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FrankTrollman
post Nov 4 2006, 09:21 PM
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So 2071 is the time when Mars gets closest to the Earth as it does every 17 years (the last one was 2003). Using Shadowrun technology and the rules presented in Target: Wasteland, one is able to accelerate at one Gravity (9.8 ms/s^2) pretty much all day. And that's fine, because with one day of accelerating at that speed, and one day slowing down at the same rate, you'd have gone 78 million kilometers.

That's convenient, because that's the distance from the Earth to Mars in 2071. Assuming you have sufficient fuel (and you do, because you are refueling your plasma jet on a stable space platform), you can get to the orbit of Mars in just oer 2 days. You could potentially have a mars mission that lasted less than a week.

Yeppers, that's 86,400 seconds a day, for a mid-point velocity of 847 kilometers per second. That's less than 1/3 of 1% of the speed of light, so you can still handwave off relativistic effects. The best part is that the entire trip (except for a hurlariffic experience at the beginning, middle, and end of the trip) would be spent at acceleration equal to normal Earth Gravity. In short, the plasma jet would propel you through space fast enough that it would feel just like you were sitting in a normal room on Earth.

-Frank
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- FrankTrollman   The Stars are not Far   Nov 4 2006, 09:21 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   New Space Race?   Nov 4 2006, 09:25 PM
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- - Demerzel   See now you're making me dust off Marion and T...   Nov 5 2006, 10:43 AM
- - Demerzel   Well, okay. This is a less than simple problem. ...   Nov 5 2006, 11:44 AM
- - ChicagosFinest   In english?   Nov 5 2006, 04:29 PM
- - Konsaki   To hit that speed based off the weight of the spac...   Nov 5 2006, 04:46 PM
- - Steak and Spirits   QUOTE (Konsaki) It would be more cost efficient to...   Nov 5 2006, 04:55 PM
- - Demerzel   QUOTE (Konsaki) To hit that speed based off the we...   Nov 5 2006, 05:01 PM
- - Konsaki   QUOTE (Demerzel) QUOTE (Konsaki @ Nov 5 2006,...   Nov 5 2006, 05:08 PM
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- - Digital Heroin   Would I be thoroughly braindead in pointing out th...   Nov 5 2006, 05:59 PM
- - ChicagosFinest   Ahh so so magical nukes that keep popping up might...   Nov 5 2006, 06:05 PM
- - Konsaki   Why not just have 20 mages cast levitate on the sh...   Nov 5 2006, 06:08 PM
- - ChicagosFinest   and then the nuke blasts to provide fuel   Nov 5 2006, 06:10 PM
- - Konsaki   Hell, we can use catgirls for the nuclear reaction...   Nov 5 2006, 06:14 PM
- - Dentris   QUOTE (Digital Heroin) Would I be thoroughly brain...   Nov 5 2006, 06:25 PM
- - Digital Heroin   See, now there's where I go and affirm I am in...   Nov 5 2006, 06:36 PM
- - Dentris   ok, I'm not a rocket scientist myself. All i k...   Nov 5 2006, 06:56 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE Now, if you refuel your shuttle in orbit, yo...   Nov 5 2006, 07:16 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (ChicagosFinest @ Nov 5 2006, 11:29 AM)...   Nov 5 2006, 07:23 PM
- - FrankTrollman   17 days. A fusion drive capable of sending you to ...   Nov 5 2006, 07:33 PM
- - Butterblume   Am I a rocket scientist? I studied computer scienc...   Nov 5 2006, 07:51 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE @Frank: 9.8 x 78,000,000,000 x 100,000 = 7.6...   Nov 5 2006, 08:04 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Nov 5 2006, 03:04 PM) ...   Nov 5 2006, 09:02 PM
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- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Nov 5 2006, 08:26 PM) Yo...   Nov 6 2006, 02:32 AM
- - Digital Heroin   QUOTE (ChicagosFinest) Get the hell out its dragon...   Nov 6 2006, 05:14 AM
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- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE Well claiming that you could use some sort o...   Nov 6 2006, 06:15 AM
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- - Draconis   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Nov 6 2006, 02:32 AM) QUOTE...   Nov 6 2006, 11:14 AM
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- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (2bit) and bringing the topic to SR products...   Nov 6 2006, 04:24 PM
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- - knasser   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Nov 6 2006, 04:58 PM) ...   Nov 6 2006, 10:13 PM
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