Feb 5 2008, 10:56 PM
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I had a quick question.
I heard from a few friends who play SR3, that SR4 isn't any good. A few of the problems they said to me was that there is no room for improvement, and that a character straight out of chargen is extremely overpowered. I was also told that the rules for Deckers ("hackers" in sr4) are not even any good and hard to use. I just wanna hear from some of you players how it is, and how you felt making the switch. Also, which books are a must? I know I need SR3, Augmentation, Arsenal, but is there a sourcebook for deckers/hackers and magic? Thanks! |
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DarkShadow Sr4 Question From An Sr3 Player! Feb 5 2008, 10:56 PM
Stahlseele for magic there is the appropriately named street ... Feb 5 2008, 11:01 PM
Lionhearted Yes Decking is piece of cake in these days (once y... Feb 5 2008, 11:01 PM
Grinder Street Magic is the magic book and available in PD... Feb 5 2008, 11:02 PM
Grinder QUOTE (DarkShadow @ Feb 5 2008, 11:56 PM)... Feb 5 2008, 11:03 PM
Redjack As a player since sr1 here is my input:
I like th... Feb 5 2008, 11:07 PM
It trolls! There are official SR3->SR4 character conversio... Feb 5 2008, 11:11 PM
Stahlseele well, the modified versions of the mundane climber... Feb 5 2008, 11:18 PM
ElFenrir I tend to agree; except for a couple of the famous... Feb 5 2008, 11:27 PM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (DarkShadow @ Feb 5 2008, 11:56 PM)... Feb 5 2008, 11:50 PM
Fortune N/M Feb 6 2008, 12:21 AM
Mercer Yeah, speaking as a member of a group just convert... Feb 6 2008, 12:18 AM
Rotbart van Dainig Actually, guns do a lot more damage in SR4. Even H... Feb 6 2008, 12:26 AM
DarkShadow Thanks for the quick replies. I'm planning to ... Feb 6 2008, 01:34 AM
Cain QUOTE There is room for improvement, be it for mag... Feb 6 2008, 02:30 AM
Glyph For Attributes: you can start out with one Attribu... Feb 6 2008, 04:17 AM
DTFarstar Average negative combat modifier in my game is abo... Feb 6 2008, 04:43 AM
Cain QUOTE Magic and Resonance (the Attribute used by t... Feb 6 2008, 05:29 AM
Glyph I agree that technomancers suck, but I wasn't ... Feb 6 2008, 06:29 AM
Blade I had to reread your post several time to make sur... Feb 6 2008, 11:11 AM
Cain QUOTE In SR3, characters started as experienced ru... Feb 6 2008, 12:00 PM
Cardul QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 6 2008, 12:17 AM) For ... Feb 6 2008, 12:38 PM
DireRadiant QUOTE (DarkShadow @ Feb 5 2008, 06:56 PM)... Feb 6 2008, 03:32 PM
Ravor Also something to remember is that due to the natu... Feb 6 2008, 05:31 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable Meh - the "no room for improvement" line... Feb 6 2008, 05:54 PM
Cain QUOTE Meh - the "no room for improvement... Feb 6 2008, 06:43 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 6 2008, 06:43 PM) The n... Feb 6 2008, 07:48 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 7 2008, 06... Feb 6 2008, 10:24 PM
ElFenrir QUOTE I'd have to disagree on this point. SR4 ... Feb 6 2008, 06:45 PM
Blade In SR4 getting a Quickness of 9 is strictly imposs... Feb 6 2008, 08:57 PM
Grinder Ah, minor details. Feb 6 2008, 09:05 PM
nathanross QUOTE (Blade @ Posted Today, 03:57 PM)In SR4... Feb 6 2008, 09:58 PM
Ryu QUOTE (nathanross @ Feb 6 2008, 10:58 PM)... Feb 6 2008, 11:25 PM
Cain QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 6 2008, 11... Feb 6 2008, 10:27 PM
Cardul QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 6 2008, 06:27 PM) I was... Feb 6 2008, 10:56 PM
Eurotroll QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 6 2008, 11:27 PM) Don... Feb 6 2008, 10:59 PM
Stahlseele wasn't quickness split into agility and reacti... Feb 6 2008, 10:32 PM
Naysayer Muscle Replacement is rating x5 availability, so l... Feb 6 2008, 10:54 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable Heh - I kept autotranslating quickness into reacti... Feb 6 2008, 10:59 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 7 2008, 09... Feb 6 2008, 11:11 PM
Stahlseele no mali in SR4 either, just lowered maximum, the m... Feb 6 2008, 11:04 PM
Naysayer Hmm... Reaction Enhancers (2) + Synaptic Watchamaj... Feb 6 2008, 11:19 PM
Whipstitch You just buy 5 reaction as per normal, Naysayer. I... Feb 6 2008, 11:29 PM
Naysayer Yeah, I kinda figured that too, but since there wa... Feb 6 2008, 11:39 PM
Whipstitch It's actually not that hard at all to get most... Feb 7 2008, 12:09 AM
Naysayer Well, being a somewhat dumb, crappy conversational... Feb 7 2008, 12:25 AM
Whipstitch Pretty much, but epic dicefests hit me as more use... Feb 7 2008, 12:36 AM
Cain QUOTE wasn't quickness split into agility and ... Feb 7 2008, 03:37 AM
BishopMcQ Cain--I would question whether or not renaming an ... Feb 7 2008, 04:21 AM
Fortune QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Feb 7 2008, 03:21 PM) ... Feb 7 2008, 05:10 AM
Cardul QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Feb 7 2008, 12:21 AM) ... Feb 7 2008, 06:22 AM
Cain QUOTE I would question whether or not renaming an ... Feb 7 2008, 05:08 AM
Malicant QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 7 2008, 06:08 AM) The s... Feb 7 2008, 01:18 PM
Fortune I have to agree with Cardul about Genetic Optimiza... Feb 7 2008, 06:26 AM
Cardul QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 7 2008, 02:26 AM) I ... Feb 7 2008, 06:46 AM
Fortune Shrug. Which therefore means Exceptional Attribute... Feb 7 2008, 06:51 AM
Glyph You can't really max out most Physical Attribu... Feb 7 2008, 07:39 AM
Blade Come on, why did they have to call it SR4? It had ... Feb 7 2008, 03:05 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Blade @ Feb 8 2008, 02:05 AM) If I... Feb 7 2008, 03:27 PM
krakjen They lose their power at puberty and SR4 is set in... Feb 7 2008, 07:11 PM
Malicant QUOTE (krakjen @ Feb 7 2008, 08:11 PM) Th... Feb 7 2008, 07:50 PM
krakjen QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:50 PM) O... Feb 7 2008, 10:18 PM
Cain QUOTE Decker is a really old term nobody beside SR... Feb 7 2008, 10:26 PM
Mr. Unpronounceable QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 7 2008, 11:26 PM) It... Feb 7 2008, 10:45 PM
Cain QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 7 2008, 02... Feb 8 2008, 12:37 AM
Malicant QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 8 2008, 01:37 AM) His p... Feb 8 2008, 01:16 AM
Cain QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 7 2008, 05:16 PM) I... Feb 8 2008, 01:47 AM
Naysayer QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 7 2008, 09:47 PM) ... Feb 8 2008, 02:00 AM
Malicant QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 8 2008, 02:47 AM) ... Feb 8 2008, 02:25 AM
BishopMcQ QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 7 2008, 05:47 PM) I act... Feb 8 2008, 06:09 AM
bibliophile20 QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Feb 8 2008, 01:09 AM) ... Feb 8 2008, 07:57 PM
Sponge QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Feb 6 2008, 12... Feb 7 2008, 10:57 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Sponge @ Feb 8 2008, 09:57 AM) The... Feb 8 2008, 01:29 AM
Sponge QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 7 2008, 08:29 PM) As... Feb 8 2008, 03:31 AM
Fortune QUOTE (Sponge @ Feb 8 2008, 02:31 PM) The... Feb 8 2008, 03:37 AM
Naysayer The descriptive text for Synaptic Boosters only st... Feb 7 2008, 11:09 PM
Grinder And you just wanted to express that you don't ... Feb 8 2008, 12:39 AM
Mr. Unpronounceable QUOTE Decker is a really old term nobody beside SR... Feb 8 2008, 12:47 AM
krakjen The term "Matrix Specialist" is nice, bu... Feb 8 2008, 02:53 AM
Glyph Ironically, reaction enhancers are specifically al... Feb 8 2008, 04:25 AM
Fortune The only thing specifically disallowed for use wit... Feb 8 2008, 04:34 AM
Ryu QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 8 2008, 05:34 AM) Th... Feb 8 2008, 09:23 PM
Glyph QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 7 2008, 08:34 PM) Th... Feb 9 2008, 04:42 AM
nathanross Cain, as much as you seem to dislike [Insert Curre... Feb 8 2008, 06:44 AM
Ravor Bah! As far as I'm concerned there will al... Feb 8 2008, 06:48 AM
eidolon Preemptive strike! Bwah!
Seriously, knoc... Feb 8 2008, 04:21 PM
Malicant Me no like burned cookie. Feb 8 2008, 04:50 PM
Cain QUOTE Beyond the exact quotes, I'd say that yo... Feb 8 2008, 08:50 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 9 2008, 07:50 AM) But, ... Feb 8 2008, 09:25 PM
Malicant I don't really care what people like or dislik... Feb 8 2008, 09:28 PM
Cain I agree with Malicant. I like to argue, and while... Feb 9 2008, 01:37 AM
Fortune QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 9 2008, 12:37 PM) So, s... Feb 9 2008, 01:53 AM
Malicant QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 9 2008, 02:37 AM) So, s... Feb 9 2008, 02:40 AM
nathanross Wait, what about the cookies? Where can I get them... Feb 9 2008, 02:02 AM
Cain I'm not saying that SR4 doesn't have its g... Feb 9 2008, 03:00 AM
Whipstitch See, I don't think there's really a proble... Feb 9 2008, 03:09 AM
Cain The problems with the core mechanic includes the f... Feb 9 2008, 03:40 AM
nathanross QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 8 2008, 10:00 PM) I... Feb 9 2008, 05:55 AM
Cain QUOTE And BTW, while I really dont care for the Va... Feb 9 2008, 06:06 AM
Blade SR4 system is much younger than SR1-3 system, so i... Feb 9 2008, 11:17 AM![]() ![]() |
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