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Midnight Toker  Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456  |
Now, this concerns me both for the effect it may have on a traditional form of comedy and standard poster-prudence. To begin, there is no doubt that it is both dishonorable and undesirable for one poster to misrepresent the words of another poster when making a quote and that it is a valid administrative goal to prevent such misrepresentation. However, their is a bright and bold line between blatant misrepresentation and clever parody. The longstanding tradition of "fixing" the posts of others by quoting them, altering the quoted text in a humorous and satirical manner, and clearly drawing attention to the fact that the text was altered, leaving no doubt that the text was altered for the purpose of satire or parody, does not offend the canons of message board etiquette. Other, more auspicious, bodies have determined that clear and obvious parody cannot be construed as slander or libel and rightly so. Such satire, made in good humor and accepted in good humor, cannot reasonably be considered an offense against the original poster and it certainly cannot be considered an offense against the community as a whole unless all irreverent humor is considered such an offense. The prospect that such satire may be deemed an offense concerns this poster who has, on occasion, used the technique himself and who has garnered great pleasure from other's use of the technique. Exchanges such as that located in the thread stored as http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=9729 do not provide a material benefit to the forum but they serve to forge an esprit de corps that has infinite intangible benefits. While I have no desire to see the recreation of the lounge area and understand that topical order must be maintained, it must be recognized that such mechanization of the rules without regard to poster intent and community tradition only damages the community as a whole and perverts the forum into something less than it currently is. The loss of community flavor and good-natured brotherhood that such a measure entails can only be detrimental to Dumpshock as a whole. The second concern is in the use of the standard quotation editing technique of using brackets to represent corrections, clarifications, and the removal of extraneous text. Of particular concern is the use of epilepsies in brackets to indicate the removal of extraneous information, which is most important to this message board. [...] Is commonly recognized to represent words removed from the body of an otherwise exact quote for one reason or another and is commonly used in professional, journalistic, and academic circles. It is often necessary and useful due to the fact that exact quotes can contain large amounts of extraneous text that does not relate to the topic that the quote is used to address. On message boards with easy cut-and-paste and auto-quote features, this is less necessary, but it is still useful. The removal of extraneous text from the body of a quote reduces the size of the board database. While it does not have any substantial impact in a single post, taken in aggregate the difference can be huge when compared to full quotes of long posts, particularly when a series of quotes are exchanged. It is also makes things less confusing for readers, when it is done correctly. By removing points that are not intended to be addressed from a quote, a replying poster can better clarify his argument, which is better for everyone in the long run, and readers are saved from the requirement of reading the extraneous test all over again. |
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hyzmarca On the Honorable practice of "Fixing" posts Aug 10 2007, 09:14 AM
Trigger Hmm, I know that I have done the editing of quotes... Aug 10 2007, 09:28 AM Doctor Funkenstein Yeah, I was rather confused by the whole thing mys... Aug 10 2007, 09:38 AM Kagetenshi I also object to this being made a point of policy... Aug 10 2007, 12:20 PM eidolon Don't get yourselves too worked up. This has ... Aug 10 2007, 01:47 PM Bull The real worries here were this:
1) Maliciousnes... Aug 10 2007, 01:58 PM tisoz Maybe something in the TOS that Dumpshock will no ... Aug 10 2007, 03:20 PM Critias Man. I hope everyone -- especially the this-is-my... Aug 10 2007, 04:19 PM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (hyzmarca) The second concern is in the use ... Aug 10 2007, 04:20 PM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Critias @ Aug 10 2007, 11:19 AM) [...]... Aug 10 2007, 04:23 PM Demerzel QUOTE ( Moon-Hawk)Should they be used when cutting... Aug 10 2007, 04:46 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) Should they be used when cutting... Aug 10 2007, 04:51 PM Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Demerzel @ Aug 10 2007, 11:46 AM) Also... Aug 10 2007, 04:54 PM Demerzel QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Aug 10 2007, 09:54 AM) So ... Aug 10 2007, 04:57 PM fistandantilus3.0 *trying this without scary mod face*
The issue wi... Aug 10 2007, 05:38 PM Bull QUOTE (Critias) Man. I hope everyone -- especiall... Aug 10 2007, 05:47 PM Adam Hey all,
I apologized to Fortune after-the-fact f... Aug 10 2007, 06:04 PM fistandantilus3.0 Hey even Capt Chaos made mistakes. Of course, he... Aug 10 2007, 06:13 PM
Fortune I was tossed up about whether to post in this thre... Aug 10 2007, 10:15 PM  |
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