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post Feb 2 2008, 09:54 AM
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OK, I just got the PDF for Arsenal today, and was going through it, and, I admit, there is alot of absolutely cool stuff in there. However, there are also somethings that I just looked at, looked at for a long moment, and went "WTF?!"

The one that sticks out in my head:

The FLYING gun that shoots people combo! Page 152: Piloting Upgrade+ Flight Propulsion. I am sorry, but who cares that its 20K to make the thing fly, and 3 K to make a weapon have a basic Pilot rating of 3...it is a FLYING GUN! WTF?!

The "I can't believe they put that in there!" thing is:

Pimped Ride, p 141. Seriously! Who would WANT people to recognize their vehicle?(though the idea, suddenly, of the old movie, Zorro, the Gay Blade does come to mind...)

And a "I can't believe they never had this before:"

Interior Cameras, p 138. Admittedly, I always assumed that sensor included these, and that was part of the Rigger Adaptation in the old rules(After all..why else would RA have taken up so much space in vehicles that have autopilots, anyway?)

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- Cardul   Arsenal Wtfs   Feb 2 2008, 09:54 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Cardul) Pimped Ride, p 141. Seriously! ...   Feb 2 2008, 10:50 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   The once german-only abomination called Hi-C round...   Feb 2 2008, 10:57 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (knasser) ... in an age where the world popu...   Feb 2 2008, 11:36 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Fortune) QUOTE (knasser @ Feb 2 2008, ...   Feb 2 2008, 11:43 AM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (Fortune)As far as I know, throughout Shadow...   Feb 2 2008, 01:05 PM
- - Fortinbras   And what's up with Carrolmeleg sucking beyond ...   Feb 2 2008, 01:44 PM
- - ixombie   QUOTE (knasser) Shadowrun was partly formed from t...   Feb 2 2008, 01:59 PM
- - Jaid   i assume traffic would be as bad or worse because ...   Feb 2 2008, 10:17 PM
- - Prime Mover   QUOTE (Cardul @ Feb 2 2008, 04:54 AM) OK,...   Feb 2 2008, 10:17 PM
- - Whipstitch   The flying gun is flaming pile of crap. You know w...   Feb 2 2008, 10:32 PM
|- - Fix-it   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 2 2008, 10:32 PM)...   Feb 4 2008, 05:26 PM
- - imperialus   We ended up with a pimped ride during our HK campa...   Feb 2 2008, 10:59 PM
- - Fortune   I've seen, and even used that type of thing qu...   Feb 2 2008, 11:06 PM
|- - Konsaki   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 2 2008, 06:06 PM) I...   Feb 2 2008, 11:16 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 3 2008, 12:06 AM) Th...   Feb 3 2008, 12:44 AM
|- - CircuitBoyBlue   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 2 2008, 06:06 PM) Th...   Feb 3 2008, 06:29 PM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (CircuitBoyBlue @ Feb 3 2008, 01:29...   Feb 3 2008, 06:48 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Hi-C rounds were in Cannon Companion, so there was...   Feb 3 2008, 12:54 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Feb 2 2008, 08:54 PM) ...   Feb 3 2008, 01:12 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Grinder)Like there is life outside of dumps...   Feb 3 2008, 12:55 AM
- - Ravor   Pimping your ride and peace makes perfect sense to...   Feb 3 2008, 01:32 AM
- - hyzmarca   My first thought when I saw the endoscope gun modi...   Feb 3 2008, 02:09 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...I was hoping for so much with the martial arts ...   Feb 3 2008, 04:15 AM
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- - TonkaTuff   The strength recoil rules were included. Page 163....   Feb 3 2008, 05:09 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...oh, OK haven't been through everything in d...   Feb 3 2008, 05:26 AM
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