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ChronoGib
post Jan 29 2007, 11:41 AM
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I seem to have a different impression of what the SR world is like then my players and I was wondering how other groups run. I know I'm posing a no-right-answers question, but I'm curious how others play.

I've noticed my players have tendencies like;
1) Take anything not bolted down and assume the consequences can be dealt with. (Like taking comlinks for the sole purpose of selling them later.)
2) Be excessively violent. Example A, if they get attacked while in a gang's territory the players slaughter the gangers then chase down anyone trying to flee (then do #1 with the bodies, luckily organs count as bolted down). Example B, the guy's already hiding under his desk, but they decide to kick him in the head for no reason.
3) Disrespect Johnsons by being rude and acting like they call all the shots. (I'd have the Johnson just walk out if I wasn't trying to establish certain characters and events for the plot)

I'm a new GM and I own and have read the 4th edition core book, Mr. Johnson's Black Book and played a couple of sessions of SR 3 years ago. I have a distinctively different view of how things go in the SR universe and was wondering if I just have the wrong expectations. I was reading this thread and got the impression my players are just being grossly unprofessional. I obviously need to talk to my players, but I want to figure out what reasonable expectations are first.

Thanks to anyone who can spare some advice.
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- ChronoGib   Is looting and pillaging the norm?   Jan 29 2007, 11:41 AM
- - Jrayjoker   Oh my God, you could be describing my players a co...   Jan 29 2007, 12:23 PM
- - Kagetenshi   There is no room for decency whatsoever. The line ...   Jan 29 2007, 01:50 PM
- - Moirdryd   Not to mention the excess of killing will get them...   Jan 29 2007, 02:05 PM
- - nezumi   It sounds like they're a crew of overpaid thug...   Jan 29 2007, 02:24 PM
- - eidolon   I actively discourage 1, 2, and 3 in games that I ...   Jan 29 2007, 02:59 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (nezumi) Plus, a true sociopath (who isn...   Jan 29 2007, 03:06 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Everything has a consequence. Everything. Act lik...   Jan 29 2007, 03:07 PM
- - mfb   personally, i have no problem with any of the abov...   Jan 29 2007, 03:26 PM
- - 2bit   After having been burned by crazy looting PC's...   Jan 29 2007, 03:47 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (KarmaInferno)Act like a thug, get treated l...   Jan 29 2007, 03:53 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...not too much issue with #1. Usually its weapon...   Jan 29 2007, 04:04 PM
- - mfb   here's another possible option for driving hom...   Jan 29 2007, 04:19 PM
- - SirBedevere   Concerning the gang attack, I've always though...   Jan 29 2007, 06:21 PM
- - Skeptical Clown   #1 is more of an annoyance than a problem. If the...   Jan 29 2007, 06:32 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (ChronoGib)I seem to have a different impres...   Jan 29 2007, 08:20 PM
- - Thane36425   Lots of players tend to forget that actions have c...   Jan 29 2007, 09:17 PM
- - Thain   "When your run is ending. Some elses is just ...   Jan 29 2007, 09:22 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE 1) Take anything not bolted down and assume ...   Jan 29 2007, 09:26 PM
- - Bashfull   I'm pleased to say my new campaign has some se...   Jan 29 2007, 09:41 PM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (James McMurray) I see this follow the sam...   Jan 29 2007, 09:47 PM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (Bashfull) My suggestions: if your team wan...   Jan 29 2007, 09:51 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Well, there's nothing wrong per se with exterm...   Jan 29 2007, 11:44 PM
- - cristomeyers   If you're concerned about keeping the story (I...   Jan 30 2007, 12:32 AM
- - toturi   I'd let the dice fall as they may. If the ru...   Jan 30 2007, 12:45 AM
- - Tiger Eyes   My team looted... once. Many, many years ago. Th...   Jan 30 2007, 01:32 AM
- - Moirdryd   No survivors doesnt build a rep.. any rep... becau...   Jan 30 2007, 01:35 AM
- - Ravor   (1) Looting Well personally I don't see ...   Jan 30 2007, 02:21 AM
- - Glyph   Looting and extra violence have their place - shad...   Jan 30 2007, 03:19 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Also, a suggestion: every time you start wondering...   Jan 30 2007, 03:25 AM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (Glyph) But remember that as soon as the ru...   Jan 30 2007, 03:34 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   Keep in mind that Johnsons are generally slightly ...   Jan 30 2007, 07:33 AM
- - Vaevictis   1. Get used to looting. It's going to happen...   Jan 30 2007, 08:03 AM
- - ShadowDragon   I have a bit of experience with these issues as a ...   Jan 30 2007, 08:27 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   I just played a game with a first time SR player. ...   Jan 30 2007, 09:53 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Jan 30 2007, 04:53 AM) He...   Jan 30 2007, 11:59 AM
- - Pendaric   I have mature players so they don't try to car...   Jan 30 2007, 01:09 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho) After escorting the woman out i...   Jan 30 2007, 01:26 PM
- - cetiah   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jan 30 2007, 08:26 AM) QU...   Jan 30 2007, 01:40 PM
- - Moirdryd   I fail to see how saving the woman's life gets...   Jan 30 2007, 02:14 PM
- - Snow_Fox   QUOTE (nezumi @ Jan 29 2007, 09:24 AM) It sou...   Jan 30 2007, 02:22 PM
- - Kagetenshi   She knows your face, that you have a gun, and that...   Jan 30 2007, 02:23 PM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (Moirdryd) I fail to see how saving the woma...   Jan 30 2007, 08:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   There's a difference between "saving some...   Jan 30 2007, 08:13 PM
- - hyzmarca   The solution is simple. Rescue her because it is t...   Jan 30 2007, 08:16 PM
- - warrior_allanon   1) Looting: Everyone does it to some extent, espec...   Jan 30 2007, 08:48 PM
- - cetiah   By the way, I wrote this thread for this exact sit...   Jan 30 2007, 09:00 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Here's the way I look at it: There are two ki...   Jan 30 2007, 10:25 PM
- - lorechaser   Stealth RFID tags are very cheap, and very small. ...   Jan 30 2007, 10:57 PM
- - Kagetenshi   It's also perfectly reasonable that Shadowrunn...   Jan 30 2007, 11:02 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) It's also perfectly reasona...   Jan 30 2007, 11:21 PM
- - Crakkerjakk   My .02 dollars. 1) Looting- A certain amount of l...   Jan 31 2007, 05:24 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk @ Jan 31 2007, 12:24 AM) A...   Jan 31 2007, 05:38 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) Basically, two rules. Rule On...   Jan 31 2007, 06:37 AM
- - Vaevictis   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Or else carry portable ja...   Jan 31 2007, 09:34 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   Murder is not always a top priority. If you blow a...   Jan 31 2007, 11:46 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Vaevictis) QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ J...   Jan 31 2007, 02:00 PM
- - tisoz   If the players are not playing according to your v...   Jan 31 2007, 02:44 PM
- - mrlost   Well to the OP Our group which consists of a Japa...   Feb 1 2007, 11:37 PM
- - Vaevictis   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) I didn't say it was a...   Feb 3 2007, 09:12 PM
- - Kagetenshi   It's decent for that. You start the jammer, dr...   Feb 3 2007, 09:22 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   You can also use it and a radio-inhibited building...   Feb 3 2007, 09:46 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   Every plan has room for three small drones with hi...   Feb 3 2007, 09:52 PM
- - Vaevictis   I suppose a jammer's better than nothing if yo...   Feb 4 2007, 04:41 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Vaevictis) I suppose a jammer's better ...   Feb 4 2007, 07:36 AM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (ChronoGib)I seem to have a different impres...   Feb 4 2007, 07:20 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (Thane36425)Looting gangers that cross you m...   Feb 4 2007, 07:36 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (Pendaric)I had the team hijack a smugglers ...   Feb 4 2007, 10:12 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (Crakkerjakk) One thing I always thought mad...   Feb 4 2007, 10:40 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Ed Simons) QUOTE (Pendaric)I had the team h...   Feb 4 2007, 10:41 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho)Murder is not always a top prior...   Feb 4 2007, 11:02 PM
- - Ed Simons   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin)QUOTE (Ed Simons @ Feb 4...   Feb 4 2007, 11:13 PM


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