 Technomancers and Initiative Passes, Totally shafted? Hmm, yep. |
 Aug 5 2007, 08:31 PM
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So, I want to make a Technomancer for this game I'm playing in. Our team is only two people big, so we each get 450 BP to work with, which is just fine, as technomancers are painfully starved for build points and Karma. But anyway, I want him to be able to hack well without slumping down on the floor all the time. Now, since while working with AR you move at meat speeds, that means he needs better reflexes. But here's the thing: technomancers have no way to get better reflexes. Mages can cast Increase Reflexes. Adepts can buy Increase Reflexes. Anyone else can undergo everyone's favorite extremely, painfully invasive cybernetic procedure. And technomancers can...sit on their butt.
So can anyone tell me how to get more meat initiative passes as a technomancer, or barring that, how to hack systems without going into VR all the time? |
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Gelare Technomancers and Initiative Passes Aug 5 2007, 08:31 PM
Kyoto Kid ...this has been my argument against Technomancers... Aug 5 2007, 08:48 PM Tarantula Yeah, Hack them in AR. Whats so hard about that? ... Aug 5 2007, 08:51 PM Doctor Funkenstein Err, what exactly stops you from getting something... Aug 5 2007, 09:11 PM Tarantula Nothing does funk. As he said, mages can use incr... Aug 5 2007, 09:25 PM Doctor Funkenstein Mages deal with the real world. Technomancers dea... Aug 5 2007, 09:26 PM Tarantula Mages deal with the astral. They get their extra ... Aug 5 2007, 09:28 PM Doctor Funkenstein <just rolls his eyes> Aug 5 2007, 09:40 PM Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)Err, what exactly stops ... Aug 5 2007, 09:45 PM Particle_Beam How about having your friendly neighbourhood mage ... Aug 5 2007, 10:57 PM Wasabi QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Err, what exactly stops... Aug 6 2007, 02:45 AM Doctor Funkenstein Oh wow, you mean there's ACTUAL consequences f... Aug 6 2007, 02:52 AM Gelare Sorry Doc Funk, but I'm with Tarantula and fri... Aug 6 2007, 03:42 AM Fortune But that's the point. They can get extra IP if... Aug 6 2007, 03:45 AM Tarantula Yes, but that tradeoff is of terrible proportions ... Aug 6 2007, 03:48 AM Doctor Funkenstein First, there are no classes in this game.
Second,... Aug 6 2007, 03:54 AM hobgoblin maybe its not so much that tm's are underpower... Aug 6 2007, 03:55 AM Tarantula Heres the point. A cyberjunkie gives up essence t... Aug 6 2007, 03:58 AM Jaid QUOTE (Tarantula) Yes, but that tradeoff is of ter... Aug 6 2007, 03:58 AM Particle_Beam Is character creation the only place and time wher... Aug 6 2007, 04:01 AM Jaid QUOTE (Particle_Beam) Is character creation the on... Aug 6 2007, 04:05 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Jaid) ...at that point he's traded in 9... Aug 6 2007, 04:07 AM Particle_Beam QUOTE if there's one thing i've learned f... Aug 6 2007, 04:28 AM hobgoblin how many initiative passes does a sprite get out o... Aug 6 2007, 04:43 AM Vaevictis QUOTE (Gelare)Honestly, as cool as the matrix is, ... Aug 6 2007, 05:17 AM Gelare QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)QUOTE (Jaid @ Aug 5... Aug 6 2007, 05:18 AM Particle_Beam Yes, it is really the player's fault to reduce... Aug 6 2007, 05:23 AM KiwiTroll Hi there - first post but i really need to stick m... Aug 6 2007, 07:02 AM Kyoto Kid …a little after the fact, however, I’ve read a... Aug 6 2007, 07:02 AM Cthulhudreams If you gone the drone route, why not detach yourse... Aug 6 2007, 07:12 AM Ravor Adepts are flat out crazy if they try to get their... Aug 6 2007, 08:03 AM Fortune QUOTE (Ravor) Adepts are flat out crazy if they tr... Aug 6 2007, 08:51 AM Fuchs It also depends on the type of campaign you are ru... Aug 6 2007, 09:04 AM Blade Drugs.
Take some cram, or jazz: cheap, essence-fr... Aug 6 2007, 09:46 AM NightmareX QUOTE (hobgoblin) hell, with ar interface a mage c... Aug 6 2007, 11:17 AM NightmareX QUOTE (Jaid) translation: the game should be fun f... Aug 6 2007, 11:17 AM NightmareX QUOTE (Kyoto Kid) One thing concerning Otaku, whil... Aug 6 2007, 11:18 AM Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Ravor)Adepts are flat out crazy if they try... Aug 6 2007, 03:02 PM Gelare QUOTE (NightmareX)QUOTE (Gelare)Sorry Doc Funk, bu... Aug 6 2007, 04:38 PM PlatonicPimp A technomancer hacking AR style does it by summoni... Aug 6 2007, 05:08 PM Fuchs Maybe the question should be: Does every character... Aug 6 2007, 05:18 PM Jaid QUOTE (Fuchs) Maybe the question should be: Does e... Aug 6 2007, 05:38 PM PlatonicPimp I think we're saying they aren't supposed ... Aug 6 2007, 05:46 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Aug 5 2007, 11:01 PM) ... Aug 6 2007, 05:55 PM odinson The problem is the assumption that everyone needs ... Aug 6 2007, 06:01 PM Whipstitch You guys must play in a world where all the LoneSt... Aug 6 2007, 06:08 PM Fuchs I rarely envision combat as some "quickdraw, ... Aug 6 2007, 06:08 PM Ravor Plus something that all too often gets forgotten i... Aug 6 2007, 06:14 PM Vaevictis I would just like to point out that it doesn't... Aug 6 2007, 06:20 PM Whipstitch One houserule I thought I'd suggest: Let Overc... Aug 6 2007, 06:35 PM Fortune QUOTE (Jaid) it's about being able to hack fro... Aug 7 2007, 01:17 AM Buster You could just screw that "Resonance isn... Aug 7 2007, 01:30 AM farrenj Personally, I think there needs to be more a look ... Aug 7 2007, 01:36 AM Whipstitch Perhaps, but that doesn't mean the rules shoul... Aug 7 2007, 02:29 AM Particle_Beam Only if all that you want is to make the Technoman... Aug 7 2007, 03:06 AM Dender QUOTE (hobgoblin) maybe its not so much that tm... Aug 7 2007, 03:38 AM Doctor Funkenstein Your issue is with Magicians and a belief that the... Aug 7 2007, 04:04 AM Dender QUOTE (Whipstitch) [...] sucking it up and dealing... Aug 7 2007, 04:07 AM Doctor Funkenstein I also don't see why people keep bringing up m... Aug 7 2007, 04:16 AM Dender The issue is that a streetsam can go and drop 20BP... Aug 7 2007, 04:20 AM Dender Anyone running VR has fantastic reflexes. Technoma... Aug 7 2007, 04:31 AM odinson QUOTE (Dender) Sure, Rounded might be able to do a... Aug 7 2007, 04:54 AM Tarantula Funk, the problem with your drone analogy, is that... Aug 7 2007, 04:57 AM Cthulhudreams If you compare technomancers to the most closely r... Aug 7 2007, 05:16 AM Tarantula And because losing resonance means losing a ton of... Aug 7 2007, 05:18 AM Particle_Beam Which in the end only means that all that people c... Aug 7 2007, 05:19 AM Cthulhudreams QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Aug 7 2007, 12:19 AM) ... Aug 7 2007, 05:33 AM Fortune QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) ... but really I want my pla... Aug 7 2007, 05:53 AM fistandantilus3.0 I agree with Fortune. (Weird, I know). I think it ... Aug 7 2007, 05:55 AM Jaid what i don't get is that people are objecting ... Aug 7 2007, 06:06 AM Cthulhudreams QUOTE (Fortune @ Aug 7 2007, 12:53 AM) QUOTE ... Aug 7 2007, 06:17 AM Fortune QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) ... so players are equally s... Aug 7 2007, 06:27 AM Cthulhudreams QUOTE (Fortune @ Aug 7 2007, 01:27 AM) QUOTE ... Aug 7 2007, 06:50 AM Critias What's especially amusing about this conversat... Aug 7 2007, 07:04 AM KiwiTroll Only in so far as your wanting the matrix to rever... Aug 7 2007, 07:16 AM NightmareX QUOTE (Fuchs) Maybe the question should be: Does e... Aug 7 2007, 07:19 AM NightmareX QUOTE (Gelare)
Excuse me? Class? Did I... Aug 7 2007, 07:26 AM Gelare QUOTE (NightmareX)My apologies for jumping on you ... Aug 7 2007, 01:11 PM Buster That actually makes sense by the rules too. You c... Aug 7 2007, 02:07 PM Rotbart van Dainig While it makes sense, it essentially means that th... Aug 7 2007, 02:20 PM Gelare It means that he shoots people twice as fast in fa... Aug 7 2007, 02:28 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Aug 6 2007, 10:06 PM) ... Aug 7 2007, 03:02 PM Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Whipstitch) It's why I'm fond of th... Aug 7 2007, 03:09 PM Buster The borders of AR are pretty clear, where's th... Aug 7 2007, 03:21 PM Particle_Beam QUOTE (Whipstitch) ...so it's really more abou... Aug 7 2007, 03:34 PM PlatonicPimp See, giving technomancers full access to adept pow... Aug 7 2007, 04:09 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Aug 7 2007, 10:34 AM) ... Aug 7 2007, 04:19 PM Dizzman I like Platonic Pimp's simple and easy house r... Aug 7 2007, 04:40 PM Dizzman Another idea for the house related above. It coul... Aug 7 2007, 04:42 PM stable_sort QUOTE (NightmareX)QUOTE (Gelare)
QUOTE I really wi... Aug 7 2007, 04:45 PM WeaverMount I actually really don't see the problem with l... Aug 7 2007, 05:12 PM Doctor Funkenstein I have no problem if the sole reason people wanted... Aug 7 2007, 05:39 PM Jaid QUOTE (WeaverMount) I actually really don't se... Aug 7 2007, 05:39 PM Whipstitch Yep. A hacker using AR is unaffected by Black Hamm... Aug 7 2007, 06:01 PM damaleon If you look at it, what are the real benefits a Te... Aug 7 2007, 07:09 PM Spike Damnit, I just had my SR4 book handy the other day... Aug 7 2007, 07:55 PM Whipstitch Hey, it's not like I'm saying TMs are utte... Aug 7 2007, 08:09 PM damaleon When a TM is knocked unconscious (full stun track)... Aug 7 2007, 08:10 PM Spike Stun and unconciousness alike: I suppose it depend... Aug 7 2007, 08:15 PM
neko128 QUOTE (damaleon) When a TM is knocked unconscious ... Aug 7 2007, 10:29 PM  |
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