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post Feb 13 2008, 07:39 PM
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The cyborg rules in arsenal state that a cyborg uses Response for Reaction and the appropriate Vehicle skill + Handling when an Agility attribute is required.

Say the character is specialized in the appropriate type of Vehicle skill pertaining to his drone type. Would his +2 specialization bonus apply to his Agility score? Since the character is using a Vehicle skill as his Agility, would the cyborg recieve a +2 bonus to Agility for having a Control Rig? Lastly, would his Agility also be raised by +2 since he is in hot-sim?

For example, Bob the Cyborg has a Pilot Anthroform skill of five and is specialized in Bipedal. He is plugged into a bipedal anthroform drone with a handling of +1. Would his Agility be 12? That being 5 for skill, 2 for specialization, 2 for Control Rig, 2 for hot sim and 1 for handling?

I note that the Arsenal rules and the FAQ lists a table for common rigger actions. One of the checks it lists is for Infiltration, being comprised of Response + Infiltration. I understand that while rigging you use the drone's attributes in place of your own. I surmise that at the time this table was created, they choose to link it to Response because drone's had no Agility attribute. However, since a cyborg has an Agility attribute would it be better to link Infiltration to Agility?

The cyborg rules also state that you can use a firearms skill in the place of Gunnery. If, for example, you use your Pistols skill instead of Gunnery, is it still linked to Sensor since you are rigging? or will it link to the drone's Agility instead?

Or when else might you use the drone's Agility for a test? Would Gymnastics or Palming be linked to the drone's Agility or would it be linked to Response similar to Infiltration? And any time that you use the drone's Agility, which is derived from the controller's Vehicle skill, do you recieved the Control Rig and Handling bonuses?

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- Imperialparadox   Cyborg questions   Feb 13 2008, 07:39 PM
- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Imperialparadox @ Feb 13 2008, 02...   Feb 13 2008, 07:44 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Hmmm, pilot skill 7 (not sure if there are any ski...   Feb 13 2008, 08:08 PM
|- - Synner   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Feb 13 2008, 08:0...   Feb 13 2008, 08:13 PM
|- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 13 2008, 03:13 PM) I ...   Feb 13 2008, 08:17 PM
- - krakjen   On this subject, I have a question. What does Otom...   Feb 13 2008, 08:50 PM
|- - Synner   QUOTE (krakjen @ Feb 13 2008, 08:50 PM) T...   Feb 13 2008, 09:03 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Look up the Mimic upgrade. Page 139. Sounds prett...   Feb 13 2008, 09:00 PM
- - krakjen   Good, thanks for the answers... Between that and t...   Feb 13 2008, 09:14 PM
- - Malicant   Are you guys sure cyborg agility is vehicle skill ...   Feb 14 2008, 12:24 AM
|- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 13 2008, 07:24 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 12:28 AM
- - Malicant   The hard to kill is not linked to agility. And sin...   Feb 14 2008, 12:40 AM
- - Jaid   most of those dice pool bonuses would apply for a ...   Feb 14 2008, 03:48 AM
|- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 13 2008, 10:48 PM) and ...   Feb 14 2008, 07:02 PM
- - Imperialparadox   Using the jarhead's Pilot skill for Agility ma...   Feb 14 2008, 08:29 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Imperialparadox @ Feb 14 2008, 09...   Feb 14 2008, 09:14 PM
||- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 14 2008, 04:14 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 09:40 PM
||- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 14 2008, 04:40 PM...   Feb 14 2008, 09:47 PM
||- - Malicant   QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 14 2008, 10:40 PM...   Feb 14 2008, 10:05 PM
||- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 14 2008, 05:05 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 10:08 PM
||- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 14 2008, 05:05 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 10:35 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Imperialparadox @ Feb 15 2008, 07...   Feb 14 2008, 09:33 PM
- - Imperialparadox   *Ack double-post*   Feb 14 2008, 08:29 PM
- - ICPick   Stupid question, but if you get your hands on one,...   Feb 14 2008, 08:32 PM
|- - the_dunner   QUOTE (ICPick @ Feb 14 2008, 03:32 PM) St...   Feb 14 2008, 09:42 PM
- - Feshy   QUOTE They are most commonly used as high profile ...   Feb 14 2008, 09:32 PM
- - Malicant   I don't really think they suck. Sensor ratings...   Feb 14 2008, 10:12 PM
- - Malicant   Ouhkay. That is an incredible powerboost, I say. S...   Feb 14 2008, 10:42 PM
|- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 14 2008, 05:42 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 10:52 PM
- - Jaid   i don't think you guys caught that riggers can...   Feb 14 2008, 10:45 PM
- - Malicant   No one questioned Riggers can do the same stuff. B...   Feb 14 2008, 10:55 PM
- - Jaid   so basically, we're back to the CCU providing ...   Feb 14 2008, 11:10 PM
- - Synner   250k is more than reasonable for a first generatio...   Feb 14 2008, 11:28 PM
- - Lyonheart   None of the Cyborg body's has a pilot rating, ...   Feb 15 2008, 12:32 AM
|- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Lyonheart @ Feb 14 2008, 07:32 PM)...   Feb 15 2008, 12:36 AM
|- - Lyonheart   QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 14 2008, 07:36 PM...   Feb 15 2008, 01:24 AM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Lyonheart @ Feb 15 2008, 02:24 AM)...   Feb 15 2008, 02:09 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 14 2008, 09:09 PM) ...   Feb 15 2008, 02:15 AM
|- - Lyonheart   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 14 2008, 09:15 PM) i th...   Feb 15 2008, 03:09 AM
- - Jaid   this is in response to Synner's post. as fa...   Feb 15 2008, 01:05 AM
|- - Synner   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 15 2008, 01:05 AM) QUOT...   Feb 15 2008, 08:55 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 15 2008, 03:55 AM) Th...   Feb 15 2008, 10:58 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 15 2008, 11:58 PM) sure...   Feb 16 2008, 12:16 AM
- - Ryu   Not that I want to play a Jarhead, but being so sm...   Feb 15 2008, 01:32 AM
- - Jaid   who cares which one is the cyborg. just shoot them...   Feb 15 2008, 02:12 AM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 15 2008, 03:12 AM) who ...   Feb 15 2008, 02:46 AM
|- - Jaid   apparently i can't for the life of me quote t...   Feb 15 2008, 03:30 AM
- - GryMor   As far as I'm concerned, the main benefit of a...   Feb 15 2008, 02:57 AM
- - hobgoblin   didnt see this come up in the thread (by i may be ...   Feb 15 2008, 05:31 AM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, i wonder what the outcome would in a encounte...   Feb 15 2008, 08:57 AM
- - Synner   In SR4 cyberzombies are the ultimate anti-magic we...   Feb 15 2008, 09:01 AM
- - Lyonheart   As to my little sub-thread about cyborgs lacking a...   Feb 15 2008, 11:36 PM
- - hobgoblin   heh, this made me think of the gits:sac episode wh...   Feb 15 2008, 11:53 PM
- - Jaid   did you read my post, or just make one up yourself...   Feb 16 2008, 12:52 AM
- - Malicant   Proof or it did not happen. Show me how they do ...   Feb 16 2008, 01:16 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 15 2008, 08:16 PM) ...   Feb 16 2008, 01:33 AM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 16 2008, 02:33 AM) so f...   Feb 16 2008, 02:17 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 15 2008, 09:17 PM) ...   Feb 16 2008, 03:11 AM
- - Malicant   QUOTE he'd be alive. probably not happy before...   Feb 16 2008, 03:28 AM
- - Jaid   how is the fact that the CCU is not 'ware rele...   Feb 16 2008, 10:58 PM
- - hyzmarca   The big advantage of the brain-in-a-jar system is ...   Feb 16 2008, 11:31 PM
- - Malicant   You, sir need a vacation back on planet earth. I d...   Feb 16 2008, 11:43 PM
- - Jaid   a CCU is about 50 cm long by about 30 cm diameter ...   Feb 16 2008, 11:50 PM
|- - Malicant   QUOTE (Jaid @ Feb 17 2008, 12:50 AM) a CC...   Feb 17 2008, 12:37 AM
- - krakjen   And don't forget life-support for a brain is w...   Feb 16 2008, 11:51 PM
- - Jaid   cyborgs explicitly use children's brains. it...   Feb 17 2008, 01:49 AM
- - hobgoblin   from the moment a child is able to walk on its own...   Feb 17 2008, 03:50 AM
- - hyzmarca   The real point of the brain-in-a-jar process is no...   Feb 17 2008, 04:46 AM


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