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I've had a couple questions about various militarys in the Shadowrun world. The UCAS is my primary concern, though information on the Tir Tariengire, CAS, and CFS would be appreciated. I'm looking for the following information:

Equipment:
Sidearms
Assault Rifles
Sub-Machine Guns
Shotguns

Organization:
Ranking System (Paygrades)
Structure of Services
Services
Structure of Regiments, Ships, etc.
Uniform Descriptions

This is my first post here, and I hope I can get information here that I haven't been able to get elsewhere. Thanks!

-capt20
"Lieutenant Rheiv Jyden" SR: Seattle MUSH
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- capt20   Military Organization, Equipment, etc.   Nov 11 2003, 09:59 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   I haven't got CC, SOTA63, SoNA, or older books...   Nov 11 2003, 12:58 PM
- - Siege   Hasn't someone compiled a military list for SR...   Nov 11 2003, 01:59 PM
- - TheOneRonin   http://www.geocities.com/flanker562/ Eric Johnson...   Nov 11 2003, 02:13 PM
- - easytohate   I would figure mage to fall under a special office...   Nov 11 2003, 04:00 PM
- - Ed_209a   My guess is that mages would be Warrant Officers. ...   Nov 11 2003, 04:06 PM
- - Pthgar   Well, Doctors and Chaplains are mostly non-combat,...   Nov 11 2003, 04:20 PM
- - Pthgar   Oh, I forgot, in our games only special forces get...   Nov 11 2003, 04:25 PM
- - Hero   Ammunition for some submachine guns are going towa...   Nov 11 2003, 05:05 PM
- - TheOneRonin   Hero, the HK 227 is not a real weapon, it's a ...   Nov 11 2003, 05:32 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Oh yes, the P90/MP7 line of discussion has been do...   Nov 11 2003, 05:48 PM
- - Hero   Ooops.   Nov 11 2003, 05:52 PM
- - TheOneRonin   I wish I could call it a typo. Rather I was typin...   Nov 11 2003, 06:00 PM
- - capt20   *laughs* Man, started this so I could figure out w...   Nov 11 2003, 07:06 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   OOPS! So it seems it is canon that the UCAS Ar...   Nov 11 2003, 07:15 PM
- - easytohate   UCAS Air Force new MOS's for specialized Troop...   Nov 11 2003, 07:20 PM
- - TheOneRonin   Well, as for pistols, I doubt UCAS grunts would ca...   Nov 11 2003, 07:29 PM
- - capt20   Alright, so all the mage and decker stuff is well ...   Nov 11 2003, 08:45 PM
- - Seville   QUOTE (Pthgar) Oh, I forgot, in our games only spe...   Nov 11 2003, 08:49 PM
- - TheOneRonin   QUOTE (capt20) Alright, so all the mage and decker...   Nov 11 2003, 09:17 PM
- - capt20   QUOTE Yeah...if I recall, the Air Force already ha...   Nov 11 2003, 10:25 PM
- - Nath   QUOTE (capt20 @ Nov 12 2003, 12:25 AM) QUOTE ...   Nov 11 2003, 10:37 PM
- - 6thDragon   there was a SR novel dealing with the military. I...   Nov 11 2003, 10:54 PM
- - easytohate   Intel and counter intel done in a combat area...   Nov 11 2003, 10:57 PM
- - FlakJacket   Well from Big City and Brainscan army grunts have ...   Nov 11 2003, 11:16 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (capt20) QUOTE ...the Street Samurai Guide.....   Nov 11 2003, 11:39 PM
- - easytohate   Post removed   Nov 12 2003, 12:08 AM
- - Fortune   Not to belabor the point, but I believe you'll...   Nov 12 2003, 12:30 AM
- - easytohate   PR   Nov 12 2003, 12:45 AM
- - capt20   QUOTE No cyberware for the enlisted since it just ...   Nov 12 2003, 03:14 AM
- - capt20   QUOTE Then is is not covered under the law and can...   Nov 12 2003, 03:18 AM
- - Siege   Datajacks are cheap and relatively common. Which ...   Nov 12 2003, 04:01 AM
- - FlakJacket   You call a grand, plus implant costs, cheap? Serio...   Nov 12 2003, 04:11 AM
- - Siege   A grand -- SI cost makes it cheaper than that. ...   Nov 12 2003, 04:21 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (6thDragon)there was a SR novel dealing with...   Nov 12 2003, 07:01 AM
- - capt20   If it was mentioned in Sourcebooks, then thats wha...   Nov 12 2003, 07:59 AM
- - Siege   Mages may not be common enough to outfit each squa...   Nov 12 2003, 03:07 PM
- - TheOneRonin   I agree with Siege. Canon aside, I would see mage...   Nov 12 2003, 03:41 PM
- - Pthgar   Okay, I knew I'd seen it somewhere. The adven...   Nov 12 2003, 04:13 PM
- - moosegod   I think Mages are inserted directly in the line of...   Nov 12 2003, 10:33 PM
- - Siege   Being magically active doesn't confer the abil...   Nov 12 2003, 10:35 PM
- - moosegod   Hence the supernumerary. Mages have to be able to...   Nov 12 2003, 10:38 PM
- - Pthgar   A college education doesn't mean you'll be...   Nov 13 2003, 05:27 PM
- - Ed_209a   QUOTE (capt20) QUOTE Then is is not covered under ...   Nov 13 2003, 06:18 PM
- - capt20   I removed it buddy. I removed it, I apologized for...   Nov 13 2003, 06:32 PM
- - Ed_209a   Actually, I thought it was a valid question from t...   Nov 13 2003, 07:55 PM
- - Siege   A college degree implies a certain capacity to thi...   Nov 14 2003, 11:58 AM
- - Pthgar   Okay, I'll give. Mages need not be officers. ...   Nov 14 2003, 04:40 PM
- - easytohate   QUOTE (Siege) It would be like promoting officer...   Nov 15 2003, 12:56 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Well, I have serious doubts about why mages wouldn...   Nov 15 2003, 01:58 AM
- - moosegod   Unless they are shamans. Although military servic...   Nov 15 2003, 02:03 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Yeah, but I don't think that informally traine...   Nov 15 2003, 02:14 AM
- - Kanada Ten   Shamans have universities and studies, and so on. ...   Nov 15 2003, 02:19 AM
- - moosegod   I still stand by mages being automatically officer...   Nov 15 2003, 04:51 AM
- - Siege   Easy: And every grunt has to be reasonably intell...   Nov 15 2003, 06:48 AM
- - Digital Heroin   QUOTE (Siege) Being magically active doesn't c...   Nov 15 2003, 07:12 AM
- - Seville   Hey Siege... in the Air Force, what's the diff...   Nov 15 2003, 08:32 AM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Digital Heroin) QUOTE (Siege @ Nov 12 ...   Nov 15 2003, 01:03 PM
- - moosegod   Auuugghh!!!! They're supernum...   Nov 15 2003, 07:59 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Siege) Good point -- now, would a lawyer or...   Nov 15 2003, 09:59 PM
- - easytohate   Directing troops in combat as very little to do wi...   Nov 15 2003, 10:49 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Kanada Ten)Shamans have universities and st...   Nov 15 2003, 11:43 PM
- - moosegod   Marines. Keep the Army to hold the Ground, the Ai...   Nov 16 2003, 12:23 AM
- - Pistons   QUOTE (easytohate) Doctors, most of them being Lt....   Nov 17 2003, 02:19 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   ...and the acting doctor responsible of the regime...   Nov 17 2003, 02:58 PM
- - capt20   I think were all underestimating how /highly/ an e...   Nov 19 2003, 07:28 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Well, aside from training? Lawyers have 3 years of...   Nov 22 2003, 01:43 AM
- - Siege   Cause you could train almost anyone to fly with en...   Nov 22 2003, 02:09 AM
- - Diesel   Only airplanes. Helos are a whole 'nother sto...   Nov 22 2003, 02:11 AM
- - Siege   Completely unrelated to the current drift of the t...   Nov 23 2003, 12:11 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   True. I did mean airplanes, lest any Warrant Offic...   Nov 24 2003, 01:36 AM
- - mfb   i dunno. i mean, yeah, in a perfect world, all you...   Nov 24 2003, 02:12 AM
- - Nath   QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) The M-16 had trouble in Ir...   Nov 24 2003, 05:01 PM
- - Siege   Interesting, considering the Army's study clai...   Nov 24 2003, 06:14 PM
- - mfb   ...how is changing from the m-16 to the m-4 going ...   Nov 24 2003, 10:33 PM
- - Siege   I don't think the M-4 is more reliable, but it...   Nov 24 2003, 10:37 PM
- - paladin   M4 is limited to 3 round bursts. The M4A1 is the ...   Nov 24 2003, 11:24 PM
- - capt20   I've heard some rumors of the Army switching o...   Nov 26 2003, 10:01 PM
- - Pthgar   Your thinking of the XM-8 (to be the M-8 when adop...   Nov 27 2003, 03:43 PM
- - Hero   Oh, for those that wanted the military ranks I hav...   Dec 2 2003, 08:22 AM
- - capt20   Outstanding. Now I'm looking for more of an al...   Dec 2 2003, 04:05 PM
- - Hero   No problem, I figure most nations would follow thi...   Dec 2 2003, 05:18 PM
- - moosegod   The Tir nations would probably translate it into S...   Dec 2 2003, 05:20 PM
- - TinkerGnome   You mean here and here? The base pay (lowest pay ...   Dec 2 2003, 05:23 PM
- - Birdy   German system (MET/2000, SaederKrupp) is nice: En...   Dec 2 2003, 07:15 PM
- - capt20   Thats not exactly the best help, but it was someth...   Dec 2 2003, 11:19 PM
- - Birdy   QUOTE (capt20) Thats not exactly the best help, bu...   Dec 3 2003, 07:20 PM
- - capt20   At about 0325 Pacific time, I have heard unconfirm...   Dec 14 2003, 11:45 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Wow, that was completely unnecessary. Onto someth...   Dec 15 2003, 02:46 AM
- - capt20   Good Point. Because theres not big combat doesn...   Dec 15 2003, 08:16 AM
- - Pthgar   Don't forget that the UCAS has a much more tou...   Dec 15 2003, 03:50 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Well, I'd like to ephasize official. How often...   Dec 16 2003, 02:54 AM
- - FlakJacket   IIRC, Target: Wastelands mentioned that government...   Dec 16 2003, 05:50 AM
- - Pthgar   Well, how likely is all out war any way? The mili...   Dec 16 2003, 04:16 PM


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