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post Oct 21 2003, 03:32 PM
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My reason #1 why I dislike the D20 system.

The D20 standard is an attempt by WotC to make all roleplaying games clones of D&D in order to sell more of their books. If you play D20 then you will play D&D at least once.
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- Buzzed   Why D20 sucks   Oct 21 2003, 03:32 PM
- - Tanka   It's not like D20 is that bad. It has it...   Oct 21 2003, 03:35 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (Buzzed) The D20 standard is an attempt by W...   Oct 21 2003, 03:37 PM
- - TinkerGnome   DnD 3.5 was planned from the time 3.0 hit the shel...   Oct 21 2003, 05:15 PM
- - Digital Heroin   You know, I've yet to see a reason to hate the...   Oct 21 2003, 06:44 PM
- - MYST1C   I simply don't like systems with fixed charact...   Oct 21 2003, 08:04 PM
- - TinkerGnome   I think it's less of "I hate d20 as a sys...   Oct 21 2003, 08:12 PM
- - Buzzed   Slicing a low level pc with a blade does huge dama...   Oct 22 2003, 03:32 AM
- - Bull   Anyone who knows me knows that I have series issue...   Oct 22 2003, 03:40 AM
- - DigitalMage   I have only played a couple of D20 games and am ju...   Oct 22 2003, 09:35 AM
- - Swansonegger   QUOTE (Buzzed) The D20 hit point system where you ...   Oct 22 2003, 01:35 PM
- - DigitalMage   @Swansonegger - This is why I mentioned the Hit Po...   Oct 22 2003, 01:58 PM
- - TinkerGnome   It's worth pointing out that a hero of any lev...   Oct 22 2003, 02:01 PM
- - XON2000   I have no problem with the idea of a "univers...   Oct 22 2003, 02:41 PM
- - JongWK   I dislike Class systems, at least they allowed for...   Oct 22 2003, 04:04 PM
- - Adam   To run the game. I've been playing 3e for abou...   Oct 22 2003, 04:17 PM
- - JongWK   They don't give a SRD for the MM as far as I k...   Oct 22 2003, 04:41 PM
- - JongWK   The weird thing is that I keep defending D&D i...   Oct 22 2003, 04:46 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE They don't give a SRD for the MM as far ...   Oct 22 2003, 04:53 PM
- - TinkerGnome   JongWK, a lot of the issues you list are issues mo...   Oct 22 2003, 04:59 PM
- - JongWK   I stand corrected, the SRD does include the basic ...   Oct 22 2003, 05:38 PM
- - TinkerGnome   AEG has been one of the companies with the best id...   Oct 22 2003, 06:19 PM
- - Tanka   The "hack-and-slash" method that a lot o...   Oct 22 2003, 08:42 PM
- - Swansonegger   To say that D20 promotes hack-n-slash while other ...   Oct 23 2003, 01:52 PM
- - Tanka   Again, this is dependant on the GM. In my view, S...   Oct 23 2003, 04:20 PM
- - Catsnightmare   I also say bullshit to promoting hack & slash,...   Oct 24 2003, 01:57 AM
- - Tanka   You see, that may just be your GM who's doing ...   Oct 24 2003, 02:06 AM
- - JongWK   D&D: "Ho ho, the village guards want us t...   Oct 24 2003, 01:33 PM
- - Swansonegger   QUOTE (JongWK)D&D: "Ho ho, the village gu...   Oct 24 2003, 09:20 PM
- - easytohate   I take full responsabillty for all of the games I ...   Oct 30 2003, 08:47 PM
- - vebor   QUOTE (Bull) 2) Collects the bad Games in a sing...   Oct 30 2003, 10:24 PM
- - nezumi   I agree that the players make the game, but the ga...   Oct 30 2003, 11:10 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 30 2003, 07:10 PM) Exampl...   Oct 30 2003, 11:23 PM
- - Tanka   Thing is, the sleeping Troll might just have a Bod...   Oct 31 2003, 02:53 AM
- - Dim Sum   D20 rawks! Anyone who says different will face...   Oct 31 2003, 04:19 AM
- - nezumi   Firstly, yes, you're right, I edited my exampl...   Oct 31 2003, 01:14 PM
- - Pistons   QUOTE (nezumi) I agree that the players make the g...   Oct 31 2003, 02:11 PM
- - Tanka   Taking into account that when I talk about attribu...   Oct 31 2003, 02:30 PM
- - Swansonegger   QUOTE (nezumi)Example 2:  There's always ...   Nov 1 2003, 05:04 PM
- - Tanka   I'll say this, pure and simple: D20 is fun in ...   Nov 2 2003, 05:43 AM
- - bwdemon   I have no problem at all with the d20 system. In ...   Nov 2 2003, 04:34 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (bwdemon) It isn't the best, I reserve t...   Nov 2 2003, 05:04 PM
- - lodestar   I have to admit my biggest beef about the D20 syst...   Nov 9 2003, 12:07 AM
- - HolyTrinity   This is a little late, but to bring up the Town wa...   Nov 11 2003, 04:06 AM
- - lodestar   Case in point, last night we played a one shot D...   Nov 11 2003, 06:24 PM
- - Swansonegger   QUOTE (lodestar) Case in point, last night we play...   Nov 11 2003, 10:36 PM
- - nezumi   Alright, to reply to HolyTrinity... I have tried p...   Nov 12 2003, 01:58 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (lodestar) Case in point, last night we play...   Nov 12 2003, 07:04 PM
- - lodestar   Part of the problem as well with the D20 system as...   Nov 12 2003, 07:57 PM
- - Adam   Good points; as a fan of skill-based systems, I ty...   Nov 12 2003, 08:55 PM
- - DigitalMage   D20 Star Wars has Degrees of success on p70 of the...   Nov 13 2003, 11:44 AM
- - JongWK   A friend of mine house-ruled that a "20...   Nov 13 2003, 02:42 PM
- - vitus979   QUOTE (lodestar @ Nov 12 2003, 07:57 PM) Part...   Nov 14 2003, 05:12 PM
- - vitus979   QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 30 2003, 11:10 PM) Exampl...   Nov 14 2003, 05:28 PM
- - vitus979   For some reason my replies are coming through weir...   Nov 14 2003, 05:43 PM
- - lodestar   OK first I just didn't like the system, to eac...   Nov 25 2003, 05:39 PM
- - Swansonegger   Hey, the Box has to make room for what sells I gue...   Nov 26 2003, 10:25 PM
- - Adam   I'd agree; from the few times I've been th...   Nov 26 2003, 10:34 PM
- - lodestar   It does still have some stuff but not much is left...   Nov 26 2003, 11:04 PM
- - Plastic Rat   I think Bull's reply sums things up pretty muc...   Nov 28 2003, 05:44 AM
- - Adam   A monopoly? You mean the company I work for doesn...   Nov 28 2003, 06:18 AM
- - Plastic Rat   Symantecs symantecs...damnit, you know what I mean...   Nov 28 2003, 06:26 AM
- - Adam   Not on this side of the world. Tomorrow, work, Fri...   Nov 28 2003, 06:33 AM
- - Pistons   QUOTE (Plastic Rat @ Nov 28 2003, 01:26 AM) S...   Nov 28 2003, 05:29 PM
- - Synner   QUOTE (Pistons) QUOTE (Plastic Rat @ Nov 28 2...   Nov 28 2003, 06:05 PM
- - Adam   Well, it's actually the name of the company th...   Nov 28 2003, 06:46 PM
- - Plastic Rat   I think I'll start posting in chinese, at leas...   Nov 29 2003, 03:44 AM
- - Swansonegger   QUOTE (Adam)Does Tramps on.. err.. McLeod Trail, I...   Nov 29 2003, 03:59 AM
- - DanJ   I personally dont really hate the d20 system altho...   Nov 29 2003, 04:12 AM
- - Adam   Well, Call of Cthulthu is still being published us...   Nov 29 2003, 04:36 AM
- - Ancient History   The heavily modified d20 system used by Mutants an...   Nov 29 2003, 05:09 AM
- - Scarab   QUOTE (Ancient History) The heavily modified d20 s...   Nov 30 2003, 07:26 AM
- - Pistons   Actually, M&M is based more off of the materia...   Nov 30 2003, 06:13 PM
- - Ancient History   Essentially M&M is d20 Lite. No classes, DnD-...   Nov 30 2003, 06:20 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE (Pistons) Actually, M&M is based more of...   Dec 1 2003, 05:35 AM
- - DigitalMage   Indeed Godlrush games have released their Action...   Dec 1 2003, 11:46 AM
- - bwdemon   QUOTE (Ancient History) Plus, the most flexible su...   Dec 4 2003, 04:49 PM


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