 MBT Stats for SR4 |
 Aug 18 2007, 02:40 PM
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Hello All,
I'm looking for suggestions on houserule 4th edition stats for a Main Battle Tank, specifically the CAS Stonewall. In the absence of vehicle design rules, I, teh humble nooblet, have no bloody clue how to go about describing this thing in game terms. Plot requires one though, so any ideas would be welcome. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, -Ferret |
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ferret825 MBT Stats for SR4 Aug 18 2007, 02:40 PM
Backgammon Does it need stats? Do you really need to resolve ... Aug 18 2007, 03:43 PM knasser Players always appreciate you rolling dice before ... Aug 18 2007, 03:51 PM FriendoftheDork Make sure it got tons of armor Nothing you should... Aug 18 2007, 05:04 PM Wasabi Without spending Edge on a Long Shot roll...
... Aug 18 2007, 05:49 PM hobgoblin hmm, i think it was sota:63 that had stats for tan... Aug 18 2007, 05:52 PM Kyoto Kid ...yes it was, in the Soldiers of Fortune chapter.... Aug 18 2007, 11:33 PM ferret825 Well, firstly, thanks for all your responses. The... Aug 19 2007, 02:07 AM Gort QUOTE (ferret825) Regarding weapons, the main gun ... Aug 19 2007, 02:13 AM ferret825 I understand that. However, they are a lot more li... Aug 19 2007, 02:21 AM Doctor Funkenstein GMC Banshee (Thunderbird) with Handling, Speed, an... Aug 19 2007, 02:25 AM Crusher Bob Tanks typically don't have a bunch of extra we... Aug 19 2007, 02:28 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob) [...] Body 36
armor vs KE 250/... Aug 19 2007, 02:34 AM ferret825 @ Funkenstein: I was thinking more along the lines... Aug 19 2007, 02:44 AM Cthulhudreams Three observations: While a MBT main gun can indee... Aug 19 2007, 02:50 AM ferret825 I can see multiple armor ratings, especially as th... Aug 19 2007, 02:55 AM Doctor Funkenstein Spirits: Not much can be done against them unless... Aug 19 2007, 02:56 AM Big D Modern tanks have only 2-3 secondary weapons, beca... Aug 19 2007, 02:58 AM Cthulhudreams If you want to keep the players tied up for a whil... Aug 19 2007, 03:02 AM Crusher Bob QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Aug 19 2007, 10:3... Aug 19 2007, 03:12 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob) If you noted in the same post,... Aug 19 2007, 03:16 AM Crusher Bob How is it broken? The system can be quickly match... Aug 19 2007, 03:23 AM Cthulhudreams QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 18 2007, 10:23 PM) H... Aug 19 2007, 03:25 AM Crusher Bob But then you discover that wallhacker or the troll... Aug 19 2007, 03:35 AM Cthulhudreams Yeah, it's self evidently a problem with just ... Aug 19 2007, 03:55 AM Crusher Bob Erm, since there are no canon stats for tanks in S... Aug 19 2007, 04:08 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Crusher Bob) But then you discover that wal... Aug 19 2007, 04:18 AM Crusher Bob But notice the scale problem. An APC has roughly ... Aug 19 2007, 04:26 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 18 2007, 10:08 PM) E... Aug 19 2007, 05:03 AM hyzmarca And that is a huge problem. At that point, howeve... Aug 19 2007, 05:04 AM Crusher Bob That's part of the reason that all the heavy w... Aug 19 2007, 05:13 AM WearzManySkins QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) QUOTE (Crusher Bob ... Aug 19 2007, 05:34 AM Doctor Funkenstein Eh?
The CAS Stonewall was just a heavy thunderbir... Aug 19 2007, 06:32 AM WearzManySkins QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Eh?
The CAS Stonewall ... Aug 19 2007, 06:52 AM Crusher Bob You keep repeating that my proposed values are bro... Aug 19 2007, 06:52 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 19 2007, 12:52 AM) Y... Aug 19 2007, 07:06 AM Crusher Bob The problem with most scaling systems is that they... Aug 19 2007, 07:17 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob) The problem with most scaling ... Aug 19 2007, 07:29 AM Crusher Bob I never advocated rolling that many dice. I said ... Aug 19 2007, 07:45 AM Fortune I'm not understanding why it just can't ha... Aug 19 2007, 08:50 AM Doctor Funkenstein Exactly my point. Aug 19 2007, 08:51 AM Crusher Bob Because using real world values give you both an ... Aug 19 2007, 09:17 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 19 2007, 03:17 AM) I... Aug 19 2007, 09:28 AM knasser I've got to weigh in here in support of Funken... Aug 19 2007, 09:46 AM Fortune QUOTE (Crusher Bob)Making the system that you can ... Aug 19 2007, 09:49 AM knasser QUOTE (Fortune) Somebody posted a pdf recently of ... Aug 19 2007, 09:53 AM Fortune Yeah, I have the pdf ... I'm just lazy.
So, ... Aug 19 2007, 09:57 AM knasser QUOTE (Fortune) Yeah, I have the pdf ... I'm j... Aug 19 2007, 10:12 AM Fortune QUOTE (knasser) If you double-clicked your PDF fil... Aug 19 2007, 10:32 AM Crusher Bob How many tank stats have been published in the var... Aug 19 2007, 11:14 AM WearzManySkins Crusher Bob, how or if your are going to implement... Aug 19 2007, 11:50 AM Narmio Wearz, that's easy.
The FGM-172 has a "1... Aug 19 2007, 12:23 PM knasser Okay CrusherBob, I get it now. You are completely ... Aug 19 2007, 01:05 PM Crusher Bob Actually, there are not a whole lot of changes to ... Aug 19 2007, 01:19 PM dhyde79 ok, not having read all of the previous posts beca... Aug 19 2007, 04:12 PM knasser I guess in terms of killing the thing, the GM will... Aug 19 2007, 04:42 PM dhyde79 QUOTE (Crusher Bob) The problem with most scaling ... Aug 19 2007, 04:57 PM Fortune QUOTE (Crusher Bob) Actually, there are not a whol... Aug 19 2007, 05:59 PM Doctor Funkenstein Not even a real MBT, but a heavy thunderbird. One... Aug 19 2007, 06:04 PM Kyoto Kid …the funny thing to all of this, for I beleive a... Aug 19 2007, 06:40 PM kzt QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Nothing currently in th... Aug 19 2007, 11:30 PM Fortune QUOTE (kzt) QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Aug 1... Aug 20 2007, 12:11 AM hyzmarca Problems arise when we get into things like battle... Aug 20 2007, 01:06 AM kzt You are trying to reflect the difference between a... Aug 20 2007, 01:08 AM Kyoto Kid ...that is why I suggested just taking the armour ... Aug 20 2007, 01:35 AM dhyde79 QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 19 2007, 08:08 PM) You are t... Aug 20 2007, 01:44 AM kzt Even a heavily armored truck doesn't plan to s... Aug 20 2007, 02:11 AM dhyde79 QUOTE (kzt)
Far as I know, nobody has managed to ... Aug 20 2007, 02:23 AM WearzManySkins Link here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobham_arm... Aug 20 2007, 02:42 AM toturi QUOTE (dhyde79 @ Aug 20 2007, 12:57 AM) That ... Aug 20 2007, 03:10 AM Bira Complaining Shadowrun doesn't have "prope... Aug 20 2007, 03:48 AM kzt QUOTE (Bira) the game wasn't made for that sor... Aug 20 2007, 04:03 AM dhyde79 QUOTE (WearzManySkins)
We have lost M1's in I... Aug 20 2007, 05:15 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Bira) Complaining Shadowrun doesn't hav... Aug 20 2007, 05:24 AM Crusher Bob To recap:
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1 Tanks, bunker busting ... Aug 20 2007, 05:35 AM WearzManySkins QUOTE (dhyde79) QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Aug 1... Aug 20 2007, 05:55 AM dhyde79 QUOTE (Crusher Bob)
4 There are a whole host of ... Aug 20 2007, 05:56 AM dhyde79 QUOTE (WearzManySkins) For Shadowrun, most of what... Aug 20 2007, 06:04 AM Doctor Funkenstein Actually, the real point of this thread is to crea... Aug 20 2007, 06:07 AM Fortune QUOTE (dhyde79) IF by some streak of luck, a PC we... Aug 20 2007, 06:16 AM Crusher Bob QUOTE (dhyde79 @ Aug 20 2007, 01:56 PM) ...
... Aug 20 2007, 06:18 AM Crusher Bob QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein @ Aug 20 2007, 02:0... Aug 20 2007, 06:23 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (dhyde79) QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Aug 2... Aug 20 2007, 06:26 AM Crusher Bob QUOTE (hyzmarca) ...
Man Portable weapons are unl... Aug 20 2007, 06:29 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob) Um, there are a whole host of ... Aug 20 2007, 06:37 AM Crusher Bob Assuming we are talking about man-portable ATGMs v... Aug 20 2007, 06:54 AM Doctor Funkenstein Nope. Talking about the Aztechnology Striker, Sha... Aug 20 2007, 07:02 AM knasser Just a thought to add on the automated tank area o... Aug 20 2007, 07:09 AM Crusher Bob And my Grand Dragon only does 8m5 (or whatever it ... Aug 20 2007, 07:11 AM streetangelj Finally a post in this thread that's truly fit... Aug 20 2007, 07:13 AM Crusher Bob Part of the reason that tank crews haven't rea... Aug 20 2007, 07:14 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (knasser) Just a thought to add on the autom... Aug 20 2007, 07:15 AM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 20 2007, 01:11 AM) A... Aug 20 2007, 07:16 AM Crusher Bob But the problem with the current system is that th... Aug 20 2007, 07:22 AM hyzmarca The SR4 BBB does not have stats for anti-tank weap... Aug 20 2007, 07:41 AM kzt Which is why it's called an AV round, not an A... Aug 20 2007, 07:46 AM Crusher Bob QUOTE (hyzmarca) The SR4 BBB does not have stats f... Aug 20 2007, 10:18 AM Ophis The Striker is a light SAM, it's for taking ou... Aug 20 2007, 10:48 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ Aug 20 2007, 05:18 AM) Q... Aug 20 2007, 11:10 AM
Cthulhudreams QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Aug 20 2007, 02:41 AM) The ... Aug 20 2007, 12:19 PM  |
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