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Hi all,
I have been a long time fan of Shadowrun. It always pained me that SR had a great setting saddled with horrible rules. I've been very excited to see the rules changes. Here are a few of my thoughts. I'd love some feedback and ideas please. 1. Combat is still slow. I tried getting rid of resisting damage, but it was unfair to heavy body types. Now I just rule of 4 all of that unless the players want to try to save their hides. The book has some good suggestions, anyone found anything that works well? 2. Why are the PDF files so expensive? Hey, Catalyst! Make Them Cheaper. Way cheaper... If you make them $5, everyone I know would buy them. PDF files aren't as handy as a book. They get lost. You can't read them without a computer. They're cumbersome to use in play... Their perceived value is far less than that of a book. Besides, it's not like you have to pay to have them made. Sheesh. 3. Is it just me or is the setting kind of lacking now? It seems that the SR setting is branching beyond Seattle, but at the expense of any real depth for all these new settings. Oh, and the history in the beginning of the book isn't as good any more. It has to skim over too much. I just bought Corporate Enclaves..... Nothing about Seattle. Nothing about the day to day life of Joe Average in 2070. I was hoping for something like the Sprawl Survival Guide. I'm not too impressed with Augmentation either. They were both expensive and not that interesting. 4. Rigging and Decking rock now. It's amazing and wonderful. Job Well Done. Thanks all! -Tony This post has been edited by Redjack: Feb 2 2008, 08:55 PM
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whistlingtony My Thoughts On Sr4 Feb 2 2008, 02:14 PM
MaxHunter For Seattle you should have got Runner Havens. I d... Feb 2 2008, 02:20 PM
Whipstitch Uh, there's guys like me who own only the main... Feb 2 2008, 10:16 PM
Prime Mover Got all books in hardcover accept GM screen, easie... Feb 2 2008, 10:26 PM
imperialus QUOTE 3. Is it just me or is the setting kind of ... Feb 2 2008, 10:54 PM
Caine Hazen QUOTE (whistlingtony @ Feb 2 2008, 09:14 ... Feb 2 2008, 11:17 PM
Method I don't mind paying for the pdf or the books. ... Feb 2 2008, 11:40 PM
Ravor I have to second the notion that Fourth Edition... Feb 3 2008, 01:14 AM
BishopMcQ It's true that the SR4 line is leaning away fr... Feb 3 2008, 01:38 AM
Ravor Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't ahve a pro... Feb 3 2008, 01:51 AM
Ancient History People are always gonna hate Runner Havens 'ca... Feb 3 2008, 01:54 AM
Casper QUOTE (Ancient History @ Feb 3 2008, 01:5... Feb 3 2008, 09:08 PM
Whipstitch For what it's worth all my friends who never p... Feb 3 2008, 01:58 AM
Malicant I like Runner Havens because it was not a Seattle ... Feb 3 2008, 01:59 AM
Naysayer Yeah, maybe it's because Seattles been with me... Feb 3 2008, 02:55 AM
Adam QUOTE (whistlingtony @ Feb 2 2008, 09:14 ... Feb 3 2008, 06:48 AM
Kyoto Kid ...I have no issue with the price on the PDFs. I ... Feb 3 2008, 06:56 AM
imperialus QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 2 2008, 11:56 PM) ... Feb 3 2008, 07:17 AM
Cain I can't say that I care for Runner Havens that... Feb 3 2008, 09:09 AM
Ancient History QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 3 2008, 09:09 AM) I can... Feb 3 2008, 01:07 PM
DeadLogic Personally, I like the new approach that's bei... Feb 3 2008, 10:23 AM
Cardul OK, you know..I have to say that I like Runner Hav... Feb 3 2008, 12:46 PM
DocTaotsu I freaking hate PDF, maybe I'm doing it wrong ... Feb 3 2008, 01:17 PM
Ravor QUOTE (Ancient History)People are always gonna hat... Feb 3 2008, 04:44 PM
Mattily At first I hated the pdfs, they were horribly slow... Feb 3 2008, 05:08 PM
Wounded Ronin I think if PDFs make your system unstable the prob... Feb 3 2008, 05:12 PM
It trolls! QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Feb 3 2008, 06:12 ... Feb 3 2008, 05:30 PM
arathian QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Feb 3 2008, 01:12 ... Feb 4 2008, 08:53 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Feb 3 2008, 12:12 ... Feb 4 2008, 11:19 AM
Mattily I changed from Adobe Reader to PDF-Xchange viewer ... Feb 3 2008, 05:36 PM
hobgoblin adobe reader is just a mess, its so bloated that i... Feb 3 2008, 05:55 PM
MYST1C QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 3 2008, 06:55 PM) ... Feb 3 2008, 06:03 PM
hobgoblin QUOTE (MYST1C @ Feb 3 2008, 07:03 PM) 128... Feb 3 2008, 06:07 PM
MYST1C Actually, Adobe Reader can be necessary for some p... Feb 3 2008, 06:00 PM
Connor QUOTE (MYST1C @ Feb 3 2008, 12:00 PM) Act... Feb 4 2008, 05:05 AM
Daier Mune QUOTE (whistlingtony @ Feb 2 2008, 09:14 ... Feb 3 2008, 06:53 PM
hobgoblin most "quick" battle systems seems to do ... Feb 3 2008, 07:05 PM
Cain QUOTE 1. I think slow combat is just apart of the ... Feb 3 2008, 07:06 PM
knasser QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 3 2008, 07:06 PM) Does ... Feb 3 2008, 07:42 PM
the_dunner Exalted is different from SR. It *can* go a littl... Feb 3 2008, 07:56 PM
BishopMcQ All in all, it comes down to personal preference. ... Feb 3 2008, 08:17 PM
Cain QUOTE (knasser @ Feb 3 2008, 11:42 AM) On... Feb 3 2008, 08:26 PM
hobgoblin http://www.megatokyo.com/strip/750 Feb 3 2008, 08:32 PM
Blade You can't have a system that's both fast a... Feb 3 2008, 09:27 PM
Cain I don;t think there's much of anyone who disli... Feb 3 2008, 09:35 PM
Blade I played some games with Savage Worlds and - even ... Feb 3 2008, 10:02 PM
Cain QUOTE (Blade @ Feb 3 2008, 02:02 PM) I pl... Feb 4 2008, 06:04 AM
dog_xinu QUOTE (whistlingtony @ Feb 2 2008, 09:14 ... Feb 4 2008, 04:40 AM
krakjen PDF-Xchange Viewer is good too. Feb 4 2008, 05:57 AM
Mattily I miss pools. Feb 4 2008, 08:45 AM
Adam I used a different method when making the Arsenal ... Feb 4 2008, 01:35 PM
knasser Interesting. My machine is reasonably specc'd ... Feb 4 2008, 06:32 PM
Adam QUOTE (knasser @ Feb 4 2008, 01:32 PM) My... Feb 5 2008, 03:31 AM
Cardul QUOTE (Adam @ Feb 4 2008, 11:31 PM) I... Feb 5 2008, 12:01 PM
augurer I understand that creating a PDF isn't "n... Feb 4 2008, 11:58 PM
Whipstitch I dunno, in the age of internet piracy I kind of t... Feb 5 2008, 01:05 AM
Cain QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 4 2008, 05:05 PM)... Feb 5 2008, 01:32 AM
It trolls! QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 5 2008, 02:05 AM)... Feb 5 2008, 01:35 AM
Cthulhudreams Having played 3/3.5 D&D alot, mage, changeling... Feb 5 2008, 01:23 AM
BFaolan I was, but now I go back I'm not.
(Gotta love... Feb 5 2008, 03:34 AM
Kanada Ten I think the combo cost is a little high (with the ... Feb 5 2008, 03:45 AM
knasser The PDFs are well priced in my opinion, though got... Feb 5 2008, 07:24 AM
Moon-Hawk I really wish they'd do the same thing Paizo i... Feb 5 2008, 03:52 PM
Adam Paizo is doing a lot of cool stuff, but I'm ju... Feb 6 2008, 10:12 AM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Adam @ Feb 6 2008, 05:12 AM) Paizo... Feb 6 2008, 04:16 PM![]() ![]() |
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