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rlemansky
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RL Hermetic Theory postulates the existence of egregores. These are astral entities based off of the collective belief(s) of the members of a group or philosophy. Thus, the US, Liberty, Gaia all have their own egregores. Some theorize that 'gods' are only alive as long as they have worshippers. RL mages use this theory to create servitors-coalesce enough of the right energy and-'It's Alive!'

In SR, MegaCorps employ thousands, if not millions, have their own philosophy, and have their own 'legal' existence. Is it too much of a stretch to assume that they have an astral 'life'? Imagine a group of runners hitting Ares, only to find that there is an Ares spirit, with major mojo at it's disposal. Imagine Lowfyr getting ousted-or at least battling-the SK entity on the metaplanes.

These corporate egregores could start Initiatory Groups, or even function as Totems to grant spells-or at least dispatch spirit 'buds' to aid it's followers. That'd take corporate magical security to the next level (like it needed the help) and add some new Shaman to the corporate roster-aren't corp shaman rather rare?

On a completely different note-can Shaman cast spells? I've gotten a bit confused in my re-reading of the books that I have. Much of the time the authors refer to spell slingers as magicians-are both Hermetics and Shaman magicians, or are Hermetics the only mages? I know it's semantics, but I'm a bit lost, nonetheless.

Thanks.

R
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- rlemansky   Egregores, MegaCorps, and Magik   Oct 27 2003, 12:46 PM
- - Lilt   That is very interesting... There is a feathered s...   Oct 27 2003, 12:57 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (rlemansky) Imagine Lowfyr getting ousted-or...   Oct 27 2003, 02:39 PM
- - Siege   I guess you would then need to develop some form o...   Oct 27 2003, 05:30 PM
- - phelious fogg   It is if you are an SK wageslave.. If I was a I w...   Oct 27 2003, 05:40 PM
- - Siege   Do you _believe_ or simply acknowledge that he is ...   Oct 27 2003, 05:46 PM
- - Velocity   Wouldn't it depend on the corp? Yamatetsu is ...   Oct 27 2003, 07:03 PM
- - rlemansky   A further clarification is perhaps in order... ...   Oct 27 2003, 07:36 PM
- - Req   So do these things sound a bit like Passions to an...   Oct 27 2003, 07:38 PM
- - Velocity   So there's no faith requirement, merely a shar...   Oct 27 2003, 08:36 PM
- - Sphynx   I've been working on a similar idea. I plan t...   Oct 27 2003, 08:51 PM
- - rlemansky   In response... 'So there's no faith requi...   Oct 28 2003, 01:26 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   That last bit reminded me: Check the bio of the ...   Oct 28 2003, 04:38 AM
- - Dr Komuso   You're turning Shadowrun into Nobilis here N...   Oct 28 2003, 05:25 AM
- - Kagetenshi   On a side note, what kind of Egregore would Apple ...   Oct 28 2003, 05:48 AM
- - mfb   hmm. it'd be interesting to see the effects of...   Oct 28 2003, 05:59 AM
- - Velocity   QUOTE rlemansky wrote: and, really, don't be o...   Oct 28 2003, 06:05 AM
- - mfb   i could see corporations anchoring extended-area e...   Oct 28 2003, 06:13 AM
- - Velocity   QUOTE rlemansky wrote: Think about how groups are ...   Oct 28 2003, 08:35 AM
- - rlemansky   Glad to see that I sparked some interest... Regar...   Oct 28 2003, 11:28 AM
- - Backgammon   Sounds like a spirit of Man to me, just with a dif...   Oct 28 2003, 02:58 PM
- - Wireknight   It would be Quickening, not Anchoring, that would ...   Oct 28 2003, 05:08 PM
- - ialdabaoth   Again, Earthdawn's concept of Names and Patter...   Oct 28 2003, 05:47 PM
- - CoalHeart   Egregores Disney's = Micky Minny Goofy Pluto ...   Oct 28 2003, 06:05 PM
- - mfb   er, quickening, right. the astral vulnerability sh...   Oct 29 2003, 04:27 AM
- - Talia Invierno   Spirit personifying the concept of the home/hearth...   Nov 3 2003, 08:11 PM
- - Backgammon   Woah.. Children of the Dragon, anyone?   Nov 3 2003, 08:13 PM
- - Tiralee   Oh, gods, I can predict the true, awful future tha...   Nov 23 2003, 04:12 PM
- - Lilt   Hmm. It's all good speculating wether or not t...   Nov 23 2003, 04:25 PM


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