Feb 5 2008, 06:33 AM
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Incompetence is an easily exploited Negative Quality. A PC with incompetence in Pilot Anthroform and in Bows will likely never suffer any consequences, assuming they have easy access to some other vehicle and some other weapon. On another hand, a PC with Incompetence in Perception (or, if Awakened, Assensing) will get difficulties worth well more than the 5 BP. So what's in the middle ground?
Incompetence: Navigation - when played as having no sense of direction, and getting lost or taking the wrong turn even in situations which do not require a Navigation check. Eg when runnning out of the Aztechnology facility, holding the McGuffin, chased by security, everyone else automatically succeeds at going out the way they came in, but the Incompetent one might take a wrong turn and end up in a dead end. (Still lots of ways to work around it, eg following a teammate, but having to always stay near teammates to avoid problems is a disadvantage.) Incompetence: Dodge for someone who never flinches, whose only style of fighting is Irish Stand-down. Stacks well with the Wolf Mentor inhibition against retreating from a fight. (Cheesy, though, if you have high Gymnastics and use Gymnastic Dodge.) Incompetence: Con for the person who can't lie to save her life. Could still be good at Negotiation, though, as long as she has something to offer which she considers a good deal; could be a plus to Leadership if the followers know that their briefings and orders are *never* bullshot. Incompetence: Climbing as a side effect of acrophobia. Others? This post has been edited by Redjack: Feb 10 2008, 02:26 PM
Reason for edit: Flagged as sr4
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Riley37 Incompetence Feb 5 2008, 06:33 AM
Cain There isn't much of a middle ground. If the I... Feb 5 2008, 06:51 AM
ShadowDragon8685 Sadly, flaws in Shadowrun (and most games, actuall... Feb 5 2008, 07:00 AM
Cthulhudreams My perspective is - who gives a toss? 'Role pl... Feb 5 2008, 07:13 AM
Seven-7 QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Feb 5 2008, 03:13 ... Feb 10 2008, 06:53 AM
Glyph Incompetence is not that big a deal. It gives you... Feb 5 2008, 07:30 AM
Jhaiisiin I agree that the Incompetence quality is easily ab... Feb 5 2008, 08:19 AM
Fortune QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 5 2008, 07:19 PM) ... Feb 5 2008, 08:24 AM

Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Jhaiisiin)And for the record Cain, you mus... Feb 5 2008, 09:47 PM

Fortune QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 6 2008, 08:47 AM) ... Feb 5 2008, 10:30 PM

Mr. Unpronounceable QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 5 2008, 10:30 PM) Re... Feb 6 2008, 12:41 AM

Fortune QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 6 2008, 11... Feb 6 2008, 12:54 AM

Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 5 2008, 04:54 PM) I ... Feb 6 2008, 03:09 AM

ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 5 2008, 10:09 PM) ... Feb 6 2008, 03:14 AM
Ryu QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 5 2008, 09:19 AM) ... Feb 5 2008, 12:28 PM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 5 2008, 03:19 AM) ... Feb 5 2008, 10:38 PM
Fuchs From the "the two elves drop their LMGs and g... Feb 5 2008, 08:40 AM
ElFenrir Well, really sometimes it depends on the character... Feb 5 2008, 09:00 AM
Blade I consider that to be 5 points worth, incompetence... Feb 5 2008, 09:42 AM
It trolls! In my experience there's a correlation between... Feb 5 2008, 10:58 AM
Blade Yes, that's why I prefer refusing exploits in ... Feb 5 2008, 11:08 AM
Fortune As a GM, I very rarely worry about that type of th... Feb 5 2008, 11:13 AM
Cardul In the game my GM is planning, our Samurai has Inc... Feb 5 2008, 11:47 AM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Cardul @ Feb 5 2008, 06:47 AM) In ... Feb 5 2008, 10:42 PM
Caine Hazen You say it like you think that my incompetence: Fi... Feb 5 2008, 01:16 PM
Ryu No, that is hitting the middle ground IMO. Feb 5 2008, 01:33 PM
Magus Incompetence Running is hilaroious though. I have ... Feb 5 2008, 01:43 PM
DTFarstar Incompetence : First Aid forever denies whoever is... Feb 5 2008, 02:19 PM
Madrigan It also makes a difference if the character is awa... Feb 5 2008, 02:37 PM
Ryu The worst I´ve actually had submitted to me is In... Feb 5 2008, 09:33 PM
Jackstand QUOTE (Ryu @ Feb 5 2008, 05:33 PM) The wo... Feb 6 2008, 01:24 AM
Mercer My favorite was my phys ad with Incompetence: Thro... Feb 5 2008, 11:05 PM
ElFenrir Buddy of mine has a guy with Incompetence: Intimid... Feb 5 2008, 11:38 PM
Feshy I always enjoyed making hackers with incompetence:... Feb 6 2008, 01:45 AM
kanislatrans QUOTE (Feshy @ Feb 5 2008, 08:45 PM) The ... Feb 6 2008, 03:07 PM
djinni QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 5 2008, 06:38 PM) N... Feb 6 2008, 01:54 AM
Cain The problem here is that Incompetences tend to jum... Feb 6 2008, 02:03 AM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 5 2008, 09:03 PM) The p... Feb 9 2008, 05:02 PM
Fortune QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 10 2008, 04:02 AM) ... Feb 9 2008, 05:06 PM

MaxMahem QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 12:06 PM) Wh... Feb 9 2008, 05:13 PM

Rasumichin QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 06:06 PM) Wh... Feb 9 2008, 06:26 PM
Cain QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 9 2008, 09:02 AM) I... Feb 9 2008, 06:33 PM
Jackstand QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 9 2008, 01:02 PM) A... Feb 10 2008, 06:25 AM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Jackstand @ Feb 10 2008, 02:25 AM)... Feb 10 2008, 08:14 AM
DTFarstar I still need like 1800 posts. Teach me to stay sil... Feb 6 2008, 04:11 AM
Fortune Well, one thing is for sure. Very few Dumpshockers... Feb 6 2008, 04:45 AM
DocTaotsu Social incompentencies are something I find endles... Feb 6 2008, 01:19 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ Feb 6 2008, 02:19 PM) ... Feb 6 2008, 01:25 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Feb 7 2008, 12:25 AM)... Feb 6 2008, 01:31 PM
Rasumichin Admittedly, various incompetences allow for more e... Feb 6 2008, 01:47 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Feb 7 2008, 12:47 AM)... Feb 6 2008, 01:53 PM
Ryu If all karma you paid extra was counted against bu... Feb 6 2008, 02:10 PM
DocTaotsu If you're taking a negative I hope you're ... Feb 6 2008, 02:17 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 6 2008, 02:53 PM) Th... Feb 6 2008, 02:18 PM
Raizer In my campaign I allowed our mage to take Incompet... Feb 6 2008, 03:21 PM
Ravor Fragging double post.
*Edit*
I guess I must have... Feb 6 2008, 05:08 PM
Ravor Arcana for Mages, sure, it prevents them from desi... Feb 6 2008, 05:09 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (Ravor @ Feb 6 2008, 06:09 PM) Arca... Feb 6 2008, 05:27 PM
Ravor Yeah but awhile back someone posted a poll asking ... Feb 6 2008, 06:01 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (Ravor @ Feb 6 2008, 07:01 PM) Yeah... Feb 9 2008, 02:46 PM
Ravor Sure, but the same can be said of virtually every ... Feb 9 2008, 04:36 PM
Fortune Not being able to default to a skill is not the sa... Feb 9 2008, 06:32 PM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 01:32 PM) No... Feb 9 2008, 07:01 PM
Fortune QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 10 2008, 06:01 AM) ... Feb 9 2008, 07:08 PM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 02:08 PM) Th... Feb 9 2008, 07:14 PM
Whipstitch Eh, n/m, reread something that changed my stance a... Feb 10 2008, 06:33 AM
ixombie To me, the merits of an incompetence flaw depend o... Feb 10 2008, 06:53 AM
Cain QUOTE I don't know what you mean by player vol... Feb 10 2008, 08:14 AM
MaxMahem Sorry for the double post, Cain caught me mid-post... Feb 10 2008, 08:29 AM
Cain QUOTE Some GMs might, but it would be unfair to sa... Feb 10 2008, 09:16 AM
Fortune QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 10 2008, 08:16 PM) And ... Feb 10 2008, 11:17 AM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 10 2008, 05:16 AM) Whic... Feb 11 2008, 12:14 AM
Fortune QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 11 2008, 11:14 AM) ... Feb 11 2008, 12:40 AM
ElFenrir Heh, my way of taking care of Incompetences is ... Feb 10 2008, 10:32 AM
ElFenrir QUOTE Incidentally, I have only ever had one playe... Feb 10 2008, 01:25 PM
Cain QUOTE Do you need to highlight it? Isn't not h... Feb 10 2008, 06:02 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 11 2008, 05:02 AM) Unde... Feb 10 2008, 07:59 PM
Cain QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 10 2008, 11:59 AM) Q... Feb 10 2008, 08:55 PM
ElFenrir Incompetences seem to cause more unrest among GMs ... Feb 10 2008, 09:03 PM
Fortune I don't have the books any more the check. Feb 10 2008, 09:03 PM
ElFenrir It's in the 3e Companion. Basically, the way i... Feb 10 2008, 09:09 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Elfenrir)So yeah, you could buy off that an... Feb 11 2008, 12:36 AM
Cain QUOTE So yeah, you could buy off that annoying mil... Feb 11 2008, 05:00 AM
Ed_209a I used Incomps in my current character to represen... Feb 11 2008, 03:57 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Ed_209a @ Feb 12 2008, 02:57 AM) T... Feb 11 2008, 05:09 PM
Ed_209a QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 11 2008, 12:09 PM) T... Feb 11 2008, 06:25 PM![]() ![]() |
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