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These are the guys in Iraq now, but you read about them or hear about them on the news and it seems pletty clear you are looking at an extraterritorial strike team. They have military grade weapons and do not answer to the police or army. the US State dept is supposed to hold their leash but are not watching them.
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- Daddy's Little Ninja   Private armys   Oct 2 2007, 03:14 PM
- - Kagetenshi   You may want to review the history of the British ...   Oct 2 2007, 03:53 PM
- - nezumi   I'm pretty sure you've been scooped a long...   Oct 2 2007, 04:05 PM
- - Fix-it   what we need is a Battletech-style Mercenary Regul...   Oct 2 2007, 05:27 PM
- - Mercer   The most interesting part of the Blackwater compan...   Oct 2 2007, 07:16 PM
- - nezumi   I hadn't heard about the "two men and a l...   Oct 2 2007, 07:29 PM
- - Kagetenshi   You really think they'll take responsibility f...   Oct 2 2007, 08:36 PM
- - nezumi   Yes, because otherwise they lose the contract. I ...   Oct 2 2007, 09:05 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   The way I see it Blackwater allows the President t...   Oct 2 2007, 11:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (nezumi) But all contractors want to get pai...   Oct 2 2007, 11:51 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   I honestly think it is faintly absurd that governm...   Oct 3 2007, 01:33 AM
- - Emperor Tippy   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams) I honestly think it is faint...   Oct 3 2007, 01:51 AM
- - Daddy's Little Ninja   This is not just a corporate army Nezumi, that is ...   Oct 3 2007, 02:24 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Still not new, see again John Company. ~J   Oct 3 2007, 02:27 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 2 2007...   Oct 3 2007, 05:36 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   Every mercenary in Iraq right now is completely im...   Oct 3 2007, 06:31 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Emperor Tippy) Every mercenary in Iraq righ...   Oct 3 2007, 06:36 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Emperor Tippy) Every mercenary in Iraq righ...   Oct 3 2007, 06:36 PM
- - mfb   the key there is "under Iraq law". i bel...   Oct 3 2007, 06:56 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   http://www.iraqcoalition.org/regulations/2...ith_A...   Oct 3 2007, 07:17 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   QUOTE (mfb) the key there is "under Iraq law...   Oct 3 2007, 07:18 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Emperor Tippy)Nope. No one who is not actua...   Oct 3 2007, 07:21 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   It doesn't actually do anything. None of the s...   Oct 3 2007, 07:41 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Emperor Tippy) The Blackwater guy apparentl...   Oct 3 2007, 07:45 PM
- - mfb   you're making it sound like there is no law at...   Oct 3 2007, 07:45 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Emperor Tippy @ Oct 3 2007, 02:17 PM) ...   Oct 3 2007, 07:48 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   QUOTE (nezumi) QUOTE (Emperor Tippy @ Oct 3 2...   Oct 3 2007, 07:57 PM
- - mfb   a legal haze is not the same as a complete lack of...   Oct 3 2007, 08:01 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   Actually the Supreme court has ruled both ways in ...   Oct 3 2007, 08:11 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   Oh, and according to a July 2007 report from the C...   Oct 3 2007, 08:19 PM
- - nezumi   Like I said, people have been put in jail for goin...   Oct 3 2007, 08:24 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   QUOTE Like I said, people have been put in jail fo...   Oct 3 2007, 08:30 PM
- - Asheron   According to "Protocol Additional to the Gene...   Oct 4 2007, 04:03 AM
- - Emperor Tippy   They can't be designated as mercenaries for ex...   Oct 4 2007, 05:01 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Emperor Tippy) And no US citizen can be cha...   Oct 4 2007, 05:25 AM
- - Emperor Tippy   Put it this way, any international body that holds...   Oct 4 2007, 05:55 AM
- - Asheron   Americans have been executed as mercenaries before...   Oct 4 2007, 06:06 AM
- - Emperor Tippy   Americans have been executed as mercenaries in the...   Oct 4 2007, 06:21 AM
- - Lindt   And this mess is why layers should be shot on sigh...   Oct 4 2007, 07:10 PM
- - mfb   well, that's the thing. they are being treated...   Oct 4 2007, 07:18 PM
- - hyzmarca   The Hauge Invasion Act was a brilliant idea, thoug...   Oct 4 2007, 08:41 PM
- - nezumi   Alright, I'll bite, why do you say that?   Oct 4 2007, 09:12 PM
- - hyzmarca   The Lord's Resistance Army is a Christian para...   Oct 4 2007, 09:41 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   There are really only two more valid comments whic...   Oct 4 2007, 11:24 PM
- - SuperFly   I'm pretty shocked that nobody knew about Blac...   Oct 5 2007, 05:34 PM
- - mfb   yeah... i mean, no offense to anyone, but how are ...   Oct 5 2007, 05:50 PM
- - Emperor Tippy   QUOTE (mfb) yeah... i mean, no offense to anyone, ...   Oct 5 2007, 06:09 PM
- - nezumi   Why? Because there's a large contingent of pe...   Oct 5 2007, 06:25 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (SuperFly) after they've done so many th...   Oct 5 2007, 06:42 PM
- - hyzmarca   National armies aren't allowed to fire expandi...   Oct 5 2007, 06:58 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Sometimes, the reasons why nation...   Oct 5 2007, 07:10 PM
- - SuperFly   Justifiable a lot of the time because your adversa...   Oct 6 2007, 12:10 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (SuperFly) Justifiable a lot of the time bec...   Oct 6 2007, 10:35 AM
- - hyzmarca   Except that codes of conduct can often make dealin...   Oct 6 2007, 01:34 PM
- - Mercer   War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it. Putting...   Oct 6 2007, 02:03 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (FrankTrollman)You do realize that instituti...   Oct 6 2007, 03:26 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The US with Great Patriotic War-era Japan, sorta. ...   Oct 6 2007, 03:32 PM
- - mfb   i was thinking of that when i worded my post--i ha...   Oct 6 2007, 03:36 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Oh, I see what you meant there. Yeah, nothing come...   Oct 6 2007, 03:41 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...same era - Germany, Italy. Japan has just move...   Oct 6 2007, 05:52 PM
- - Mercer   Times change faster than people.   Oct 6 2007, 11:04 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Buster Friendly says people rot faster than times....   Oct 6 2007, 11:40 PM
- - Mercer   Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banan...   Oct 7 2007, 01:48 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE i'm not a history buff, so maybe i'm...   Oct 7 2007, 10:55 AM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Mercer) "All right, let's fight a ...   Oct 7 2007, 11:31 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (FrankTrollman)examples i don't believe ...   Oct 7 2007, 04:53 PM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE i'm not a history ...   Oct 7 2007, 05:18 PM
- - hyzmarca   I must also point out that India didn't invade...   Oct 7 2007, 05:36 PM
- - warrior_allanon   Grinder, look at the relationship between Vichy Fr...   Oct 7 2007, 07:57 PM
- - hyzmarca   Having a friendly puppet government doesn't pr...   Oct 7 2007, 08:01 PM
- - Mercer   QUOTE (nezumi)I believe it was the battle of Getty...   Oct 7 2007, 08:07 PM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (hyzmarca) Having a friendly puppet governme...   Oct 7 2007, 08:11 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE I must also point out that India didn't ...   Oct 7 2007, 09:14 PM
- - Grinder   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) QUOTE Most people in France ...   Oct 7 2007, 09:35 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Grinder) As for making up SS divisions, tur...   Oct 7 2007, 10:54 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Grinder)As for making up SS divisions, turn...   Oct 8 2007, 05:33 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) Of course, we probably hit c...   Oct 8 2007, 07:57 AM
- - Grinder   Frank, I agree with most of your statements, but i...   Oct 8 2007, 01:38 PM
- - mfb   yeah. Frank, by your standards, we've already ...   Oct 8 2007, 02:40 PM
- - Kagetenshi   So is four years too short, or did Germany decline...   Oct 8 2007, 03:20 PM
- - Grinder   It's too short - even in other coutries that w...   Oct 8 2007, 03:54 PM
- - Kagetenshi   But the problem with that reasoning is that then y...   Oct 8 2007, 04:02 PM
- - FrankTrollman   The Nazi program was sufficiently reprehensible th...   Oct 8 2007, 04:04 PM
- - Grinder   Hopefully the Nazis and today's US Army don...   Oct 8 2007, 04:06 PM
- - Roadspike   This is rather off the original topic, but as far ...   Oct 8 2007, 04:18 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (FrankTrollman) France was policing itself a...   Oct 8 2007, 04:21 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Grinder @ Oct 8 2007, 11:06 AM) Hopefu...   Oct 9 2007, 01:54 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (mfb) ignoring the the moment the policies o...   Oct 9 2007, 01:56 AM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (Roadspike) Very few people know that the Am...   Oct 9 2007, 03:03 AM
- - FrankTrollman   Yeah, you run through one hospital with a no-dachi...   Oct 9 2007, 06:25 AM
- - Kronk2   QUOTE (nezumi) Blackwater definitely IS cheaper. ...   Oct 9 2007, 07:54 AM
- - Kronk2   Also Blackwater does not need to follow the Geneva...   Oct 9 2007, 07:56 AM
- - FlakJacket   Whilst private armies like Blackwater USA have bee...   Oct 10 2007, 12:28 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Nothing says "serious business" like a 4...   Oct 10 2007, 01:09 AM
- - Zhan Shi   In regards to piracy, the History Channel had a ve...   Oct 10 2007, 02:27 AM
- - pbangarth   QUOTE (mfb) if they're an uppity population, t...   Oct 10 2007, 02:29 AM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Nothing says "serious busi...   Oct 10 2007, 04:05 AM
- - Zhan Shi   Ugh. Nice epitaph, FlackJacket. I'm going to...   Oct 10 2007, 04:42 AM
- - martindv   QUOTE (Zhan Shi @ Oct 9 2007, 09:27 PM) Execu...   Oct 11 2007, 06:55 PM
- - emo samurai   Tell me, mfb, which operating parameters are so ba...   Oct 12 2007, 07:19 PM
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