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post Jan 26 2007, 03:28 AM
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I coded a program in c to calculate this. *flexes* This is assuming that the average immortal elf has lived 10,000 years and gained 3 karma per month because he has a cheapass GM. That means he has 360,000 karma by the time he hits the 6th world.

I'm disregarding magical groups, since they probably didn't form groups since they're so disinclined to agree with anybody that they didn't convince to agree with them in the first place. And I'm disregarding ordeals, since it's probably a pain in the ass to be constantly writing theses.

I'm assuming that they use 1/2 their karma on initiation grades, and the other half on leveling up their libraries of 100 skills.

The numbers are... *drumroll*... 341 initiation grades (0_0) and 100 skills at rating 43, making them INVINCIBLE.

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- emo samurai   How powerful ARE immortal elves?   Jan 26 2007, 03:28 AM
- - Glyph   The Karma system breaks down any time you try to a...   Jan 26 2007, 04:43 AM
- - emo samurai   You hate fun, Glyph. Why do you hate fun? And Ei...   Jan 26 2007, 04:45 AM
- - BishopMcQ   But if they took it Emo, then when would the IEs e...   Jan 26 2007, 04:53 AM
- - emo samurai   Then they'd have to settle for saying "I...   Jan 26 2007, 04:58 AM
- - yoippari   So should there be a shelf life to skill points? M...   Jan 26 2007, 05:05 AM
- - BishopMcQ   Great idea Yoippari! Every century, there wil...   Jan 26 2007, 05:10 AM
- - Crusher Bob   I had much more fun when the exasperated runner gr...   Jan 26 2007, 05:26 AM
- - emo samurai   Wouldn't they have, like, 50 anchored spells t...   Jan 26 2007, 05:31 AM
- - mfb   yeah.   Jan 26 2007, 05:46 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   mfb should know, he is one.   Jan 26 2007, 06:16 AM
- - mfb   shh, don't tell. i'm trying to scam my way...   Jan 26 2007, 06:19 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   what, you think some shiny sword and a winning smi...   Jan 26 2007, 06:23 AM
- - mfb   it worked at least once!   Jan 26 2007, 06:27 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   well when you've got actual ranks in the Winni...   Jan 26 2007, 06:36 AM
- - emo samurai   Especially 43 ranks.   Jan 26 2007, 07:14 AM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) well when you've got...   Jan 26 2007, 08:10 AM
- - Kyrn   I think a good benchmark for IEs is that their gro...   Jan 26 2007, 12:46 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Netherwalking != teleporting. ~J   Jan 26 2007, 12:51 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   As cheezy as it sounds, especially from the perrin...   Jan 26 2007, 01:29 PM
- - Kyrn   Not after 2070.   Jan 26 2007, 05:52 PM
- - emo samurai   Huh?   Jan 26 2007, 06:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   In SR4, they can't have a skill higher than 7....   Jan 26 2007, 06:24 PM
- - BishopMcQ   The great dragons do, I'd say that opens the d...   Jan 26 2007, 08:24 PM
- - Warmaster Lah   So how many ally spirits you think an IE has. On a...   Jan 26 2007, 10:39 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   that we know of, none of them do. However Ehran ha...   Jan 26 2007, 11:59 PM
- - Sir_Psycho   We're forgetting the important issue. They ha...   Jan 27 2007, 12:15 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   To my knowledge, Jurojin is not dikoted.   Jan 27 2007, 12:17 AM
- - emo samurai   NOT GOOD IMAGE NOOOOOOOOOO   Jan 27 2007, 12:20 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (emo samurai @ Jan 26 2007, 08:20 PM) N...   Jan 27 2007, 01:05 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...a well aimed Thor Shot can still take them out.   Jan 27 2007, 01:40 AM
- - Kagetenshi   No, actually, it probably can't. Thor shots ha...   Jan 27 2007, 01:52 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...well, you don't have to be exactly on targe...   Jan 27 2007, 02:02 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Thor shots have serious disadvantages compared to ...   Jan 27 2007, 02:07 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   So you just wait until Harlequin is lazing on a de...   Jan 27 2007, 02:45 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho)So you just wait until Harlequin...   Jan 27 2007, 04:41 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Remember, they have used a Thor Shot to take out a...   Jan 27 2007, 04:44 AM
- - Kagetenshi   We're trying, god knows. ~J   Jan 27 2007, 05:07 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Remember, they have used ...   Jan 27 2007, 05:36 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   As I understand it, a Thor Shot corrects in flight...   Jan 27 2007, 05:53 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   Where in the rules do Thor shot's come from an...   Jan 27 2007, 06:30 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...then there's Pele's Wrath. Big Kahuna ...   Jan 27 2007, 06:43 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho) Where in the rules do Thor shot...   Jan 27 2007, 07:06 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...so against GD's & IEs it's a 50/50 ...   Jan 27 2007, 07:10 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Me, I am of the opinion that, like nukes, if you g...   Jan 27 2007, 07:12 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...or that tightly focused solar beam. Think of a...   Jan 27 2007, 07:18 AM
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- - NightmareX   Well, sorry to be the first to dump on your parade...   Jan 27 2007, 01:08 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Me, I am of the opinion t...   Jan 27 2007, 01:38 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (NightmareX @ Jan 27 2007, 01:08 PM) We...   Jan 27 2007, 02:24 PM
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- - Glyph   Honestly, for an NPC like an IE, I wouldn't do...   Jan 27 2007, 08:24 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   QUOTE (Glyph) I would just use skill degradation o...   Jan 27 2007, 09:07 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) QUOTE (Glyph @ Jan ...   Jan 27 2007, 09:22 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Well, for Harlequin at least, h...   Jan 27 2007, 09:35 PM
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- - ShadowDragon8685   Ummmm, it's cannon that both teleportation and...   Jan 28 2007, 12:53 AM
- - emo samurai   Dude, I'm sorry if I look like a nitpicking as...   Jan 28 2007, 12:56 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (emo samurai) Dude, I'm sorry if I look ...   Jan 28 2007, 12:59 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Can I get a page reference? Neither SR3 nor SR4 co...   Jan 28 2007, 12:59 AM
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- - Kagetenshi   Street Magic is A: not the BBB, B: explicitly wron...   Jan 28 2007, 01:05 AM
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- - eidolon   Was that way before, as I recall, and just as expl...   Jan 28 2007, 01:06 AM
- - Jack Kain   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Ummmm, it's cannon th...   Jan 28 2007, 01:13 AM
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- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (eidolon)\As far as "SM is not the...   Jan 28 2007, 01:30 AM
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- - emo samurai   Well, there is one, I'm 99.99999% sure. I mean...   Jan 28 2007, 01:41 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   QUOTE (Jack Kain) QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ J...   Jan 28 2007, 01:42 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) No, it doesn't, but it has ...   Jan 28 2007, 01:42 AM
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- - fistandantilus3.0   yeah that makes sense. Didn't meant to speak f...   Jan 28 2007, 01:53 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE Kage wants Heal removed b...   Jan 28 2007, 01:54 AM
- - emo samurai   I just said all that shit about souls and auras. ...   Jan 28 2007, 02:03 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE But then, if magic can heal a dead limb, why...   Jan 28 2007, 02:14 AM
- - Moirdryd   Because they dont love you Emo... *pats* And how ...   Jan 28 2007, 02:16 AM
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- - Ancient History   Even in Earthdawn, you could make a case that all ...   Jan 28 2007, 02:54 AM
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- - Ravor   Well a person has to ask, what is a Soul? What if ...   Jan 28 2007, 02:58 AM
- - emo samurai   And why was there no healing magic in Earthdawn?   Jan 28 2007, 03:41 AM
- - Ancient History   QUOTE (emo samurai) And why was there no healing m...   Jan 28 2007, 03:51 AM
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- - Grinder   You are speaking of Fire Heal, which gives the cha...   Jan 28 2007, 08:04 AM
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