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Snow_Fox
post Dec 29 2007, 03:52 AM
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I don't know if this will have much interest, and anything I get off I'm sure Raygun can correct. More details than you get in SR but something to consider for role playing.

After an unpleasant experience on a country road I realized I needed something heavier to carry with a suit than my little .25. so I picked up a .38sp S&W with very interesting extras but each had a trade off.
pros:
It was hammerless-meaning no spur sitting off the back to snag when you draw it,

A snub nose- only a 2in barrel so again easily fits into a pocket or bag.

light weight material so not too much drag on pockets.

Slim build for a revolver.

It has a laser sight, but this is set on the side, behind the cylinder just above my thumb, NOT under the barrel

Cons;
The lack of a hammer means it is definitely a double action gun but you cannot manually cock it, that means the pull is tougher than I'm use to. also the lack of a hammer was compensated by a slightly longer frame. No big deal in your hand but a stone bitch to fit into a holster. Officially a "J Frame" it did not fit into a S&W shoulder holster for a "J frame"

The snub nose, combined with the more powerful bullets means range is really limited. At my usual 50ft training range I was aiming so high I was getting badly frustrated. Finally I took out the .25, also with a 2 inch barrel and was relieved to see that hit with the accuracy I'm use to.

The light weight material kepts the drag on my cloths down BUT the material holds heat a LONG time and there was nothing to absorb the recoil. I've got a .357 mag with a 4 inch barrel and have a Mataba Uniqua that abuses the hell out of your ear drums even with padding and has a back blast of air right in your face but this little S&W had the nastiest kick of any gun I've ever fired.

It took about 2 full boxes (100 rounds) to get comfortable with the weapon and even then at 30 feet it was aiming high because of the kick-the guys at the range were shocked I was sticking with it.
This was just a .38sp and I was feeling it for days afterward. The same shelf in the store also had .50 magnums with a 2 inch barrel-great if your mugged by a killer whale but pretty much going to break your hand.

The slim build limits the chamber to only 5 bullets before you reload.

So these are pretty crappy trade offs but they are all logical. and for what I want the gun for it is still a great piece. If I don't need a fitted suit I can get away with my .380 beretta Cheetah.

Again I know this is far more detail than most SR games will come close to but it certainly gives food for thought, I hope.
One thing very interesting is the placement of a laser sight on the side, which opens up a lot of possibilities for other guns.
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- Snow_Fox   gun options   Dec 29 2007, 03:52 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   Well, in terms of weird placements of things on th...   Dec 29 2007, 04:28 AM
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