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Lorka
post May 2 2007, 07:17 PM
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I stumbled on this paragraph: Wi-Fi Detection its on page 256.

It say that security will more likely than not be scanning for hidden networks, since an unknow hidden network equals an intruder.

Now this seems reasonable, in fact having seen it, I cannot imagine matrix security not doing something like this.

Now scanning for hidden networks in generel is on page 225 under Detecting Wireless Networks: Electronic Warfare + Scan (15+, 1 Combat Turn).

Lets say you have an automated system with good rating concidering a starting or low Karma team that would be a dice pool of 8. Lets just do the convert to hits meaning 2 hits each combat turn. So after 8 combat turns the system have found and possibly triangulated the location of the intruders.

In other words do to this rules you either have to hack into the system and stop the scanning or you will fail unless you can do the run in 8 combat turns or less.

Now you can also choose to go primitive and not use any Wi-Fi at all and more and more points me into the direction that Shadowrunners should use no Wi-Fi in most cases.

Any comments, something I have misunderstood?
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- Lorka   Wi-Fi Detection to easy?   May 2 2007, 07:17 PM
- - Bigity   I would imagine the scanning is not done every com...   May 2 2007, 07:21 PM
- - Lorka   Hmm what sounds reasonable, if it generates 2 hits...   May 2 2007, 07:27 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Bigity) as you are just eating up resources...   May 2 2007, 07:46 PM
- - 2bit   actually Lorka it just says scanning for local net...   May 2 2007, 07:52 PM
- - Bigity   Actually, I would still have highly secure sites p...   May 2 2007, 07:56 PM
- - 2bit   But seriously, the problem is just that the test i...   May 2 2007, 07:57 PM
- - Demon_Bob   Always wondered why a infiltration team would be c...   May 2 2007, 08:03 PM
- - 2bit   yeah, good points. For my taste, the flavor is -...   May 2 2007, 08:15 PM
- - Thane36425   Since most intruders would probably be roaming aro...   May 2 2007, 08:34 PM
- - Lorka   Well ok so you all agree its better to go with out...   May 2 2007, 08:43 PM
- - Dread Polack   Well, when a PC scans for hidden nodes, for the mo...   May 2 2007, 09:18 PM
- - mfb   realistically, scanning for hidden networks should...   May 2 2007, 09:25 PM
- - Cheops   You could also say that if you wanted to scan for ...   May 2 2007, 11:27 PM
- - WhiskeyMac   To stay in touch just use the Micro-Transceiver. F...   May 2 2007, 11:53 PM
- - hobgoblin   Big question is, how noisy is the building after h...   May 3 2007, 12:09 AM
- - Thane36425   QUOTE (hobgoblin) Big question is, how noisy is th...   May 3 2007, 12:23 AM
- - hobgoblin   Still, unless everything is turned off, And i do m...   May 3 2007, 01:38 AM
- - WhiskeyMac   I just had an idea. If the guards communicate usin...   May 3 2007, 03:09 AM
- - hobgoblin   given that real life wifi works not on so much a s...   May 3 2007, 03:14 AM
- - KarmaInferno   I'd hazard a guess that some 'runners woul...   May 3 2007, 03:14 AM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 3 2007, 03:14 AM) give...   May 3 2007, 04:04 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Bigity) I would imagine the scanning is not...   May 3 2007, 04:10 AM
- - hobgoblin   no, what i assume is that wifi in SR behaves at le...   May 3 2007, 04:11 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac @ May 2 2007, 10:09 PM) I j...   May 3 2007, 07:30 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb @ May 3 2007, 09:30 AM) yeah, but ...   May 3 2007, 09:23 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ May 3 2007, 09:23...   May 3 2007, 09:47 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   You mean like two access points set at the same ch...   May 3 2007, 09:52 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) You mean like two acces...   May 3 2007, 09:54 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   That's not really the question. The question i...   May 3 2007, 10:24 AM
- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) And if you cut into ano...   May 3 2007, 11:14 AM
- - KarmaInferno   In any building a 'runner is likely to be hitt...   May 3 2007, 11:55 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Sure, though it only keeps the extended test threa...   May 3 2007, 12:25 PM
- - Lorka   If you are on a run in a place with alot of differ...   May 3 2007, 05:07 PM
- - hobgoblin   the more i think about it there more i feel like t...   May 3 2007, 05:24 PM
- - Nostalgic Jester   WhiskeyMac wrote: QUOTE To stay in touch just...   May 4 2007, 12:38 PM
- - Spike   Way back when I first got ahold of the MRB for SR4...   May 4 2007, 04:43 PM
- - hobgoblin   first of, the chair would not know you where there...   May 4 2007, 05:37 PM
- - 2bit   and that is why corporate installations dry clean ...   May 4 2007, 05:44 PM
- - Shev   Man, if a wet dog disrupts a signal, what effect d...   May 4 2007, 06:22 PM
- - Spike   Hob: I'm not going to disagree with you about...   May 4 2007, 07:25 PM
- - hobgoblin   for the PAN there is skinlink. sure one could prob...   May 4 2007, 07:59 PM
- - 2bit   unless the spider's off playing in his VR boxi...   May 4 2007, 08:14 PM
- - hobgoblin   thats always a chance   May 4 2007, 08:15 PM
- - Spike   Hob: Agreed, Skinlinking is a means around some of...   May 4 2007, 08:38 PM
- - hobgoblin   and yet the grunts run around with automatic weapo...   May 4 2007, 09:02 PM
- - Spike   I am not referring to the opening story. I'm r...   May 4 2007, 09:31 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Spike) Having worked in 'secure zones...   May 4 2007, 11:02 PM
- - Spike   KZT: Exactly. A secondary concern for technosav...   May 4 2007, 11:55 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Spike @ May 4 2007, 04:55 PM) Now I...   May 5 2007, 04:30 AM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (kzt) QUOTE (Spike @ May 4 2007, 02:31 ...   May 5 2007, 04:04 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, could it be that the comlinks carried in the ...   May 6 2007, 07:45 PM
- - Aaron   QUOTE (hobgoblin) hmm, could it be that the comlin...   May 6 2007, 09:20 PM
- - Bigity   I don't know. You take this sterile idea too ...   May 7 2007, 05:53 PM
- - hobgoblin   it seems some people liked that version...   May 7 2007, 08:49 PM
- - Spike   QUOTE (Bigity) I don't know. You take this st...   May 7 2007, 10:52 PM
- - Aaron   QUOTE (Spike) Riggers with drones are a problem, p...   May 8 2007, 12:27 AM
- - hobgoblin   given that drone can work on its own, give it a st...   May 8 2007, 01:05 AM
- - 2bit   that's a bit of a knee-jerk response!   May 8 2007, 01:10 AM
- - Aaron   And one for the CLUE files. I'd love to see w...   May 8 2007, 02:10 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Spike) Riggers with drones are a problem, p...   May 8 2007, 02:53 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Spike) Riggers with drones are a problem, p...   May 8 2007, 07:41 AM
- - mfb   hey! sitting in a van controlling an army isn...   May 8 2007, 07:52 AM
- - Spike   A 425kw diesel generator is a bit too big for the ...   May 8 2007, 03:39 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Spike) Now, my understanding of 'real l...   May 9 2007, 03:52 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Just look at the Wavebubble.   May 9 2007, 04:03 PM
- - mfb   re: barrage jamming, you can actually do it and le...   May 9 2007, 04:10 PM
- - Cheops   I think the 425 kW jammer was just thrown out ther...   May 9 2007, 04:59 PM
- - mfb   i don't know the details about what you have t...   May 9 2007, 06:36 PM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (mfb) hey! sitting in a van controlling ...   May 10 2007, 02:15 AM
- - silentmaster101   a mage running extended mindnet off a sustaining f...   May 10 2007, 04:07 PM
- - hobgoblin   ah yes, more power to the mages. still, there are...   May 10 2007, 05:07 PM
- - DireRadiant   Mana static....   May 10 2007, 06:12 PM
- - Dashifen   Nah, just a Task spirit with an Electronic Warfare...   May 10 2007, 06:27 PM
- - hobgoblin   oh ye gods, what a thought...   May 10 2007, 06:41 PM
- - Fix-it   is that allowable, under rules? serious question.   May 10 2007, 11:00 PM
- - Cheops   Yes   May 11 2007, 01:31 AM
- - Nocturne   Er... A task spirit with EW skill is fine and all...   May 11 2007, 12:41 PM
- - Dashifen   Hence the face. That being said, I don't see...   May 11 2007, 02:06 PM
- - Demon_Bob   QUOTE (hobgoblin) given that drone can work on its...   May 11 2007, 03:44 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Demon_Bob) QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 7 20...   May 11 2007, 04:28 PM
- - Nocturne   QUOTE (Dashifen)Hence the face.  That being ...   May 11 2007, 04:58 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Nocturne) QUOTE (Dashifen)Hence the face....   May 11 2007, 05:17 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hobgoblin) or does spirits assense all the ...   May 11 2007, 05:40 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (hobgoblin ...   May 11 2007, 06:00 PM
- - Cheops   According to the FAQ spirits and the like can inte...   May 11 2007, 06:06 PM
- - hobgoblin   well, i guess i stand corrected   May 11 2007, 06:09 PM
- - Therumancer   Actually it's been my experience that most GMs...   May 13 2007, 04:00 AM
- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (Therumancer) Actually it's been my expe...   May 13 2007, 04:49 AM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Therumancer) Actually it's been my expe...   May 14 2007, 08:44 AM


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