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Dancer
post Jul 31 2007, 09:24 AM
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Say I want to get past a receptionist, so I hack his datajack/internal commlink/'trode net and subscribe my (hotsim equipped) commlink. I then run a personafix that makes him very trusting and gullible, sell him a story about forgetting my ID code, and cover my electronic traces as I walk away.

In other situations I use other 'fixes. If I'm intimidating someone I make them a spineless coward. If I need to get information out of someone I turn them into a garrolous sot.

1) Is this possible?
2) Could a Personafix include a prohibition against noticing the fact that you've been fixed?
3) What sort of bonus would be applied to social tests after installing a suitable moodchip/personafix on somebody?
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- Dancer   Brainhacking   Jul 31 2007, 09:24 AM
- - Blade   1) It's possible through datajack and trode ne...   Jul 31 2007, 09:39 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   With the Sim Module now a seperate box, it does no...   Jul 31 2007, 10:06 AM
- - MaxHunter   I like it! Where's unwired when I need it...   Jul 31 2007, 11:34 AM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) With the Sim Module now...   Jul 31 2007, 12:24 PM
- - Blade   As I said, it matters a bit because you need to se...   Jul 31 2007, 12:45 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Blade) As I said, it matters a bit because ...   Jul 31 2007, 01:22 PM
- - Cadmus   Well we know who's been watching ghost in a sh...   Jul 31 2007, 01:31 PM
- - Buster   QUOTE (Dancer) QUOTE (Blade @ Jul 31 2007, 12...   Jul 31 2007, 01:44 PM
- - hobgoblin   they wonder what effect a cold-sim (the default) m...   Jul 31 2007, 01:48 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Buster) Can't you just hack in through ...   Jul 31 2007, 01:54 PM
- - Buster   You do need a hot/illegal sim module to play BTLs ...   Jul 31 2007, 01:58 PM
- - Blade   I guess you can route a BTL stream through the Mat...   Jul 31 2007, 02:07 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Blade) I guess you can route a BTL stream t...   Jul 31 2007, 02:11 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (Blade) I guess you can route a BTL stream t...   Jul 31 2007, 02:27 PM
- - Blade   @Dancer: Maybe I wasn't clear enough, or my En...   Jul 31 2007, 02:31 PM
- - Backgammon   You could do like they do in GitS and plug your ow...   Jul 31 2007, 02:43 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, handshake upload of agent...   Jul 31 2007, 02:46 PM
- - Dancer   I think I could fry someone's brain from 100km...   Jul 31 2007, 02:51 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (Dancer) An implanted commlink with an unmod...   Jul 31 2007, 02:54 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (Blade @ Jul 31 2007, 09:31 AM) The pro...   Jul 31 2007, 02:58 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Rifleman) The problem is that the sim modul...   Jul 31 2007, 02:59 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (NightmareX) Couldn't that problem be su...   Jul 31 2007, 03:02 PM
- - Backgammon   Here's a thought - is a hotsim a software or h...   Jul 31 2007, 03:06 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Dancer) QUOTE (NightmareX @ Jul 31 200...   Jul 31 2007, 03:06 PM
- - Dancer   It's hardware. See the sim module description ...   Jul 31 2007, 03:07 PM
- - Blade   Intra Pan. It doesn't make sense to have it ac...   Jul 31 2007, 03:08 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   It takes time and Hardware Skill.   Jul 31 2007, 03:08 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (Dancer) Yep. But your commlink will need to...   Jul 31 2007, 03:13 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (NightmareX) QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 31 200...   Jul 31 2007, 03:17 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   In my game, I would rule (for sanity's sake) t...   Jul 31 2007, 03:24 PM
- - Wakshaani   Well, there's a few issues. First of all, a Pe...   Jul 31 2007, 03:28 PM
- - Dancer   What you say is true for moodchips. But a P-Fix ca...   Jul 31 2007, 03:31 PM
- - Backgammon   Your reason are good and flaourful, but I think sk...   Jul 31 2007, 03:31 PM
- - hyzmarca   If you're going to personafix a receptionist, ...   Jul 31 2007, 03:38 PM
- - Backgammon   New evil idea of the minute: What if you simply g...   Jul 31 2007, 03:42 PM
- - Blade   Just like in the A-Team: "Here take this pen,...   Jul 31 2007, 03:45 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (Dancer) I'm reasonably certain that the...   Jul 31 2007, 03:45 PM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (Backgammon) What if you simply got the hots...   Jul 31 2007, 03:46 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Backgammon) New evil idea of the minute: W...   Jul 31 2007, 03:47 PM
- - Blade   QUOTE (NightmareX) And, for what it's worth, I...   Jul 31 2007, 03:50 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Dancer) I'm reasonably certain that the...   Jul 31 2007, 03:54 PM
- - Dancer   I think we're going to need a developed answer...   Jul 31 2007, 04:00 PM
- - Blade   Except that the commlink will not be able to deal ...   Jul 31 2007, 04:08 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (Dancer @ Ju...   Jul 31 2007, 04:08 PM
- - neko128   QUOTE (Backgammon) QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig ...   Jul 31 2007, 04:18 PM
- - Dancer   You wouldn't neccesarily need to be using a si...   Jul 31 2007, 04:20 PM
- - Buster   QUOTE (Backgammon @ Jul 31 2007, 11:08 AM) Ha...   Jul 31 2007, 04:30 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Buster) QUOTE (Backgammon @ Jul 31 200...   Jul 31 2007, 04:33 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   You can't just 'send somebody hot sim...   Jul 31 2007, 04:33 PM
- - hobgoblin   i was under the impression that hot sim comes as m...   Jul 31 2007, 04:37 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 31 2007, 11:20 AM) You wo...   Jul 31 2007, 04:38 PM
- - hobgoblin   it does not say anywhere that a handshake would do...   Jul 31 2007, 04:44 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (hobgoblin) it does not say anywhere that a ...   Jul 31 2007, 04:49 PM
- - hobgoblin   no it would work on skin alone. thats why i pointe...   Jul 31 2007, 04:53 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jul 31 2007, 11:53 AM) no ...   Jul 31 2007, 05:02 PM
- - Ravor   A couple of thoughts after reading this thread: H...   Jul 31 2007, 05:15 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Actually, it's a modulation of the EM-field of...   Jul 31 2007, 05:15 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Ravor) A couple of thoughts after reading t...   Jul 31 2007, 05:23 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   A person getting skinlinked hacked might notice a ...   Jul 31 2007, 05:26 PM
- - neko128   QUOTE (Dancer) You wouldn't neccesarily need t...   Jul 31 2007, 05:27 PM
- - Ravor   Sure, when your skinlink connects with theirs they...   Jul 31 2007, 05:32 PM
- - hobgoblin   question is, how long does a handshake last, and h...   Jul 31 2007, 05:42 PM
- - Ravor   I can't speak for other parts of the country/w...   Jul 31 2007, 05:50 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   I know that if I were a corporate business-man, wi...   Jul 31 2007, 05:58 PM
- - Buster   QUOTE (Ravor) I can't speak for other parts of...   Jul 31 2007, 06:37 PM
- - odinson   Do datajacks actually have wireless capability? I ...   Jul 31 2007, 06:39 PM
- - Ravor   Sure, datajacks are intra-pan devices so they have...   Jul 31 2007, 06:42 PM
- - Ravor   Also something to consider is that if you upload a...   Jul 31 2007, 06:43 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Ravor) Also something to consider is that i...   Jul 31 2007, 06:50 PM
- - Ravor   Considering how system load works in the Sixth Wor...   Jul 31 2007, 06:55 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (neko128) QUOTE (Dancer @ Jul 31 2007, ...   Jul 31 2007, 07:03 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (Ravor) Sure, datajacks are intra-pan device...   Jul 31 2007, 07:05 PM
- - Ravor   Umm, unless AUG changed something that I missed, a...   Jul 31 2007, 07:09 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Sure. But since it's wireless access, you can ...   Jul 31 2007, 07:14 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Ravor) Umm, unless AUG changed something th...   Jul 31 2007, 07:14 PM
- - Jaid   there is a statement somewhere that simsense must ...   Jul 31 2007, 07:38 PM
- - Ravor   And whenever the rules aren't clear we have th...   Jul 31 2007, 07:46 PM
- - Jaid   more or less total silence on a given subject cann...   Jul 31 2007, 07:57 PM
- - Ravor   I disagree when that something would be "worl...   Jul 31 2007, 08:01 PM
- - Rifleman   QUOTE (Jaid @ Jul 31 2007, 02:57 PM) more or ...   Jul 31 2007, 08:06 PM
- - Jaid   this tactic isn't necessarily all that "w...   Jul 31 2007, 09:13 PM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Ravor) Umm, unless AUG changed something th...   Aug 1 2007, 01:29 AM
- - Adarael   Okay. I'm gonna weigh in here, and I know I...   Aug 1 2007, 01:30 AM
- - Dancer   Excellent points. I think that you are right. The...   Aug 1 2007, 02:16 AM
- - Fortune   How exactly do you deactivate/disable the piece of...   Aug 1 2007, 02:41 AM
- - Dancer   QUOTE (Fortune) How exactly do you deactivate/disa...   Aug 1 2007, 02:44 AM
- - Fortune   AR is Simsense! While you don't need a Sim...   Aug 1 2007, 02:48 AM
- - Adarael   Yeah, Dancer. That's pretty much the way I sca...   Aug 1 2007, 02:50 AM
- - Ravor   Umm, you are mistaken about this not being a ...   Aug 1 2007, 03:58 AM
- - Dancer   But considering a datajack needs to connect to you...   Aug 1 2007, 04:03 AM
- - Ravor   I totally agree with everything you just said Danc...   Aug 1 2007, 04:11 AM
- - Xenith   Had you played some Shadowrun Missions (referring ...   Aug 1 2007, 04:20 AM
- - Ravor   Yeah, I also remember reading something about a ...   Aug 1 2007, 04:28 AM
- - PlatonicPimp   Look, IF you can override a user's own sim-mod...   Aug 1 2007, 04:33 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) Here's my question. If a ...   Aug 1 2007, 04:43 AM
- - PlatonicPimp   So shadowrunners should know better, fool, and kid...   Aug 1 2007, 04:55 AM
- - Ravor   I disagree PlatonicPimp, because if it were really...   Aug 1 2007, 04:59 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Ravor)I disagree PlatonicPimp, because if i...   Aug 1 2007, 09:40 AM
- - NightmareX   QUOTE (Backgammon) Hackers being able to kill anyo...   Aug 1 2007, 09:53 AM
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