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OK so here's the premise: You have no restrictions on nuyen, availability, time, or grade. What is the most bang you can get out of less than 1 point of essence for a mage. Let's not argue about whether or not a mage should or not.
I'm playing a possession tradition right now that has migrated towards looking more like a gun adept with spirits and weird tricks than a spell caster. That's what lead me to write up this wish list **.9875 Essence** Cyberware 1.4 --Delta Grade--> .7 .6 Skillwire (rating 3) .3 Cyber Eyes (rating 2) .25 Cyber Hand Right .25 Cyber Hand Left Bioware 1.15 --Delta Grade--> .575 --Cyber/Bio Discount--> .2875 .2 Trauma Damper .2 Platelet Factiry .15 Sleep regulator .6 Ceribral Enhancement (rating 3) [8] Cyber Eyes (rating 2) [1] Eyes Flare Comp [2] Thermographic [3] Enhancement (rating 3) [2] Vision mag [8] Cyber Hand -Right (Bulk Mod + 4) [3] Agility Mod (rating 3) [3] Body Mod (rating 3) [0] Auto-Injecter: Deep Weed Extra Dose Capacity (rating 6) *2x Stimulant (rating 6) (Less pain) *2x BetaMeth (+2 reaction, +1 intuition) *2x Pych (+1 logic, +1 willpower) [2] Nanohive (rating 6) Implant Medics Universal Nanidotes Universal Nanite Hunters Nano Bio-Monitor Neural Amplifier - Limbic Neural Amplifier - NeoCortical [8] Cyber Hand -Left (Bulk Mod + 4) [2] Radar Rating (rating 4) [0] Auto-Injecter: Deep Weed Extra Dose Capacity (rating 6) *2x Stimulant (rating 6) (Less pain) *2x BetaMeth (+2 reaction, +1 intuition) *2x Pych (+1 logic, +1 willpower) [6] Armor (rating 3) The Bioware seems fairly no brainer under this premise. While I'm not sure that I would give up a point of magic for cyber-eyes, I will totally make room for them them if I've opened that can of worms. So that leaves us with the skill wires and the cyber hands. Admittedly, I wrote this list with for a mage that spits as much lead as spells. I would get a lot of millage out of the having and occasionally redlining that hand. Like wise the skillwires and a possessing spirit put me in the 11+ range for mundane physical skill checks that no mage is ever going to spend karma on. Not to mention letting me rock all over non-stressful technical skills. So. anything seemingly pointless or odd? Anything obviously missing? Any better ideas than the skill wires and the the cyber hands for a gun bunny mage. What would would you replace them with for a more "traditional" mage? This post has been edited by Redjack: Feb 21 2008, 02:24 PM
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WeaverMount Best 1 essence worth of cyber for a mage Feb 20 2008, 08:30 AM
KCKitsune I'm thinking the following Delta grade stuff (... Feb 20 2008, 08:45 AM
WeaverMount Speaking completely from an optimization stance, I... Feb 20 2008, 09:28 AM
Cthulhudreams QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Feb 20 2008, 05:28 A... Feb 20 2008, 01:05 PM
Abbandon Delta Grade Fake wussiness 1.0 essense 0 nuyen.
... Feb 20 2008, 09:38 AM
Velocity219e QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 09:38 AM) ... Feb 20 2008, 10:35 AM

toturi QUOTE (Velocity219e @ Feb 20 2008, 06:35 ... Feb 20 2008, 11:04 AM

Ryu QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 20 2008, 12:04 PM) It... Feb 20 2008, 01:23 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 10:38 AM) ... Feb 20 2008, 12:43 PM
KCKitsune OK, Abbandon, before my power went off I had a pre... Feb 20 2008, 02:35 PM
paws2sky QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 04:38 AM) ... Feb 20 2008, 03:59 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 01:38 AM) ... Feb 20 2008, 04:06 PM
KCKitsune Except using any spells might set off the Security... Feb 20 2008, 09:40 AM
Critias Yeah. It's totally cheap and lame and weak-sa... Feb 20 2008, 12:56 PM
ArkonC No, i agree, it's like going to war with Iraq,... Feb 20 2008, 03:08 PM
Feshy QUOTE This means that if one spell slinger has vis... Feb 20 2008, 03:41 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Feshy @ Feb 21 2008, 02:41 AM) Of ... Feb 20 2008, 08:05 PM
Kyoto Kid ...OK for a physad (using chargen limits)
Qualiti... Feb 20 2008, 03:50 PM
Sponge QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Feb 20 2008, 03:30 A... Feb 20 2008, 04:16 PM
WeaverMount Thanks for the ketch on the bulk mod, and the alte... Feb 20 2008, 05:32 PM
Abbandon QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 20 2008, 08:35 AM)... Feb 20 2008, 05:38 PM
Moon-Hawk QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 12:38 PM) ... Feb 20 2008, 06:14 PM
Fortune QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 21 2008, 04:38 AM) ... Feb 20 2008, 08:12 PM
paws2sky Okay, now that I've had a chance to look at th... Feb 20 2008, 05:38 PM
Kyoto Kid ...heck even an adept purist such as myself has se... Feb 20 2008, 06:34 PM
Adarael Most of the assumptions about what is "right... Feb 20 2008, 06:38 PM
Kyrn It could theoretically include an ass-hat accordin... Feb 20 2008, 06:58 PM
Adarael Sir, you are incisive in your deductions. I approv... Feb 20 2008, 07:01 PM
Rasumichin I'm surprised no one mentions genemods.
Okay, ... Feb 20 2008, 07:25 PM
ArkonC QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Feb 20 2008, 08:25 PM... Feb 20 2008, 07:29 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (ArkonC @ Feb 20 2008, 11:29 AM) I ... Feb 20 2008, 09:27 PM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 20 2008, 04:27 PM)... Feb 20 2008, 10:09 PM
Moon-Hawk Semi-canon: Under tweaking the rules there is an ... Feb 20 2008, 07:30 PM
Abbandon That is true.....I am an asshat.....but only in th... Feb 20 2008, 08:21 PM
Kyrn At least asshat's as much fun to type as it to... Feb 20 2008, 08:45 PM
Whipstitch Enhanced Articulation kinda got hit with the ol... Feb 20 2008, 09:34 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 20 2008, 01:34 PM... Feb 21 2008, 12:04 AM
Ryu Genetic Heritage is a nice option, allthough it wo... Feb 20 2008, 09:51 PM
Whipstitch If I dip to 2 points of magic loss it's usuall... Feb 20 2008, 10:07 PM
Whipstitch ...You guys aren't even reading posts anymore;... Feb 20 2008, 10:12 PM
Ryu What about a smuggling compartment for the less ef... Feb 20 2008, 10:16 PM
Teulisch from augmentation- a rating 4 radar sensor. fairly... Feb 21 2008, 12:59 AM
Kyoto Kid ...I am not sure it would work for spellcasting th... Feb 21 2008, 01:16 AM
ShadowDragon8685 As the old saw goes, "If you paid for it with... Feb 21 2008, 01:41 AM
Kyoto Kid ...we don't need to give mages any more advant... Feb 21 2008, 01:50 AM
DTFarstar Has to be an optic sight aug for it to work with c... Feb 21 2008, 01:51 AM
Kyoto Kid ...thanks, I knew I was right on that.
Otherwise... Feb 21 2008, 01:55 AM
Feshy QUOTE Cyberlimb optimization modifications are onl... Feb 21 2008, 02:31 AM
Eyeless Blond It's not a matter of detecting the target; oth... Feb 21 2008, 03:32 AM
Feshy QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Feb 20 2008, 10:32... Feb 21 2008, 03:59 AM
Teulisch thats probably why ultrasound isn't an eye mod... Feb 21 2008, 03:59 AM
DTFarstar I just assume that the SR creators knew about as m... Feb 21 2008, 04:07 AM
Feshy QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Feb 20 2008, 11:07 PM)... Feb 21 2008, 05:27 AM
KCKitsune Uh, quick question everyone... WHERE does it say t... Feb 21 2008, 04:13 AM
Glyph QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 20 2008, 08:13 PM)... Feb 21 2008, 05:13 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 21 2008, 12:13 AM) It... Feb 21 2008, 05:43 AM
Glyph QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 20 2008, 09:43 PM)... Feb 21 2008, 06:47 AM
Kanada Ten I always liked the old "opening yourself up t... Feb 21 2008, 04:18 AM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Feshy)I wonder if perhaps it's just the... Feb 21 2008, 04:40 AM
ShadowDragon8685 What is 'vision', anyway?
You don't ... Feb 21 2008, 05:16 AM
ShadowDragon8685 So, if he's using ultrasound goggles, it's... Feb 21 2008, 05:55 AM
Fortune Radar Sensors are not an eye enhancement. It is a ... Feb 21 2008, 05:58 AM
ShadowDragon8685 I fail to see how that matters, Fortune. It still ... Feb 21 2008, 06:07 AM
Critias It specifies "vision" in the rules for s... Feb 21 2008, 06:10 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 01:10 AM) I... Feb 21 2008, 06:49 AM
Critias QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 21 2008, 01:49 AM)... Feb 21 2008, 07:16 AM
JBlades I don't see why you'd take skillwires with... Feb 21 2008, 06:18 AM
Eyeless Blond Er, you read the next part, right? "similar i... Feb 21 2008, 07:06 AM
Ravor It's been mentioned before, but never ever for... Feb 21 2008, 07:18 AM
Kyoto Kid ...letsee, I have three people, who's knowledg... Feb 21 2008, 07:36 AM
KCKitsune @ Eyeless Blond & Critias, did both of you ign... Feb 21 2008, 07:42 AM
Critias QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 21 2008, 02:42 AM)... Feb 21 2008, 08:08 AM
Kyoto Kid ...make that four people I respect who agree.
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KCKitsune OK, how about we send an offical question to the g... Feb 21 2008, 07:57 AM
Kyoto Kid ...fair enough. Feb 21 2008, 08:06 AM
KCKitsune OK Everybody, I'm sending the following messag... Feb 21 2008, 08:36 AM
Critias Okay. While you're at it, ask him if they can... Feb 21 2008, 08:58 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 03:58 AM) O... Feb 21 2008, 09:14 AM
Cthulhudreams Well an occular drone is something with sensors th... Feb 21 2008, 09:29 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Feb 21 2008, 04:29... Feb 21 2008, 09:40 AM
Critias Right -- it creates its own image and shares it wi... Feb 21 2008, 10:16 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 05:16 AM) R... Feb 21 2008, 10:34 AM
Critias I know you sent the letter. Or, well, I fully bel... Feb 21 2008, 10:51 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 05:51 AM) I... Feb 21 2008, 11:06 AM
Critias So, okay. Still no comment on the fact that Radar... Feb 21 2008, 11:15 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 06:15 AM) S... Feb 21 2008, 11:35 AM
Fortune QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 21 2008, 10:35 PM)... Feb 21 2008, 02:20 PM
Critias QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 21 2008, 09:20 AM) T... Feb 21 2008, 03:03 PM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 21 2008, 09:20 AM) T... Feb 21 2008, 04:57 PM
Fuchs In my campaign, radar-blocking paint or materials ... Feb 21 2008, 11:43 AM
cx2 Best reason to say officially that it doesn't ... Feb 21 2008, 12:11 PM
Synner Both radar sense and ultrasound produce computer g... Feb 21 2008, 12:37 PM
Moon-Hawk Thanks for finally stomping on this, Synner. I... Feb 21 2008, 04:34 PM
Kanada Ten Sometimes I ground my daughter just because it rem... Feb 21 2008, 04:39 PM
Feshy QUOTE No. The book quite clearly states that it is... Feb 21 2008, 04:42 PM
Kyoto Kid QUOTE (Feshy)Again, there isn't a difference b... Feb 21 2008, 04:58 PM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 21 2008, 11:58 AM)... Feb 21 2008, 05:12 PM
Feshy QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 21 2008, 11:58 AM)... Feb 21 2008, 05:31 PM
KCKitsune Question: If a person has reflex augmentation (Wi... Feb 21 2008, 05:46 PM
DTFarstar Pretty sure Kyoto was talking to Feshy that time, ... Feb 21 2008, 05:48 PM![]() ![]() |
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