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pbangarth
post Aug 8 2007, 07:35 PM
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I see many references here in DS to the adept power Living Focus as being a waste of time. The worst I have seen said about it is that it takes 2 dice away from actions by the adept.

But, any kind of sustained spell takes those dice away from somebody, usually the mage. A sustaining focus eliminates that detraction, but an adept can't use those, and sustaining foci are usually limited in rating, particularly at character generation.

An adept with Living Focus:

1) allows the mage to cast a spell on him and be free to do other things without cost ("Sure, I'll cast that on you, it's no skin off my teeth.")

2) can accept spells of any kind from any mage in the party. Mondo flexible.

3) acts as a focus of rating equal to his Magic, which will usually be 4 or more and be able to grow with no limit. ("He has armor WHAT??!!")

4) can choose to drop the sustained spell whenever the -2 dice cost becomes more expensive than all the benefits of 1) to 3) above.

Why would you not want your adept to have this power?
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- pbangarth   Living Focus - why the bad rap?   Aug 8 2007, 07:35 PM
- - klinktastic   That's what I was thinking. I might drop it i...   Aug 8 2007, 07:39 PM
- - Dashifen   The big advantage that I've seen is #2. That ...   Aug 8 2007, 07:51 PM
- - Marwynn   Power points are relatively limited by Magic, and ...   Aug 8 2007, 08:08 PM
- - klinktastic   Always room for a GM house rule errata.....Right D...   Aug 8 2007, 08:13 PM
- - James McMurray   If I can free up a magic point I'll definitely...   Aug 8 2007, 08:13 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Marwynn) I don't think it's a bad c...   Aug 8 2007, 08:15 PM
- - WeaverMount   Especially if you factor in spirits if you mage ca...   Aug 8 2007, 08:18 PM
- - WeaverMount   @ James. How do you figure it as zero karma? To re...   Aug 8 2007, 08:22 PM
- - klinktastic   Weavermount brings up a good point. I have no clu...   Aug 8 2007, 08:34 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (WeaverMount) @ James. How do you figure it ...   Aug 8 2007, 08:43 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   It's those -2 dice. It's not that it's...   Aug 8 2007, 08:49 PM
- - klinktastic   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp @ Aug 8 2007, 03:49 PM) I...   Aug 8 2007, 08:53 PM
- - Marwynn   QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (Marwynn @ Aug 8...   Aug 8 2007, 09:11 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   You're missing the entire -2 Dicepool penalty ...   Aug 8 2007, 09:40 PM
- - Demerzel   Actually a radically different end effect seeing a...   Aug 8 2007, 09:41 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   Here's the deal for me: It's a dud power i...   Aug 8 2007, 09:48 PM
- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Marwynn) But I wouldn't call it ...   Aug 8 2007, 09:50 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   Once again: -2 dicepool penalty. Skillwires don...   Aug 8 2007, 09:55 PM
- - klinktastic   Could you sustain an area invisibility on said ade...   Aug 8 2007, 10:03 PM
- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Which, for an adept who...   Aug 8 2007, 10:07 PM
- - Marwynn   QUOTE (pbangarth) QUOTE (Marwynn @ Aug 8 2007...   Aug 8 2007, 10:10 PM
- - pbangarth   There is a nearly infinite list of powers the adep...   Aug 8 2007, 10:24 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (pbangarth)The -2 dice cost is applicable on...   Aug 8 2007, 11:17 PM
- - Ancient History   Anyone that does take Living Focus might also be a...   Aug 9 2007, 12:09 AM
- - Ranneko   QUOTE (WeaverMount) Especially if you factor in sp...   Aug 9 2007, 12:24 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (PlatonicPimp) It's those -2 dice. It...   Aug 9 2007, 01:40 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You're missing the ...   Aug 9 2007, 01:43 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE That's the rub. The normal sustaining fo...   Aug 9 2007, 01:46 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug 8 2007, 04:50 PM) Yes....   Aug 9 2007, 01:51 AM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug 8 2007, 07:43 PM)...   Aug 9 2007, 02:04 AM
- - Marwynn   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug 8 2007, 08:46 PM)...   Aug 9 2007, 02:30 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   At 1`P I dont think I'd ever want to take it. ...   Aug 9 2007, 02:37 AM
- - klinktastic   Can someone answer my question of if you can cast ...   Aug 9 2007, 02:51 AM
- - Marwynn   Well there aren't any spells that are Area of ...   Aug 9 2007, 03:14 AM
- - Ancient History   There are a couple of fun tricks you can pull of w...   Aug 9 2007, 03:15 AM
- - Dizzman   Living focus is a good and interesting power that ...   Aug 9 2007, 03:34 AM
- - hyzmarca   Reason why 99% of all adepts will take Living Focu...   Aug 9 2007, 03:36 AM
- - Wasabi   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Reason why 99% of all adepts will...   Aug 9 2007, 08:25 AM
- - Wasabi   QUOTE (Marwynn) Easier to summon a spirit and Conc...   Aug 9 2007, 08:27 AM
- - Eleazar   Use psyche to turn that -2 into a -1. As far as ...   Aug 9 2007, 12:08 PM
- - James McMurray   Rather than repeat myself answering questions I...   Aug 9 2007, 02:17 PM
- - Marwynn   QUOTE Do you not understand the meaning of ...   Aug 9 2007, 02:35 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (klinktastic) Could you sustain an area invi...   Aug 9 2007, 02:41 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Marwynn) QUOTE That's not the same as f...   Aug 9 2007, 03:23 PM
- - Marwynn   You know, you make it sound like I don't know ...   Aug 9 2007, 04:38 PM
- - James McMurray   You're the one that said you didn't see ho...   Aug 9 2007, 04:50 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 9 2007, 03:15 AM...   Aug 9 2007, 05:52 PM
- - Ancient History   Okay, not the best-thought-out example in the worl...   Aug 9 2007, 06:17 PM
- - hyzmarca   Of course, there is the opposite problem with the ...   Aug 9 2007, 08:17 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   Wouldn't work: QUOTE Living Focus allows the ...   Aug 9 2007, 08:35 PM
- - hyzmarca   But there is that tricky word "may". May...   Aug 9 2007, 08:56 PM
- - Demerzel   So, what you're saying is, if you successfully...   Aug 9 2007, 09:08 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   You can't compel someone not to resist compuls...   Aug 9 2007, 09:13 PM
- - James McMurray   You'd also have to know that they were capable...   Aug 9 2007, 09:20 PM
- - hyzmarca   Even if you cannot compel someone to resist compul...   Aug 9 2007, 09:25 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   I've always read the "may" as the ta...   Aug 9 2007, 09:26 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Even if you cannot compel someone...   Aug 9 2007, 09:29 PM
- - Demerzel   That feels like some sort of major flaw, and unrel...   Aug 9 2007, 09:31 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   The middle ground here is that for that to work yo...   Aug 9 2007, 09:38 PM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (Demerzel) Where is the middle ground here? ...   Aug 9 2007, 09:45 PM
- - Demerzel   Yea, it's usually something simple like that.....   Aug 9 2007, 09:59 PM
- - Marwynn   Actually you could read it the other way too. Sinc...   Aug 9 2007, 10:08 PM
- - Demerzel   Well, no guarentee that the target succeeds at bre...   Aug 9 2007, 10:46 PM
- - pbangarth   QUOTE (James McMurray) QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug...   Aug 9 2007, 11:18 PM
- - pbangarth   Swinging back to the topic..... 1) It has been su...   Aug 9 2007, 11:35 PM
- - PlatonicPimp   I'm not saying it's a drawback per se, in ...   Aug 10 2007, 12:27 AM
- - James McMurray   QUOTE (pbangarth) QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug...   Aug 10 2007, 02:24 AM
- - James McMurray   Living Focus doesn't require much cooperation ...   Aug 10 2007, 02:27 AM


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