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ShaunClinton
post Jan 7 2008, 06:12 PM
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Hi guys,

Scanning through a whole bunch of posts on Essence costs for cyberware and practical limits I never saw any mention of the Surgery rules in M&M and how they relate to Essence costs.

Even using the rules exactly as written (which I don't, but close enough) it is pretty simple to get 2 or 3 reductions on most cybersurgery... especially if you get it installed in a superior facility.

Once you start talking about deltaware and adept-surgeons and the like then you can make even greater Essence reductions on implantation. In fact some of our PCs struggle to believe you could run out of Essence and take the cyberzombie plunge! Deltaware with 4 reductions means that you can get 20 Essence worth of 'ware into a normal guy!

Anyone else use said rules or what?
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- ShaunClinton   Cyberware Limits   Jan 7 2008, 06:12 PM
- - Karaden   Can we get a page number on those rules? But one ...   Jan 7 2008, 06:19 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Why would he want to do that, seeing as it's a...   Jan 7 2008, 06:26 PM
- - Karaden   My bad, thought it was a question about Augmentati...   Jan 7 2008, 07:23 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Now that I've got my books and some time (ok, ...   Jan 7 2008, 08:59 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   QUOTE (Karaden) why in the world are they not just...   Jan 7 2008, 09:25 PM
- - Karaden   Well, given that he said came up with about half a...   Jan 7 2008, 09:34 PM
- - Kagetenshi   The major flaw is that you first have to have all ...   Jan 7 2008, 09:35 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Karaden) But for the same investment you ca...   Jan 7 2008, 09:42 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) ... the lack of limit on assist...   Jan 7 2008, 09:44 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE Scanning through a whole bunch of posts on E...   Jan 8 2008, 01:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jan 8 2008, 08:10 AM) ...   Jan 8 2008, 01:16 PM
- - Stahlseele   QUOTE I scrapped the system *huggles* even if i d...   Jan 8 2008, 01:36 PM
- - ShaunClinton   I actually don't use the rules entirely as pre...   Jan 8 2008, 06:09 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (ShaunClinton @ Jan 8 2008, 01:09 PM) A...   Jan 8 2008, 06:16 PM
- - ShaunClinton   Hi Kagetenshi - based on my (and my players) inter...   Jan 8 2008, 07:42 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (ShaunClinton) Tensile Strengths... the list...   Jan 8 2008, 07:46 PM
- - Stahlseele   someone had better start explaining what this tens...   Jan 8 2008, 10:19 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Stahlseele) ... tonsil strength ... No,...   Jan 8 2008, 10:47 PM
- - Stahlseele   yes, i know . . we've got the obviously obliga...   Jan 8 2008, 10:54 PM
- - tisoz   I see one real limit to how much essence can be sh...   Jan 8 2008, 11:41 PM
- - Stahlseele   QUOTE The maximum rating of medical gear available...   Jan 8 2008, 11:44 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE The open test part of the equation isn't...   Jan 9 2008, 10:44 AM
- - Stahlseele   so technically speaking no medikit of level 8 for ...   Jan 9 2008, 11:56 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Stahlseele) so technically speaking no medi...   Jan 9 2008, 02:12 PM
- - Stahlseele   yes yes in augmentation(i still have to get my GM ...   Jan 9 2008, 02:37 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I believe Medical Equipment is specific equipment,...   Jan 9 2008, 02:42 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Stahlseele) ... but as we are here in the g...   Jan 9 2008, 02:50 PM
- - Stahlseele   *gg* i don't really care . . i like what you ...   Jan 9 2008, 02:53 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Fortune) I rarely even notice which of the ...   Jan 9 2008, 03:35 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jan 10 2008, 01:35 AM) Wa...   Jan 9 2008, 05:25 PM
- - ShaunClinton   Ha ha! Come on! What happens when one of t...   Jan 9 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Stahlseele   my GM quickly agreed to the Cyberlimbs being more ...   Jan 9 2008, 05:51 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Fortune @ Jan 9 2008, 12:25 PM) As to ...   Jan 9 2008, 05:56 PM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE As for this mythical +5 surgery modifier for...   Jan 9 2008, 05:57 PM
- - ShaunClinton   The better surgical tools mod is one I forgot abou...   Jan 9 2008, 06:00 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (ShaunClinton) However I still like the rule...   Jan 9 2008, 11:02 PM
- - Stahlseele   biggest problem i have wit the old style M&M M...   Jan 9 2008, 11:07 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) ... you're absolutely corre...   Jan 9 2008, 11:08 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 10 2008, 01:07 AM) bi...   Jan 9 2008, 11:11 PM
- - Stahlseele   well . . i usually use dice or throw of a coin for...   Jan 9 2008, 11:14 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Cochise) QUOTE (ShaunClinton @ Jan 9 2...   Jan 20 2008, 10:48 AM
- - FrankTrollman   Actually with seven hits on an already difficult E...   Jan 20 2008, 01:52 PM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (tisoz @ Jan 20 2008, 12:48 PM) Wow, wa...   Jan 21 2008, 08:19 PM


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