Feb 24 2007, 02:10 AM
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Was thinking while reading a Patrick O'Brian book that pirates in the Carib League would probably do pretty well with tall ships. There is a boom of magic in most Carib states, and a full blown houngan war, and a bust on heavy industry. This would make modern, metal ships very expensive. So expensive that magically-enhanced wooden ships may suddenly become competitive.
The object resistance of the components of a tall ship wouldn't be above 2 (worked wood, hemp, and cloth) or at most 3 (for cannons, ring bolts, other metal components). Use a steel bottom instead of the traditional copper. You could prepare the ship as a vessel and put a spirit in it. Or if that was too expensive you could inhabit specific components (air spirit in the sails, guardian spirit in the cannons, water spirit in the hull). Since the mage can easily help make the ship the threshold for enchanting stays low so anchoring can be done. Really ambitious mages could even bottom it with orichalcum! And to take it one step further, you could make it the Black Pearl by using zombies and corpse cadavers to run the ship. You'd only need humans for the officers and warrant officers. As I said 'though since magic should be pretty cheap and heavy, modern industry expensive, seeing something like this in a campaign should be believable. |
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Cheops Pirates of the Carribean Feb 24 2007, 02:10 AM
Serial_Peacemaker Well I do like the pirate aspect of shadowrun. How... Feb 24 2007, 05:41 AM
Thane36425 You might see wooden hulled power boats. Those wer... Feb 24 2007, 05:45 AM
PBTHHHHT Problem is that even making tall ships are rather ... Feb 24 2007, 05:51 AM
bibliophile20 QUOTE (PBTHHHHT) Problem is that even making tall ... Feb 24 2007, 06:06 AM
PBTHHHHT Yes the forests are regenerating, but I can see ce... Feb 24 2007, 06:12 AM
Cheops Hate to burst your bubble but industrialization is... Feb 24 2007, 06:55 AM
PBTHHHHT Burst my bubble, hardly, I love to read up on info... Feb 24 2007, 07:38 AM
Crakkerjakk Fun fact:
Back in the day(1745-1844) the most suc... Feb 24 2007, 08:13 AM
PBTHHHHT Yup, read about her when I was looking up on chine... Feb 24 2007, 08:15 AM
knasser I tend to restrict the size and complexity of obje... Feb 24 2007, 08:27 AM
Thain The stealth capacity of a sailing vessel should no... Feb 24 2007, 01:04 PM
nezumi Keep in mind, I don't think it would be financ... Feb 24 2007, 04:11 PM
PBTHHHHT One thing for modern day pirates is they will take... Feb 24 2007, 05:09 PM
Cheops Spirits with concealment make for a deadly effecti... Feb 24 2007, 05:25 PM
PBTHHHHT How effective is it against mounted assault cannon... Feb 24 2007, 05:32 PM
nezumi Modern torpedoes would be completely ineffective a... Feb 24 2007, 06:08 PM
Jack Kain You do know that piracy thrives even today. Modern... Feb 24 2007, 06:15 PM
PBTHHHHT With a rigger at the control of the freighter alon... Feb 24 2007, 06:16 PM
nezumi I doubt they'd go into public ports with it. ... Feb 24 2007, 07:49 PM
PBTHHHHT QUOTE (Cheops @ Feb 24 2007, 12:25 PM) I don... Feb 24 2007, 08:36 PM
Mistwalker Interesting article Jack
I would see the Ghost ... Feb 24 2007, 11:26 PM
Cheops QUOTE (PBTHHHHT) My other question I do have is al... Feb 25 2007, 02:01 AM
nezumi If we look at a sloop-of-war, that pretty well des... Feb 25 2007, 02:10 AM
Thain For what its worth, piracy occurs in the Carribean... Feb 25 2007, 02:16 AM
hyzmarca Personally, if I were rich enough to own a yacht I... Feb 25 2007, 03:28 AM
Thain QUOTE (hyzmarca) Personally, if I were rich enough... Feb 25 2007, 12:54 PM
hyzmarca You can't shoot down missiles with a handgun. Feb 25 2007, 02:55 PM
Butterblume You actually can shoot down missles with a handgun... Feb 25 2007, 03:23 PM
ornot If someone's launching missiles at your pleasu... Feb 25 2007, 03:31 PM
Banaticus As someone else pointed out, most of the juicy tar... Feb 26 2007, 06:54 AM
Mistwalker Hich level spirit concealment would help even with... Feb 26 2007, 07:03 AM
nezumi QUOTE (Banaticus) Remember, if someone isn't l... Feb 26 2007, 02:22 PM
Thain The Caribbean Sea is 2,754,000 kmē (1,063,000 squa... Feb 26 2007, 02:55 PM
Austere Emancipator 840m^2 is 0.00084km^2 or 0.0000000003% of the surf... Feb 26 2007, 03:18 PM
bibliophile20 Let's also not forget the wonderful effects of... Feb 26 2007, 03:24 PM
Cheops Funny enough the best way to find our Flying Dutch... Feb 26 2007, 05:26 PM
nezumi QUOTE (Cheops) Funny enough the best way to find o... Feb 26 2007, 06:07 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Cheops @ Feb 26 2007, 07:26 PM) This m... Feb 26 2007, 07:25 PM
Cheops QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (Cheops @ F... Feb 26 2007, 07:51 PM
Thain The U.S. Navy's Mk-50 advanced lightweight tor... Feb 26 2007, 08:06 PM
Austere Emancipator If you can't afford a couple of dozen thousand... Feb 26 2007, 08:19 PM
PBTHHHHT If you're hitting large scale merchant ships a... Feb 26 2007, 08:26 PM
Thain First, that is not an anti-missile missile. Now, w... Feb 26 2007, 08:42 PM
nezumi AE is right to a degree. The ship certainly would... Feb 26 2007, 08:55 PM
Austere Emancipator The RIM-66 SM-2 Block III isn't an anti-missil... Feb 26 2007, 08:59 PM
nezumi I was looking at Rigger 3's anti-ship missiles... Feb 26 2007, 09:10 PM
Austere Emancipator Ah. Then M-GM Outlaw Block IIIs it is. Feb 26 2007, 09:12 PM
Thain The RIM-66 SM-2 is a medium range surface-to-air ... Feb 26 2007, 09:28 PM
Austere Emancipator Right. And the air targets it is primarily meant t... Feb 26 2007, 09:32 PM
Cheops The real problem with using missiles is that unles... Feb 27 2007, 12:35 AM
Thane36425 The Pirates handbook did say that Corps expected t... Feb 27 2007, 12:43 AM
Cheops The gunboat thing isn't too effective unless y... Feb 27 2007, 12:59 AM
Austere Emancipator Long range missile combat in Rigger 3 does not us... Feb 27 2007, 01:12 AM
Fix-it any pirate worth his salt would use a surplus Chin... Feb 27 2007, 02:23 AM
Thane36425 QUOTE (Cheops) The gunboat thing isn't too eff... Feb 27 2007, 03:04 AM
Thain The missiles the RIM series are designed to shoot ... Feb 27 2007, 03:07 AM
FlakJacket Since people have been debating the whole looking ... Feb 27 2007, 04:45 AM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Thain) The missiles the RIM series are desi... Feb 27 2007, 09:56 AM
nezumi QUOTE (Thane36425) To get around the concealment p... Feb 27 2007, 02:40 PM
PBTHHHHT Depends on what you're protecting, the largest... Feb 27 2007, 04:06 PM
Cheops QUOTE (PBTHHHHT) Depends on what you're protec... Feb 27 2007, 08:15 PM
PBTHHHHT Oh, was reading some stuff on the Savage Worlds fo... Feb 27 2007, 09:14 PM
Thane36425 QUOTE (nezumi)
Again, price comes into question. ... Feb 27 2007, 10:36 PM
Cheops We've also danced around the obvious problem t... Feb 27 2007, 11:20 PM
Thain And who's to say that the shaman/mage who crea... Feb 28 2007, 03:50 AM
Cheops /signed. Feb 28 2007, 09:35 PM
maeel The most effective weapons against pirates would p... Mar 1 2007, 01:44 AM
hyzmarca The most effective defense against pirates is a pi... Mar 1 2007, 02:50 AM
maeel true, but i believe subs are not as cost effective... Mar 1 2007, 03:20 AM
nezumi I don't know what a picat is, but it sounds ve... Mar 1 2007, 02:06 PM
kigmatzomat This sounds like a weapon in search of a target. ... Mar 1 2007, 04:23 PM
Austere Emancipator It would take quite a bit of electronic warfare ge... Mar 1 2007, 04:32 PM
maeel speaking of weapons on civil ships, i saw a report... Mar 1 2007, 05:40 PM
FrankTrollman Here's the part I don't get: why use a woo... Mar 1 2007, 05:49 PM
Mistwalker I believe that there was two main reasons for usin... Mar 1 2007, 05:55 PM
Cheops A metal ship is a lot more costly and difficult to... Mar 1 2007, 06:04 PM
maeel didnt they use Oak and similar woods for these shi... Mar 1 2007, 06:06 PM
knasser QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Here's the part I don... Mar 1 2007, 06:09 PM
PBTHHHHT QUOTE (maeel) didnt they use Oak and similar woods... Mar 1 2007, 06:21 PM
maeel another thing learned...... Mar 1 2007, 06:23 PM
nezumi QUOTE (maeel) The only real advantage about a old ... Mar 1 2007, 06:25 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (nezumi)Because the wood has different prope... Mar 1 2007, 06:30 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE didnt they use Oak and similar woods for th... Mar 1 2007, 06:33 PM
X-Kalibur QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (nezumi)Because ... Mar 1 2007, 06:33 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (X-Kalibur)Get one of those metal storm empl... Mar 1 2007, 06:38 PM
maeel QUOTE (nezumi)QUOTE (maeel @ Mar 1 2007, 01:0... Mar 1 2007, 06:56 PM
nezumi QUOTE (maeel) I dont see, why plastic hulls are mo... Mar 1 2007, 07:31 PM
DireRadiant Plastic Ship and Chrome Men!....
Nope, I thin... Mar 1 2007, 07:37 PM
Austere Emancipator What is the "price range" of this propos... Mar 1 2007, 07:49 PM
PBTHHHHT QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (nezumi)Because ... Mar 1 2007, 08:02 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (nezumi @ Mar 1 2007, 09:06 AM) I don... Mar 1 2007, 08:08 PM
PBTHHHHT That's what we need, something out of Disney... Mar 1 2007, 08:13 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (hyzmarca)Just net the cargo plane and drag ... Mar 1 2007, 08:14 PM
hyzmarca It'll be a magic net. Or a giant whaling harp... Mar 1 2007, 08:21 PM
Austere Emancipator A suction cup harpoon, maybe?
Finally bothered to... Mar 1 2007, 08:28 PM
nezumi QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) What is the "pric... Mar 1 2007, 08:36 PM
Austere Emancipator If it was the first, you could just as well get a ... Mar 1 2007, 08:45 PM
nezumi QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) is the free spirit des... Mar 1 2007, 09:12 PM
Austere Emancipator QUOTE (nezumi)Firstly, I wasn't aware truck tr... Mar 1 2007, 09:25 PM![]() ![]() |
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