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post Feb 5 2008, 06:33 AM
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Incompetence is an easily exploited Negative Quality. A PC with incompetence in Pilot Anthroform and in Bows will likely never suffer any consequences, assuming they have easy access to some other vehicle and some other weapon. On another hand, a PC with Incompetence in Perception (or, if Awakened, Assensing) will get difficulties worth well more than the 5 BP. So what's in the middle ground?

Incompetence: Navigation - when played as having no sense of direction, and getting lost or taking the wrong turn even in situations which do not require a Navigation check. Eg when runnning out of the Aztechnology facility, holding the McGuffin, chased by security, everyone else automatically succeeds at going out the way they came in, but the Incompetent one might take a wrong turn and end up in a dead end. (Still lots of ways to work around it, eg following a teammate, but having to always stay near teammates to avoid problems is a disadvantage.)

Incompetence: Dodge for someone who never flinches, whose only style of fighting is Irish Stand-down. Stacks well with the Wolf Mentor inhibition against retreating from a fight. (Cheesy, though, if you have high Gymnastics and use Gymnastic Dodge.)

Incompetence: Con for the person who can't lie to save her life. Could still be good at Negotiation, though, as long as she has something to offer which she considers a good deal; could be a plus to Leadership if the followers know that their briefings and orders are *never* bullshot.

Incompetence: Climbing as a side effect of acrophobia.

Others?

This post has been edited by Redjack: Feb 10 2008, 02:26 PM
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- Riley37   Incompetence   Feb 5 2008, 06:33 AM
- - Cain   There isn't much of a middle ground. If the I...   Feb 5 2008, 06:51 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Sadly, flaws in Shadowrun (and most games, actuall...   Feb 5 2008, 07:00 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   My perspective is - who gives a toss? 'Role pl...   Feb 5 2008, 07:13 AM
|- - Seven-7   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Feb 5 2008, 03:13 ...   Feb 10 2008, 06:53 AM
- - Glyph   Incompetence is not that big a deal. It gives you...   Feb 5 2008, 07:30 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   I agree that the Incompetence quality is easily ab...   Feb 5 2008, 08:19 AM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 5 2008, 07:19 PM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 08:24 AM
||- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin)And for the record Cain, you mus...   Feb 5 2008, 09:47 PM
||- - Fortune   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 6 2008, 08:47 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 10:30 PM
||- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 5 2008, 10:30 PM) Re...   Feb 6 2008, 12:41 AM
||- - Fortune   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 6 2008, 11...   Feb 6 2008, 12:54 AM
||- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 5 2008, 04:54 PM) I ...   Feb 6 2008, 03:09 AM
||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 5 2008, 10:09 PM) ...   Feb 6 2008, 03:14 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 5 2008, 09:19 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 12:28 PM
|- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 5 2008, 03:19 AM) ...   Feb 5 2008, 10:38 PM
- - Fuchs   From the "the two elves drop their LMGs and g...   Feb 5 2008, 08:40 AM
- - ElFenrir   Well, really sometimes it depends on the character...   Feb 5 2008, 09:00 AM
- - Blade   I consider that to be 5 points worth, incompetence...   Feb 5 2008, 09:42 AM
- - It trolls!   In my experience there's a correlation between...   Feb 5 2008, 10:58 AM
- - Blade   Yes, that's why I prefer refusing exploits in ...   Feb 5 2008, 11:08 AM
- - Fortune   As a GM, I very rarely worry about that type of th...   Feb 5 2008, 11:13 AM
- - Cardul   In the game my GM is planning, our Samurai has Inc...   Feb 5 2008, 11:47 AM
|- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Cardul @ Feb 5 2008, 06:47 AM) In ...   Feb 5 2008, 10:42 PM
- - Caine Hazen   You say it like you think that my incompetence: Fi...   Feb 5 2008, 01:16 PM
- - Ryu   No, that is hitting the middle ground IMO.   Feb 5 2008, 01:33 PM
- - Magus   Incompetence Running is hilaroious though. I have ...   Feb 5 2008, 01:43 PM
- - DTFarstar   Incompetence : First Aid forever denies whoever is...   Feb 5 2008, 02:19 PM
- - Madrigan   It also makes a difference if the character is awa...   Feb 5 2008, 02:37 PM
- - Ryu   The worst I´ve actually had submitted to me is In...   Feb 5 2008, 09:33 PM
|- - Jackstand   QUOTE (Ryu @ Feb 5 2008, 05:33 PM) The wo...   Feb 6 2008, 01:24 AM
- - Mercer   My favorite was my phys ad with Incompetence: Thro...   Feb 5 2008, 11:05 PM
- - ElFenrir   Buddy of mine has a guy with Incompetence: Intimid...   Feb 5 2008, 11:38 PM
- - Feshy   I always enjoyed making hackers with incompetence:...   Feb 6 2008, 01:45 AM
|- - kanislatrans   QUOTE (Feshy @ Feb 5 2008, 08:45 PM) The ...   Feb 6 2008, 03:07 PM
- - djinni   QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 5 2008, 06:38 PM) N...   Feb 6 2008, 01:54 AM
- - Cain   The problem here is that Incompetences tend to jum...   Feb 6 2008, 02:03 AM
|- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 5 2008, 09:03 PM) The p...   Feb 9 2008, 05:02 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 10 2008, 04:02 AM) ...   Feb 9 2008, 05:06 PM
||- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 12:06 PM) Wh...   Feb 9 2008, 05:13 PM
||- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 06:06 PM) Wh...   Feb 9 2008, 06:26 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 9 2008, 09:02 AM) I...   Feb 9 2008, 06:33 PM
|- - Jackstand   QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 9 2008, 01:02 PM) A...   Feb 10 2008, 06:25 AM
|- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Jackstand @ Feb 10 2008, 02:25 AM)...   Feb 10 2008, 08:14 AM
- - DTFarstar   I still need like 1800 posts. Teach me to stay sil...   Feb 6 2008, 04:11 AM
- - Fortune   Well, one thing is for sure. Very few Dumpshockers...   Feb 6 2008, 04:45 AM
- - DocTaotsu   Social incompentencies are something I find endles...   Feb 6 2008, 01:19 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ Feb 6 2008, 02:19 PM) ...   Feb 6 2008, 01:25 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Feb 7 2008, 12:25 AM)...   Feb 6 2008, 01:31 PM
- - Rasumichin   Admittedly, various incompetences allow for more e...   Feb 6 2008, 01:47 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Feb 7 2008, 12:47 AM)...   Feb 6 2008, 01:53 PM
- - Ryu   If all karma you paid extra was counted against bu...   Feb 6 2008, 02:10 PM
- - DocTaotsu   If you're taking a negative I hope you're ...   Feb 6 2008, 02:17 PM
- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 6 2008, 02:53 PM) Th...   Feb 6 2008, 02:18 PM
- - Raizer   In my campaign I allowed our mage to take Incompet...   Feb 6 2008, 03:21 PM
- - Ravor   Fragging double post. *Edit* I guess I must have...   Feb 6 2008, 05:08 PM
- - Ravor   Arcana for Mages, sure, it prevents them from desi...   Feb 6 2008, 05:09 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Ravor @ Feb 6 2008, 06:09 PM) Arca...   Feb 6 2008, 05:27 PM
- - Ravor   Yeah but awhile back someone posted a poll asking ...   Feb 6 2008, 06:01 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Ravor @ Feb 6 2008, 07:01 PM) Yeah...   Feb 9 2008, 02:46 PM
- - Ravor   Sure, but the same can be said of virtually every ...   Feb 9 2008, 04:36 PM
- - Fortune   Not being able to default to a skill is not the sa...   Feb 9 2008, 06:32 PM
|- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 01:32 PM) No...   Feb 9 2008, 07:01 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 10 2008, 06:01 AM) ...   Feb 9 2008, 07:08 PM
|- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 9 2008, 02:08 PM) Th...   Feb 9 2008, 07:14 PM
- - Whipstitch   Eh, n/m, reread something that changed my stance a...   Feb 10 2008, 06:33 AM
- - ixombie   To me, the merits of an incompetence flaw depend o...   Feb 10 2008, 06:53 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE I don't know what you mean by player vol...   Feb 10 2008, 08:14 AM
|- - MaxMahem   Sorry for the double post, Cain caught me mid-post...   Feb 10 2008, 08:29 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE Some GMs might, but it would be unfair to sa...   Feb 10 2008, 09:16 AM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 10 2008, 08:16 PM) And ...   Feb 10 2008, 11:17 AM
|- - MaxMahem   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 10 2008, 05:16 AM) Whic...   Feb 11 2008, 12:14 AM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (MaxMahem @ Feb 11 2008, 11:14 AM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 12:40 AM
- - ElFenrir   Heh, my way of taking care of Incompetences is ...   Feb 10 2008, 10:32 AM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE Incidentally, I have only ever had one playe...   Feb 10 2008, 01:25 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Do you need to highlight it? Isn't not h...   Feb 10 2008, 06:02 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 11 2008, 05:02 AM) Unde...   Feb 10 2008, 07:59 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 10 2008, 11:59 AM) Q...   Feb 10 2008, 08:55 PM
- - ElFenrir   Incompetences seem to cause more unrest among GMs ...   Feb 10 2008, 09:03 PM
- - Fortune   I don't have the books any more the check.   Feb 10 2008, 09:03 PM
- - ElFenrir   It's in the 3e Companion. Basically, the way i...   Feb 10 2008, 09:09 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Elfenrir)So yeah, you could buy off that an...   Feb 11 2008, 12:36 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE So yeah, you could buy off that annoying mil...   Feb 11 2008, 05:00 AM
- - Ed_209a   I used Incomps in my current character to represen...   Feb 11 2008, 03:57 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Ed_209a @ Feb 12 2008, 02:57 AM) T...   Feb 11 2008, 05:09 PM
- - Ed_209a   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 11 2008, 12:09 PM) T...   Feb 11 2008, 06:25 PM


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