Aug 8 2007, 07:35 PM
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Old Man of the North ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,449 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
I see many references here in DS to the adept power Living Focus as being a waste of time. The worst I have seen said about it is that it takes 2 dice away from actions by the adept.
But, any kind of sustained spell takes those dice away from somebody, usually the mage. A sustaining focus eliminates that detraction, but an adept can't use those, and sustaining foci are usually limited in rating, particularly at character generation. An adept with Living Focus: 1) allows the mage to cast a spell on him and be free to do other things without cost ("Sure, I'll cast that on you, it's no skin off my teeth.") 2) can accept spells of any kind from any mage in the party. Mondo flexible. 3) acts as a focus of rating equal to his Magic, which will usually be 4 or more and be able to grow with no limit. ("He has armor WHAT??!!") 4) can choose to drop the sustained spell whenever the -2 dice cost becomes more expensive than all the benefits of 1) to 3) above. Why would you not want your adept to have this power? |
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pbangarth Living Focus - why the bad rap? Aug 8 2007, 07:35 PM
klinktastic That's what I was thinking. I might drop it i... Aug 8 2007, 07:39 PM
Dashifen The big advantage that I've seen is #2. That ... Aug 8 2007, 07:51 PM
Marwynn Power points are relatively limited by Magic, and ... Aug 8 2007, 08:08 PM
klinktastic Always room for a GM house rule errata.....Right D... Aug 8 2007, 08:13 PM
James McMurray If I can free up a magic point I'll definitely... Aug 8 2007, 08:13 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Marwynn) I don't think it's a bad c... Aug 8 2007, 08:15 PM
WeaverMount Especially if you factor in spirits if you mage ca... Aug 8 2007, 08:18 PM
WeaverMount @ James. How do you figure it as zero karma? To re... Aug 8 2007, 08:22 PM
klinktastic Weavermount brings up a good point. I have no clu... Aug 8 2007, 08:34 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (WeaverMount) @ James. How do you figure it ... Aug 8 2007, 08:43 PM
PlatonicPimp It's those -2 dice. It's not that it's... Aug 8 2007, 08:49 PM
klinktastic QUOTE (PlatonicPimp @ Aug 8 2007, 03:49 PM) I... Aug 8 2007, 08:53 PM
Marwynn QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (Marwynn @ Aug 8... Aug 8 2007, 09:11 PM
Doctor Funkenstein You're missing the entire -2 Dicepool penalty ... Aug 8 2007, 09:40 PM
Demerzel Actually a radically different end effect seeing a... Aug 8 2007, 09:41 PM
PlatonicPimp Here's the deal for me: It's a dud power i... Aug 8 2007, 09:48 PM
pbangarth QUOTE (Marwynn)
But I wouldn't call it ... Aug 8 2007, 09:50 PM
Doctor Funkenstein Once again: -2 dicepool penalty. Skillwires don... Aug 8 2007, 09:55 PM
klinktastic Could you sustain an area invisibility on said ade... Aug 8 2007, 10:03 PM
pbangarth QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Which, for an adept who... Aug 8 2007, 10:07 PM
Marwynn QUOTE (pbangarth) QUOTE (Marwynn @ Aug 8 2007... Aug 8 2007, 10:10 PM
pbangarth There is a nearly infinite list of powers the adep... Aug 8 2007, 10:24 PM
Fortune QUOTE (pbangarth)The -2 dice cost is applicable on... Aug 8 2007, 11:17 PM
Ancient History Anyone that does take Living Focus might also be a... Aug 9 2007, 12:09 AM
Ranneko QUOTE (WeaverMount) Especially if you factor in sp... Aug 9 2007, 12:24 AM
James McMurray QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) It's those -2 dice. It... Aug 9 2007, 01:40 AM
James McMurray QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You're missing the ... Aug 9 2007, 01:43 AM
James McMurray QUOTE That's the rub. The normal sustaining fo... Aug 9 2007, 01:46 AM
James McMurray QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug 8 2007, 04:50 PM) Yes.... Aug 9 2007, 01:51 AM
Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug 8 2007, 07:43 PM)... Aug 9 2007, 02:04 AM
Marwynn QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug 8 2007, 08:46 PM)... Aug 9 2007, 02:30 AM
Shinobi Killfist At 1`P I dont think I'd ever want to take it. ... Aug 9 2007, 02:37 AM
klinktastic Can someone answer my question of if you can cast ... Aug 9 2007, 02:51 AM
Marwynn Well there aren't any spells that are Area of ... Aug 9 2007, 03:14 AM
Ancient History There are a couple of fun tricks you can pull of w... Aug 9 2007, 03:15 AM
Dizzman Living focus is a good and interesting power that ... Aug 9 2007, 03:34 AM
hyzmarca Reason why 99% of all adepts will take Living Focu... Aug 9 2007, 03:36 AM
Wasabi QUOTE (hyzmarca) Reason why 99% of all adepts will... Aug 9 2007, 08:25 AM
Wasabi QUOTE (Marwynn) Easier to summon a spirit and Conc... Aug 9 2007, 08:27 AM
Eleazar Use psyche to turn that -2 into a -1.
As far as ... Aug 9 2007, 12:08 PM
James McMurray Rather than repeat myself answering questions I... Aug 9 2007, 02:17 PM
Marwynn QUOTE
Do you not understand the meaning of ... Aug 9 2007, 02:35 PM
Backgammon QUOTE (klinktastic) Could you sustain an area invi... Aug 9 2007, 02:41 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Marwynn) QUOTE That's not the same as f... Aug 9 2007, 03:23 PM
Marwynn You know, you make it sound like I don't know ... Aug 9 2007, 04:38 PM
James McMurray You're the one that said you didn't see ho... Aug 9 2007, 04:50 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 9 2007, 03:15 AM... Aug 9 2007, 05:52 PM
Ancient History Okay, not the best-thought-out example in the worl... Aug 9 2007, 06:17 PM
hyzmarca Of course, there is the opposite problem with the ... Aug 9 2007, 08:17 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable Wouldn't work:
QUOTE Living Focus allows the ... Aug 9 2007, 08:35 PM
hyzmarca But there is that tricky word "may". May... Aug 9 2007, 08:56 PM
Demerzel So, what you're saying is, if you successfully... Aug 9 2007, 09:08 PM
Moon-Hawk You can't compel someone not to resist compuls... Aug 9 2007, 09:13 PM
James McMurray You'd also have to know that they were capable... Aug 9 2007, 09:20 PM
hyzmarca Even if you cannot compel someone to resist compul... Aug 9 2007, 09:25 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable I've always read the "may" as the ta... Aug 9 2007, 09:26 PM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (hyzmarca) Even if you cannot compel someone... Aug 9 2007, 09:29 PM
Demerzel That feels like some sort of major flaw, and unrel... Aug 9 2007, 09:31 PM
PlatonicPimp The middle ground here is that for that to work yo... Aug 9 2007, 09:38 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Demerzel) Where is the middle ground here? ... Aug 9 2007, 09:45 PM
Demerzel Yea, it's usually something simple like that..... Aug 9 2007, 09:59 PM
Marwynn Actually you could read it the other way too. Sinc... Aug 9 2007, 10:08 PM
Demerzel Well, no guarentee that the target succeeds at bre... Aug 9 2007, 10:46 PM
pbangarth QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug... Aug 9 2007, 11:18 PM
pbangarth Swinging back to the topic.....
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It has been su... Aug 9 2007, 11:35 PM
PlatonicPimp I'm not saying it's a drawback per se, in ... Aug 10 2007, 12:27 AM
James McMurray QUOTE (pbangarth) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug... Aug 10 2007, 02:24 AM
James McMurray Living Focus doesn't require much cooperation ... Aug 10 2007, 02:27 AM![]() ![]() |
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