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PH3NOmenon
post Nov 21 2007, 07:27 PM
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While trawling through the boards a thought popped into my head, on which i'd like your input.


Considering the rampant use of houserules and alternative systems, how good is SR4 really? I preferred the SR4 rules to SR3 up until now, but when I actually sat down and thought about why, I only came up with 'the world feels alot fresher'. This isn't even a rules issue, this is a settings issue.

Look at what we've come to. There's dozens of ways to rework the Matrix (and you and I both know that this is neccesary). I don't know anyone that doesn't houserule combat to some degree (armor, IPs) and the magic system causes more than a few gripes in the community.

Don't read me wrong here, SR4 setting-wise is still excellent, but when I look at the pile of handouts of rules rewrites i have laying about for my players I start wondering if i'm still playing SR4 or some sort of community-developed (Ty, Dumpshock!) mutant offspring. There's hardly any need for them to actually buy the rulebooks, as 70% of their contents are obsolete. The fact that most of my players do own them says something about the quality of the fluff really.



So, what are your thoughts on this? How much do you houserule? Does it still feel like you're playing SR4? Who here plays 'core'? Was the ball dropped, and dropped hard, on the rules design? What parts are actually good?
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- PH3NOmenon   Alternative Systems   Nov 21 2007, 07:27 PM
- - deek   The amount of houserules on dumpshock, IMO, are no...   Nov 21 2007, 07:39 PM
- - Buster   Ha, I thought Deek's houserule #3 was canon...   Nov 21 2007, 07:48 PM
- - MaxHunter   ...and the dumpshock community here is quite anal ...   Nov 21 2007, 07:53 PM
- - FrankTrollman   One of the core achievments of SR4 is that it uses...   Nov 21 2007, 07:55 PM
- - Thanee   QUOTE (PH3NOmenon) So, what are your thoughts on t...   Nov 21 2007, 08:17 PM
- - Sponge   QUOTE (PH3NOmenon)So, what are your thoughts on th...   Nov 21 2007, 08:19 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Sponge) * Excellent statistical distributio...   Nov 21 2007, 08:46 PM
- - eidolon   Keep one thing in mind when discussing anything on...   Nov 21 2007, 09:14 PM
- - Cheops   I use the rules exactly as written with several cl...   Nov 21 2007, 09:23 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ..we only use a few houserules so far: ...Blakkie...   Nov 21 2007, 09:35 PM
- - Fortune   The thing is, most of us are Shadowrun fanatics an...   Nov 21 2007, 10:15 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...there are times I set up what are more guidelin...   Nov 21 2007, 10:42 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   I think some of us like to bash heads too   Nov 21 2007, 10:46 PM
- - Cheops   QUOTE (Fortune) Add to that the fact that some of ...   Nov 21 2007, 11:09 PM
- - bogomips   A couple of thoughts: - From a gameplay perspecti...   Nov 22 2007, 12:17 AM
- - Ryu   We use very few set-in-stone houserules. Beside th...   Nov 22 2007, 12:47 AM
- - Narse   I think the SR4 core rule are very strong. They do...   Nov 22 2007, 07:39 AM
- - Juca Bala   Well, I'm one of those guys that don't lik...   Nov 22 2007, 11:00 AM
- - Fuchs   Things we houseruled: - Melee combat (Ported over ...   Nov 22 2007, 12:27 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, current rules i like: Chax2 Contact Points(...   Nov 22 2007, 04:31 PM
- - Catharz Godfoot   QUOTE (ElFenrir) Also thinking about changing the ...   Nov 22 2007, 08:10 PM
- - Gelare   I remember sitting in the chair at my local game s...   Nov 23 2007, 02:34 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   i think the rules overall work brilliantly. I...   Nov 23 2007, 02:56 AM


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