assuming you have a reason to believe... Sep 6 2006, 05:02 PM Shrike30 Scoped Panther Assault Cannons are broken. They c... Sep 6 2006, 05:03 PM Eryk the Red I haven't had too many problems with magic. So... Sep 6 2006, 05:08 PM Thanee QUOTE (DireRadiant) Guns have no drain!
Su... Sep 6 2006, 07:29 PM JonathanC QUOTE (Teulisch) spirits do have a check and balan... Sep 6 2006, 08:02 PM JonathanC QUOTE (DireRadiant) Guns have no drain!
Ri... Sep 6 2006, 08:07 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (JonathanC @ Sep 6 2006, 03:07 PM) QUOT... Sep 6 2006, 08:22 PM JonathanC Allow it? It's RAW. Guns have ammo, ammo costs... Sep 6 2006, 08:24 PM ShadowDragon I think overcasting to summon spirits is broken, b... Sep 6 2006, 08:30 PM JonathanC Combat spells aren't stronger? Get serious. Co... Sep 6 2006, 08:36 PM Mister Juan Emo likes the polls.
No pun intended.
Anyways; ... Sep 6 2006, 08:56 PM ShadowDragon Casting a spell is a complex action. Shooting a bu... Sep 6 2006, 09:01 PM James McMurray Bullets also don't cause drain.
Magic and gun... Sep 6 2006, 09:04 PM WhiskeyMac Actually, they do take over someone's mind and... Sep 6 2006, 10:32 PM JonathanC QUOTE (ShadowDragon) Casting a spell is a complex ... Sep 6 2006, 10:42 PM James McMurray If you're talking about area spells you have t... Sep 6 2006, 10:52 PM Metasigil But, firing off a pair of frag or HE grenades will... Sep 6 2006, 10:53 PM JonathanC QUOTE (James McMurray) If you're talking about... Sep 6 2006, 10:57 PM Toshiaki QUOTE (JonathanC)Allow it? It's RAW. Guns have... Sep 6 2006, 10:57 PM James McMurray It's also a lot cheaper (in terms of BP) to ha... Sep 6 2006, 10:58 PM JonathanC QUOTE (James McMurray) It's also a lot cheaper... Sep 6 2006, 11:00 PM James McMurray Right, I said that earlier.
I'm specificall... Sep 6 2006, 11:03 PM JonathanC I don't know...you only have to buy an area ef... Sep 6 2006, 11:31 PM Dr. Dodge QUOTE (Toshiaki) QUOTE (JonathanC)Allow it? It... Sep 7 2006, 12:09 AM James McMurray QUOTE (JonathanC @ Sep 6 2006, 06:31 PM) I do... Sep 7 2006, 12:33 AM JonathanC 15BP? How so? Spells don't cost 15BP per spell... Sep 7 2006, 12:40 AM ShadowDragon QUOTE (JonathanC) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Sep... Sep 7 2006, 12:40 AM ShadowDragon QUOTE (JonathanC) 15BP? How so? Spells don't c... Sep 7 2006, 12:43 AM James McMurray Doh! What ShadowDragon said. Sep 7 2006, 12:47 AM cx2 Ares alpha anyone? I'll have to check and see ... Sep 7 2006, 12:51 AM JonathanC I still think the magic is a better investment. Aw... Sep 7 2006, 12:55 AM James McMurray The airburst link is a smartgun accessory that doe... Sep 7 2006, 12:59 AM James McMurray Walking around with sustained spells isn't as ... Sep 7 2006, 01:03 AM Gort Also keep in mind that walking around with sustain... Sep 7 2006, 05:14 AM Slithery D QUOTE (Gort) Also keep in mind that walking around... Sep 7 2006, 05:16 AM Cognitive Resonance QUOTE (WhiskeyMac)Actually, they do take over some... Sep 7 2006, 05:25 AM mallet QUOTE (James McMurray) Walking around with sustain... Sep 7 2006, 05:51 AM mallet QUOTE (Slithery D) QUOTE (Gort @ Sep 7 2006, ... Sep 7 2006, 05:57 AM Slithery D QUOTE (mallet) QUOTE (Slithery D @ Sep 7 2006... Sep 7 2006, 06:26 AM JonathanC The wording is a bit ambiguous as to whether walki... Sep 7 2006, 07:15 AM NightHaunter My justification for yes.
Combat spells can waste... Sep 7 2006, 03:44 PM Slithery D QUOTE (JonathanC) The wording is a bit ambiguous a... Sep 7 2006, 04:16 PM James McMurray Nighthaunter: Guns can also waste just about every... Sep 7 2006, 04:25 PM Slithery D QUOTE (James McMurray @ Sep 7 2006, 11:25 AM)... Sep 7 2006, 04:36 PM Zen Shooter01 I don't think magic is broken because statisti... Sep 7 2006, 04:37 PM James McMurray I didn't say it was easy, just that it was eas... Sep 7 2006, 04:47 PM Xenefungus Slightly off-topic: If and how can a mage transfer... Sep 9 2006, 08:50 AM Thanee It might work with a spirit as 'messenger... Sep 9 2006, 08:59 AM Lantzer QUOTE (JonathanC) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Sep... Sep 9 2006, 02:07 PM Lantzer Oh and to add my own vote... Yes magic can be over... Sep 9 2006, 02:13 PM Steak and Spirits I understand that perhaps this response may be com... Sep 9 2006, 02:33 PM Slithery D QUOTE (Xenefungus) Slightly off-topic: If and how ... Sep 9 2006, 03:23 PM Cognitive Resonance QUOTE (Slithery D) QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Sep 9 ... Sep 9 2006, 05:37 PM knasser I didn't vote. Shadowrun has a very elegant an... Sep 10 2006, 12:42 AM Slithery D I would take this whining more seriously if your ... Sep 10 2006, 12:48 AM Apathy QUOTE (Slithery D) I would take this whining more ... Sep 10 2006, 02:43 AM Steak and Spirits I don't think that's the solution we'r... Sep 10 2006, 04:34 AM James McMurray Trust me, in 5 years of campaigning you'll see... Sep 10 2006, 06:10 AM Ophis Having done the work at converting old characters ... Sep 10 2006, 08:20 AM mintcar Magic does give the player a lot of creative possi... Sep 10 2006, 01:32 PM fool aside from the mind control stuff, things seem pre... Sep 10 2006, 07:51 PM James McMurray I agree with that, although I haven't seen muc... Sep 10 2006, 07:57 PM Shrike30 Street magic managed to add so many varied things ... Sep 13 2006, 07:30 PM Egon In case you don't get it from the poll results... Sep 16 2006, 01:38 AM Kremlin KOA QUOTE (Slithery D) I would take this whining more ... Sep 16 2006, 11:38 AM Slithery D See! You wasted Essence by getting more than t... Sep 16 2006, 03:45 PM Kremlin KOA is that sarcasm? Sep 16 2006, 04:35 PM De Badd Ass QUOTE (JonathanC)I've almost never seen a forc... Sep 16 2006, 04:42 PM De Badd Ass QUOTE (Egon) In case you don't get it from the... Sep 16 2006, 05:01 PM FrankTrollman The fact that ranged weapons generally require a s... Sep 16 2006, 05:37 PM Cognitive Resonance QUOTE (De Badd Ass) QUOTE (Egon @ Sep 15 2006... Sep 16 2006, 05:43 PM James McMurray I somehow doubt that pack of mundanes with hatchet... Sep 16 2006, 06:10 PM Tbunny QUOTE (Kremlin KOA) let it know a couple of spells... Sep 16 2006, 06:39 PM Rotbart van Dainig Additional powers are chosen by the character. Sep 16 2006, 06:41 PM Cognitive Resonance QUOTE (Tbunny)Just curious...where does it say tha... Sep 16 2006, 06:47 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE I somehow doubt that pack of mundanes with ... Sep 16 2006, 07:20 PM James McMurray Assuming they could all get near it. Go to a biker... Sep 16 2006, 07:51 PM Slithery D Energy Aura makes them considerably less likely to... Sep 16 2006, 08:02 PM James McMurray It doesn't have to catch them. Remember, they... Sep 16 2006, 08:20 PM Slithery D I suppose. In any case, screw all of these extra h... Sep 16 2006, 08:26 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (James McMurray) It doesn't have to catc... Sep 16 2006, 08:37 PM James McMurray Our current group doesn't have a street samura... Sep 16 2006, 09:28 PM James McMurray QUOTE But in an absolute sense, the razorgirl... Sep 16 2006, 09:32 PM mfb QUOTE (James McMurray)Assuming they could all get ... Sep 16 2006, 09:34 PM Slithery D Hell, the rules even allow you to get bonus dice w... Sep 16 2006, 09:44 PM James McMurray True, but neither is allowing 16 people to attack ... Sep 16 2006, 10:01 PM Slithery D Of course, the real issue is that if it's a fi... Sep 16 2006, 10:10 PM hyzmarca I wouldn't exactly call having your target loo... Sep 16 2006, 11:43 PM
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