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PlutoNick
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I started playing Shadowrun 1.5 months ago. After 5 sessions, our GM rules out the rule that Cyber eyes image magnification reduces target numbers as an image scope would. So instead of having a 2 target number in medium range, my weapon specialist has 4.

In essence he loses part of his combat expertise, his years of training went down the drain, not to mention his 7000 nuyen of image magn cyberware. Instead of being Hardboiled's Tequila, Die Hard's John McLane, instead of being the neoWilliam Tell v2.0, Robin Digital Hood, he becomes one third of the three stooges, bozzo the clown if you like.

Furthermore, he says that any shot in long range suffers a -1 penalty in power rating.

Please, help me reverse his decision. Tell me some good points in order to make him understand, to see the light. If anything else fails, humiliate him so when he sees this threat, he will bow his head in humiliation and make US weapon specialists, the pride of UCAS that of any evil megacorp will fear.
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- PlutoNick   help me reverst my strict Gm's house-rule   Nov 3 2003, 07:27 PM
- - Req   http://invision.dumpshock.com/index.php?sh...wtopi...   Nov 3 2003, 07:31 PM
- - PlutoNick   you are ruining everything man. If you agree with ...   Nov 3 2003, 07:36 PM
- - PlutoNick   If you are Spiros, my GM, you will never hear the ...   Nov 3 2003, 07:38 PM
- - Kagetenshi   How were you getting a TN of 2 at medium range, pr...   Nov 3 2003, 07:40 PM
- - Tanka   A TN2 at medium is a bit low, methinks. No matter...   Nov 3 2003, 07:48 PM
- - Bearclaw   The rules, as written, don't allow a smartgun ...   Nov 3 2003, 07:48 PM
- - PlutoNick   here is how i get a 2 tn from medium range. -2 fr...   Nov 3 2003, 07:49 PM
- - RedBaron   Well the solution is to try to shoot the GM in rea...   Nov 3 2003, 07:49 PM
- - Tanka   It's stated many times in many books that Smar...   Nov 3 2003, 07:51 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Well, given that the rules explicitly state that b...   Nov 3 2003, 07:52 PM
- - Tanka   QUOTE (RedBaron) Well the solution is to try to sh...   Nov 3 2003, 07:54 PM
- - Kagetenshi   You're right. I forgot the TN for medium range...   Nov 3 2003, 07:55 PM
- - PlutoNick   Red Baron take it easy. I think we were wrong all ...   Nov 3 2003, 07:55 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Yes, it does. If you aren't going dual-gun, go...   Nov 3 2003, 07:58 PM
- - Req   QUOTE (PlutoNick) you are ruining everything man. ...   Nov 3 2003, 08:03 PM
- - PlutoNick   Don't tell this to my GM but I dont think it s...   Nov 3 2003, 08:06 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I completely agree. It makes more sense that smart...   Nov 3 2003, 08:09 PM
- - RedBaron   I think it should work cause u dont magnify the gu...   Nov 3 2003, 08:13 PM
- - TinkerGnome   The best combo is to have both smartlink and image...   Nov 3 2003, 08:14 PM
- - Kagetenshi   TN 3 at long range? How? But yes, even though they...   Nov 3 2003, 08:16 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) TN 3 at long range? How? But ye...   Nov 3 2003, 08:17 PM
- - The Frumious Bandersnatch   QUOTE (TinkerGnome) The best combo is to have both...   Nov 3 2003, 08:23 PM
- - nezumi   PlutoNick, I think you're my new favorite pers...   Nov 3 2003, 08:23 PM
- - nezumi   Oh, almost forgot... Your character is not totall...   Nov 3 2003, 08:25 PM
- - Ed_209a   Pluto, I wouldn't let you use both SG and cybe...   Nov 3 2003, 08:31 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (The Frumious Bandersnatch) Assuming you nev...   Nov 3 2003, 08:37 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (TinkerGnome) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Nov 3...   Nov 3 2003, 08:39 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE Furthermore, he says that any shot in long r...   Nov 3 2003, 08:47 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) The other bit has alre...   Nov 3 2003, 08:56 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Nothing stacks with anything, except (obviously) S...   Nov 3 2003, 09:07 PM
- - kevyn668   QUOTE Austere Emancipator Posted on Nov 3 2003, 08...   Nov 4 2003, 02:40 AM
- - Shockwave_IIc   I guess im the only one that housed ruled that to ...   Nov 4 2003, 02:51 AM
- - Shadow   Heres an idea. Use the rules as written. House r...   Nov 4 2003, 03:05 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) I guess im the only one that...   Nov 4 2003, 03:10 AM
- - Andvare   QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) I guess im the only one that...   Nov 4 2003, 03:46 AM
- - TinkerGnome   Scopes are for snipers. Unless, that is, you...   Nov 4 2003, 03:51 AM
- - Glyph   By the way, according to the CC, you can't use...   Nov 4 2003, 04:48 AM
- - Tanka   My GMs always just let dual guns go with one Smart...   Nov 4 2003, 04:52 AM
- - Diesel   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Might I ask what is wr...   Nov 4 2003, 06:27 AM
- - Nindaru   QUOTE (Diesel) QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ N...   Nov 4 2003, 06:39 AM
- - Diesel   Sounds splendid to me. Unless you want to go ha...   Nov 4 2003, 06:59 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   I must admit that I'm surprised to hear that e...   Nov 4 2003, 07:27 AM
- - Kurukami   QUOTE (Glyph) By the way, according to the CC, you...   Nov 4 2003, 04:36 PM
- - Kagetenshi   No, it says you can have a pad in each hand, so wh...   Nov 4 2003, 04:41 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Kurukami @ Nov 4 2003, 10:36 AM) QUOTE...   Nov 4 2003, 04:45 PM
- - Ed_209a   That TM also mainly refers to the 5.56mm round imp...   Nov 4 2003, 04:49 PM
- - Siege   Actually, it might help instinctive shooting at cl...   Nov 4 2003, 04:55 PM
- - Kagetenshi   It all depends on how exactly the smartlink works....   Nov 4 2003, 04:59 PM
- - Siege   Yeah, we're dealing with strict hypotheticals....   Nov 4 2003, 05:06 PM
- - TinkerGnome   The best use for the dual induction pad is when yo...   Nov 4 2003, 05:06 PM
- - Bearclaw   Someone mentioned that laser sights don't stac...   Nov 4 2003, 05:31 PM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Nov 4 2003, 01:31 PM) Someo...   Nov 4 2003, 05:38 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The best part about dual SMGs with smartlinks is, ...   Nov 4 2003, 05:43 PM
- - spotlite   I'd say if you have 2 smartlinks implanted and...   Nov 4 2003, 06:02 PM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) The best part about dual SMGs w...   Nov 4 2003, 06:04 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Issues of Time. ~J, still learning proper gun ter...   Nov 4 2003, 06:16 PM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Issues of Time. ~J, still lear...   Nov 4 2003, 06:34 PM
- - spotlite   ok seige, I'll bite - what's wrong with cl...   Nov 4 2003, 06:39 PM
- - Siege   Technically that rectangular metal box that holds ...   Nov 4 2003, 06:44 PM
- - Ed_209a   A clip is a piece of metal that grips the back end...   Nov 4 2003, 06:47 PM
- - Bearclaw   Nice, I was going to say that. We all got that ter...   Nov 4 2003, 06:59 PM
- - Req   So is there a special name for an internal magazin...   Nov 4 2003, 07:05 PM
- - Bearclaw   I don't think so. The clip in question is the ...   Nov 4 2003, 07:08 PM
- - spotlite   OK, thanks. Interesting bit of trivia!   Nov 4 2003, 10:23 PM
- - Shadow   QUOTE (spotlite @ Nov 4 2003, 09:02 AM) Botto...   Nov 5 2003, 12:12 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Siege) It's a Hollywood-ism that has be...   Nov 5 2003, 01:12 AM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (Siege @ Nov 5 2003, 04...   Nov 5 2003, 02:07 AM
- - Tziluthi   Shadow, seeing that this is the thread for pedanti...   Nov 5 2003, 03:03 AM
- - Shadow   QUOTE (Tziluthi) Shadow, seeing that this is the t...   Nov 5 2003, 03:05 AM
- - Zazen   QUOTE (PlutoNick) Still, I prove that the GM inste...   Nov 5 2003, 03:18 AM
- - Nindaru   QUOTE (Zazen @ Nov 4 2003, 10:18 PM) QUOTE (P...   Nov 5 2003, 03:38 AM
- - Shadow   Nindaru, If I am not mistaken, Zazen had the [/sa...   Nov 5 2003, 03:45 AM
- - Nindaru   Damnit! Why do I always miss the /sarcasm tag...   Nov 5 2003, 03:48 AM
- - TinkerGnome   QUOTE (Nindaru) Damnit! Why do I always miss ...   Nov 5 2003, 04:28 AM
- - Tanka   Hardly. Invisible ink!   Nov 5 2003, 04:36 AM
- - Nindaru   Ok, should I assume you are being sarcastic as wel...   Nov 5 2003, 04:53 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Nindaru) Ok, should I assume you are being ...   Nov 5 2003, 05:23 AM
- - Nindaru   Ack! More BIG words! Blast my shallow vo...   Nov 5 2003, 06:22 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Tziluthi) Shadow, seeing that this is the t...   Nov 5 2003, 07:41 AM
- - Fortune   Now that's pedantic!   Nov 5 2003, 07:42 AM
- - Birdy   QUOTE (Bearclaw) I don't think so. The clip in...   Nov 5 2003, 11:48 AM
- - tisoz   I don't see the price for a magazine in any of...   Nov 5 2003, 02:27 PM
- - DigitalMage   Doesn't SR use the term Clip to refer to a rem...   Nov 5 2003, 03:50 PM
- - Req   Those are the correct terms according to SR3.   Nov 5 2003, 04:04 PM
- - spotlite   QUOTE (Shadow) QUOTE (spotlite @ Nov 4 2003, ...   Nov 5 2003, 04:15 PM
- - PlutoNick   QUOTE (Nindaru) QUOTE (Zazen @ Nov 4 2003, 10...   Nov 6 2003, 08:47 PM


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