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post May 5 2007, 03:08 PM
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Hi I am about to jump back into shadowrun last time I ran or played was when 3rd edition had just come out. I have a few questions about different things with 4th, I search the forums and didn't see the answers so I will ask here.

Character Creation> Why would anyone play a human except for role-play reasons, every race gives you bonus ability scores, increases the max for those abilities, and some other goodies like low-light vision? Anytime I would make a character that was a good idea as a human why not be an Elf and get +2 Cha and +1 Agi ? And the point cost to play a race doesn't reduce the max 200 points on abilities.

Is this a real problem are there any quick fixes? I thought of making people pay for race out of the 200 build points for abilities, or applying the max attribute penalty as a negative to the ability?

Skill requirements> Just like how you can only spend 200 BP on abilities I think that setting a requirement on skills like you have to spend at least 100BP on skills.

Group skills> Why on earth is something that gives extra dice to only 3-4 skills cost the same at creation to raise as an ability score that gives you the same extra dice to all skills linked to that attribute? And again why is it more expensive with Karma to increase it?

My fix to that is to keep the BP the same (after all you can only have so many ability score increases) but use group skills as a creation tool only, after creation or during (for specialization, or making one in group a 5 or 6) they are counted as separate skills to increase.

Gear> Contact lenses and glasses, why can someone buy a pair of contacts that does everything and it fits all OK but adding extras to cybereyes costs more essence. Essentially why don't glasses (ect.) have a capacity rating max?

Crossbows, what is the rate of fire SA or SS? It takes a free action to reload one not a simple so can I fire one twice? Isn't an arrow or bolt that does 7P+hits that can also deliver a 10S drug something that everyone would use? I mean why shoot a shotgun for 7S -1 AP when a crossbow can do 10 extra stun?

Thanks in advance for help and sorry for so many things on one post but figured it was better then 4 or so different posts.
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- Cyberwyrm   Hello, a few questions/ideas   May 5 2007, 03:08 PM
- - BrandedBandit   many people like humans because they get extra edg...   May 5 2007, 03:22 PM
- - Nocturne   Re: Character Creation and Race If this bothers yo...   May 5 2007, 03:30 PM
- - Shev   Welcome back! I'm still adjusting to Four...   May 5 2007, 03:31 PM
- - Whipstitch   [EDITED FOR MASSIVE SPAM REDUCTION] Seriously, tha...   May 5 2007, 03:50 PM
- - Wasabi   Weird... crossbows dont seem to have a ROF listed....   May 5 2007, 04:18 PM
- - knasser   Crossbows are about as concealable as an erection ...   May 5 2007, 04:31 PM
- - Jaid   poison also generally doesn't take effect imme...   May 5 2007, 05:27 PM
- - Wasabi   QUOTE (knasser) poison crossbow bolts are a giant ...   May 5 2007, 05:28 PM
- - Wasabi   QUOTE (Jaid) there's lots of drawbacks to the ...   May 5 2007, 05:30 PM
- - Cpt_Machine   I seriously think that changing character gen rule...   May 5 2007, 05:38 PM
- - Ravor   Well personally I've never liked contacts, and...   May 5 2007, 05:56 PM
- - Cyberwyrm   Thanks for all the feedback from everyone. Lookin...   May 5 2007, 10:34 PM
- - hobgoblin   One thing about external vision aids, they can be ...   May 6 2007, 12:08 AM
- - toturi   The nice thing for the GM about the contacts and g...   May 6 2007, 01:04 AM
- - DireRadiant   The (Hu)Man is always putting the metas down. Alwa...   May 6 2007, 01:26 AM
- - odinson   QUOTE (Cyberwyrm) Character Creation> Why would...   May 6 2007, 03:00 AM
- - WhiskeyMac   Humans cost no extra BP to play and are considered...   May 6 2007, 03:26 AM
- - Wasabi   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac) Elves get bonuses and the only ...   May 6 2007, 06:27 AM
- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac) Humans cost no extra BP to play...   May 6 2007, 06:56 AM
- - odinson   Elves are balanced and overrated. They cost 30bp...   May 6 2007, 07:06 AM
- - DireRadiant   Characters are more then a set of numbers.   May 6 2007, 04:09 PM
- - Crusher Bob   If you want to try some alternate character genera...   May 6 2007, 04:22 PM
- - Glyph   Elves are nice and all, but you get basically two ...   May 6 2007, 08:14 PM
- - ElFenrir   And as mentioned, the ork is pretty much the min m...   May 6 2007, 08:28 PM
- - Glyph   One thing to keep in mind is that dwarves, orks, a...   May 8 2007, 02:51 AM
- - Aaron   Magicians, too. An Ork magician with the right tra...   May 8 2007, 03:07 AM
- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (ElFenrir @ May 6 2007, 03:28 PM) Dwarv...   May 8 2007, 05:38 AM
- - Pyritefoolsgold   Having a high body counts for a lot, too. Stacked ...   May 8 2007, 07:12 AM
- - Cheops   Here's my take on this: Humans: don't cos...   May 9 2007, 02:51 PM
- - deek   Yeah, I wanted to mention the same thing Cheops di...   May 9 2007, 03:39 PM
- - odinson   how about having the contact fall out at bad times...   May 9 2007, 04:27 PM
- - Cheops   Actually even worse is if the contact doesn't ...   May 9 2007, 04:53 PM
- - ElFenrir   Hehe...this is pretty interesting...in our games s...   May 9 2007, 05:08 PM
- - X-Kalibur   I've always had it set up so that if I wasn...   May 9 2007, 05:24 PM
- - Whipstitch   Contacts shouldn't be melting to anyone'e ...   May 9 2007, 09:12 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   As a sidenote, contects actually protect the eyes ...   May 9 2007, 10:51 PM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, I've heard that before too, never really...   May 10 2007, 12:18 AM


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