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So 2071 is the time when Mars gets closest to the Earth as it does every 17 years (the last one was 2003). Using Shadowrun technology and the rules presented in Target: Wasteland, one is able to accelerate at one Gravity (9.8 ms/s^2) pretty much all day. And that's fine, because with one day of accelerating at that speed, and one day slowing down at the same rate, you'd have gone 78 million kilometers.
That's convenient, because that's the distance from the Earth to Mars in 2071. Assuming you have sufficient fuel (and you do, because you are refueling your plasma jet on a stable space platform), you can get to the orbit of Mars in just oer 2 days. You could potentially have a mars mission that lasted less than a week. Yeppers, that's 86,400 seconds a day, for a mid-point velocity of 847 kilometers per second. That's less than 1/3 of 1% of the speed of light, so you can still handwave off relativistic effects. The best part is that the entire trip (except for a hurlariffic experience at the beginning, middle, and end of the trip) would be spent at acceleration equal to normal Earth Gravity. In short, the plasma jet would propel you through space fast enough that it would feel just like you were sitting in a normal room on Earth. -Frank |
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FrankTrollman The Stars are not Far Nov 4 2006, 09:21 PM
fistandantilus3.0 New Space Race? Nov 4 2006, 09:25 PM
ChicagosFinest Where going to figgure out if those dragon bones a... Nov 4 2006, 09:30 PM
knasser Can SIMs simulate gravity? I presume they can beca... Nov 5 2006, 09:53 AM
Demerzel See now you're making me dust off Marion and T... Nov 5 2006, 10:43 AM
Demerzel Well, okay. This is a less than simple problem.
... Nov 5 2006, 11:44 AM
ChicagosFinest In english? Nov 5 2006, 04:29 PM
Konsaki To hit that speed based off the weight of the spac... Nov 5 2006, 04:46 PM
Steak and Spirits QUOTE (Konsaki) It would be more cost efficient to... Nov 5 2006, 04:55 PM
Demerzel QUOTE (Konsaki) To hit that speed based off the we... Nov 5 2006, 05:01 PM
Konsaki QUOTE (Demerzel) QUOTE (Konsaki @ Nov 5 2006,... Nov 5 2006, 05:08 PM
Dentris Chicago Finest:
It means in order to make a rocke... Nov 5 2006, 05:26 PM
Demerzel @Konsaki,
I don't mean to diminish your contr... Nov 5 2006, 05:47 PM
Digital Heroin Would I be thoroughly braindead in pointing out th... Nov 5 2006, 05:59 PM
ChicagosFinest Ahh so so magical nukes that keep popping up might... Nov 5 2006, 06:05 PM
Konsaki Why not just have 20 mages cast levitate on the sh... Nov 5 2006, 06:08 PM
ChicagosFinest and then the nuke blasts to provide fuel Nov 5 2006, 06:10 PM
Konsaki Hell, we can use catgirls for the nuclear reaction... Nov 5 2006, 06:14 PM
Dentris QUOTE (Digital Heroin) Would I be thoroughly brain... Nov 5 2006, 06:25 PM
Digital Heroin See, now there's where I go and affirm I am in... Nov 5 2006, 06:36 PM
Dentris ok, I'm not a rocket scientist myself. All i k... Nov 5 2006, 06:56 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE Now, if you refuel your shuttle in orbit, yo... Nov 5 2006, 07:16 PM
knasser QUOTE (ChicagosFinest @ Nov 5 2006, 11:29 AM)... Nov 5 2006, 07:23 PM
FrankTrollman 17 days. A fusion drive capable of sending you to ... Nov 5 2006, 07:33 PM
Butterblume Am I a rocket scientist? I studied computer scienc... Nov 5 2006, 07:51 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE @Frank: 9.8 x 78,000,000,000 x 100,000 = 7.6... Nov 5 2006, 08:04 PM
knasser QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Nov 5 2006, 03:04 PM) ... Nov 5 2006, 09:02 PM
Steak and Spirits QUOTE When your players get back, do us a favour a... Nov 5 2006, 09:51 PM
eidolon Oh man. Can we see another "YotC" lengt... Nov 5 2006, 11:57 PM
ChicagosFinest Get the hell out its dragon bones! Just like y... Nov 6 2006, 01:18 AM
Steak and Spirits ....
Johnson. We have a problem.
Bring the Ne... Nov 6 2006, 01:21 AM
Crusher Bob You can take a look at Atomic Rockets for the desc... Nov 6 2006, 01:26 AM
hyzmarca QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Nov 5 2006, 08:26 PM) Yo... Nov 6 2006, 02:32 AM
Digital Heroin QUOTE (ChicagosFinest) Get the hell out its dragon... Nov 6 2006, 05:14 AM
Demerzel First of all by Fuel I mean reaction mass, it coul... Nov 6 2006, 05:42 AM
Jack Kain You'd spin the crew comartment of the ship. Th... Nov 6 2006, 06:01 AM
Demerzel Also le t me give you an idea of the unreasonablen... Nov 6 2006, 06:10 AM
FrankTrollman QUOTE Well claiming that you could use some sort o... Nov 6 2006, 06:15 AM
Vaevictis QUOTE (Demerzel) Thrust = -u * dm/dt
Well hell... Nov 6 2006, 10:51 AM
Draconis QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Nov 6 2006, 02:32 AM) QUOTE... Nov 6 2006, 11:14 AM
ChicagosFinest Ahh so it is the dragon who plans to go retreive t... Nov 6 2006, 03:28 PM
2bit and bringing the topic to SR products again, where... Nov 6 2006, 04:17 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE (2bit) and bringing the topic to SR products... Nov 6 2006, 04:24 PM
Demerzel QUOTE (Frank) Wow. That's amazingly not meanin... Nov 6 2006, 04:26 PM
ChicagosFinest most of it yeah. Wake of the commet is probably a... Nov 6 2006, 04:35 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE In fact the space shuttle uses closer to 10,... Nov 6 2006, 04:44 PM
Demerzel Okay, you want it line by line:
K = 1.38E-23 J/K
... Nov 6 2006, 04:51 PM
Butterblume Using today's possible technology, it seems sw... Nov 6 2006, 05:09 PM
FrankTrollman Sorry Demerzel, I was way too generous with your c... Nov 6 2006, 05:28 PM
ChicagosFinest I think someone just got served Nov 6 2006, 05:49 PM
Draconis QUOTE (2bit @ Nov 6 2006, 04:17 PM) and bring... Nov 6 2006, 05:50 PM
Demerzel You never started checking my math.
I never claim... Nov 6 2006, 06:44 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE I’m sorry Frank but you’re not even trying .... Nov 6 2006, 07:08 PM
Demerzel I’m sorry Frank, I gave you credit for a better un... Nov 6 2006, 09:31 PM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Demerzel) But I take it you don’t want to a... Nov 6 2006, 09:50 PM
FrankTrollman Demerzel, at its core you are proposing that the t... Nov 6 2006, 09:58 PM
knasser QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Nov 6 2006, 12:28 PM)... Nov 6 2006, 10:01 PM
Demerzel QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) A fusion reactor would solve tha... Nov 6 2006, 10:03 PM
hyzmarca A quick fact check shows that fuel is, in fact, 92... Nov 6 2006, 10:04 PM
knasser QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Nov 6 2006, 04:58 PM) ... Nov 6 2006, 10:13 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE A quick fact check shows that fuel is, in f... Nov 6 2006, 10:15 PM
Demerzel I think this argument may have stemmed from the ba... Nov 6 2006, 10:29 PM
FrankTrollman From that site you linked:
QUOTE Observe that the... Nov 6 2006, 10:36 PM
knasser edit: Deleted post - the argument is dead. Just ob... Nov 6 2006, 10:47 PM
Demerzel QUOTE (Frank)1 Kilogram of fuel gets 10^14 Joules.... Nov 6 2006, 10:51 PM
Demerzel Okay Frank, lets use the example there of a Ion Dr... Nov 6 2006, 11:02 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE Where is your enormous heat sink?
A glowing... Nov 6 2006, 11:11 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Nov 6 2006, 05:15 PM) ... Nov 6 2006, 11:30 PM
TheRedRightHand Wow, who says roleplayers are a bunch of nerds...? Nov 6 2006, 11:49 PM
knasser QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE Where is your enormous... Nov 6 2006, 11:51 PM
Demerzel The glowing contrail of plasma would be the output... Nov 6 2006, 11:51 PM
hyzmarca Well, if you want to get into pure speculative the... Nov 7 2006, 12:16 AM
Demerzel Carbon is a poor conductor however so as a heat si... Nov 7 2006, 12:19 AM
knasser SR2070 technology - how about this: You create a n... Nov 7 2006, 12:31 AM
hyzmarca QUOTE (knasser @ Nov 6 2006, 07:31 PM) SR2070... Nov 7 2006, 12:38 AM
knasser QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Nov 6 2006, 07:38 PM) QUOTE... Nov 7 2006, 12:42 AM
Draconis C'mon argue more physics. I want to see digita... Nov 8 2006, 06:37 PM
FrankTrollman Uh... sure.
Plasma expansion is a refrigerant. Th... Nov 8 2006, 06:43 PM
Demerzel I'd like to think the Physics classes I tought... Nov 8 2006, 06:44 PM
FrankTrollman Oh, and a significant portion of energy popping ou... Nov 8 2006, 06:55 PM
Demerzel Well first off, your statement regarding the expan... Nov 8 2006, 07:24 PM
Draconis Ah there we go..... Nov 8 2006, 08:51 PM
Garrowolf okay so the physics lesson was interesting but I t... Nov 9 2006, 05:25 AM
hyzmarca If they're in artificial hibernation under art... Nov 9 2006, 06:22 AM
Garrowolf so you either have some sort of acceleration gel o... Nov 9 2006, 07:16 AM
FrankTrollman Shadowrun technology provides the ability to keepp... Nov 9 2006, 07:17 AM
hyzmarca QUOTE (Garrowolf) so you either have some sort of ... Nov 9 2006, 08:16 AM
The Jopp Ok, I’m no-brainer when it comes to these subjects... Nov 9 2006, 08:28 AM
Garrowolf why not a probe with that biolum stuff that glows ... Nov 9 2006, 08:34 AM
The Jopp QUOTE (Garrowolf) why not a probe with that biolum... Nov 9 2006, 09:04 AM
hyzmarca There is no need for Rube Goldberg sleep chambers ... Nov 9 2006, 09:26 AM
FrankTrollman In 2064, there had already been at least three lan... Nov 9 2006, 04:44 PM
Demerzel Easier than ever it may very well be, but a weeken... Nov 9 2006, 05:06 PM
FrankTrollman If you are going nuclear at all, and you can do it... Nov 9 2006, 05:53 PM
kzt QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Nuclear engines propel the U... Nov 9 2006, 06:17 PM
Demerzel Wow, I can’t believe you still believe that after ... Nov 9 2006, 06:52 PM
Butterblume QUOTE (Demerzel)Nothing changes with a nuclear ene... Nov 9 2006, 07:21 PM
Demerzel QUOTE (Butterblume) Stream out the plasma through ... Nov 9 2006, 07:32 PM
knasser QUOTE (Demerzel @ Nov 9 2006, 02:32 PM) QUOTE... Nov 9 2006, 07:41 PM
FrankTrollman Yes, those are kilotonnes, not tonnes. Sorry, it w... Nov 9 2006, 07:53 PM![]() ![]() |
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