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WeaverMount
post Feb 20 2008, 08:30 AM
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OK so here's the premise: You have no restrictions on nuyen, availability, time, or grade. What is the most bang you can get out of less than 1 point of essence for a mage. Let's not argue about whether or not a mage should or not.
I'm playing a possession tradition right now that has migrated towards looking more like a gun adept with spirits and weird tricks than a spell caster. That's what lead me to write up this wish list


**.9875 Essence**
Cyberware 1.4 --Delta Grade--> .7
.6 Skillwire (rating 3)
.3 Cyber Eyes (rating 2)
.25 Cyber Hand Right
.25 Cyber Hand Left
Bioware 1.15 --Delta Grade--> .575 --Cyber/Bio Discount--> .2875
.2 Trauma Damper
.2 Platelet Factiry
.15 Sleep regulator
.6 Ceribral Enhancement (rating 3)

[8] Cyber Eyes (rating 2)
[1] Eyes Flare Comp
[2] Thermographic
[3] Enhancement (rating 3)
[2] Vision mag

[8] Cyber Hand -Right (Bulk Mod + 4)
[3] Agility Mod (rating 3)
[3] Body Mod (rating 3)
[0] Auto-Injecter: Deep Weed
Extra Dose Capacity (rating 6)
*2x Stimulant (rating 6) (Less pain)
*2x BetaMeth (+2 reaction, +1 intuition)
*2x Pych (+1 logic, +1 willpower)
[2] Nanohive (rating 6)
Implant Medics
Universal Nanidotes
Universal Nanite Hunters
Nano Bio-Monitor
Neural Amplifier - Limbic
Neural Amplifier - NeoCortical

[8] Cyber Hand -Left (Bulk Mod + 4)
[2] Radar Rating (rating 4)
[0] Auto-Injecter: Deep Weed
Extra Dose Capacity (rating 6)
*2x Stimulant (rating 6) (Less pain)
*2x BetaMeth (+2 reaction, +1 intuition)
*2x Pych (+1 logic, +1 willpower)
[6] Armor (rating 3)


The Bioware seems fairly no brainer under this premise. While I'm not sure that I would give up a point of magic for cyber-eyes, I will totally make room for them them if I've opened that can of worms. So that leaves us with the skill wires and the cyber hands. Admittedly, I wrote this list with for a mage that spits as much lead as spells. I would get a lot of millage out of the having and occasionally redlining that hand. Like wise the skillwires and a possessing spirit put me in the 11+ range for mundane physical skill checks that no mage is ever going to spend karma on. Not to mention letting me rock all over non-stressful technical skills.

So. anything seemingly pointless or odd? Anything obviously missing? Any better ideas than the skill wires and the the cyber hands for a gun bunny mage. What would would you replace them with for a more "traditional" mage?

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- WeaverMount   Best 1 essence worth of cyber for a mage   Feb 20 2008, 08:30 AM
- - KCKitsune   I'm thinking the following Delta grade stuff (...   Feb 20 2008, 08:45 AM
- - WeaverMount   Speaking completely from an optimization stance, I...   Feb 20 2008, 09:28 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Feb 20 2008, 05:28 A...   Feb 20 2008, 01:05 PM
- - Abbandon   Delta Grade Fake wussiness 1.0 essense 0 nuyen. ...   Feb 20 2008, 09:38 AM
|- - Velocity219e   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 09:38 AM) ...   Feb 20 2008, 10:35 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Velocity219e @ Feb 20 2008, 06:35 ...   Feb 20 2008, 11:04 AM
||- - Ryu   QUOTE (toturi @ Feb 20 2008, 12:04 PM) It...   Feb 20 2008, 01:23 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 10:38 AM) ...   Feb 20 2008, 12:43 PM
|- - KCKitsune   OK, Abbandon, before my power went off I had a pre...   Feb 20 2008, 02:35 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 04:38 AM) ...   Feb 20 2008, 03:59 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 01:38 AM) ...   Feb 20 2008, 04:06 PM
- - KCKitsune   Except using any spells might set off the Security...   Feb 20 2008, 09:40 AM
- - Critias   Yeah. It's totally cheap and lame and weak-sa...   Feb 20 2008, 12:56 PM
- - ArkonC   No, i agree, it's like going to war with Iraq,...   Feb 20 2008, 03:08 PM
- - Feshy   QUOTE This means that if one spell slinger has vis...   Feb 20 2008, 03:41 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Feshy @ Feb 21 2008, 02:41 AM) Of ...   Feb 20 2008, 08:05 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...OK for a physad (using chargen limits) Qualiti...   Feb 20 2008, 03:50 PM
- - Sponge   QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Feb 20 2008, 03:30 A...   Feb 20 2008, 04:16 PM
- - WeaverMount   Thanks for the ketch on the bulk mod, and the alte...   Feb 20 2008, 05:32 PM
- - Abbandon   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 20 2008, 08:35 AM)...   Feb 20 2008, 05:38 PM
|- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 20 2008, 12:38 PM) ...   Feb 20 2008, 06:14 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Feb 21 2008, 04:38 AM) ...   Feb 20 2008, 08:12 PM
- - paws2sky   Okay, now that I've had a chance to look at th...   Feb 20 2008, 05:38 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...heck even an adept purist such as myself has se...   Feb 20 2008, 06:34 PM
- - Adarael   Most of the assumptions about what is "right...   Feb 20 2008, 06:38 PM
- - Kyrn   It could theoretically include an ass-hat accordin...   Feb 20 2008, 06:58 PM
- - Adarael   Sir, you are incisive in your deductions. I approv...   Feb 20 2008, 07:01 PM
- - Rasumichin   I'm surprised no one mentions genemods. Okay, ...   Feb 20 2008, 07:25 PM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Feb 20 2008, 08:25 PM...   Feb 20 2008, 07:29 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (ArkonC @ Feb 20 2008, 11:29 AM) I ...   Feb 20 2008, 09:27 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 20 2008, 04:27 PM)...   Feb 20 2008, 10:09 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Semi-canon: Under tweaking the rules there is an ...   Feb 20 2008, 07:30 PM
- - Abbandon   That is true.....I am an asshat.....but only in th...   Feb 20 2008, 08:21 PM
- - Kyrn   At least asshat's as much fun to type as it to...   Feb 20 2008, 08:45 PM
- - Whipstitch   Enhanced Articulation kinda got hit with the ol...   Feb 20 2008, 09:34 PM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 20 2008, 01:34 PM...   Feb 21 2008, 12:04 AM
- - Ryu   Genetic Heritage is a nice option, allthough it wo...   Feb 20 2008, 09:51 PM
- - Whipstitch   If I dip to 2 points of magic loss it's usuall...   Feb 20 2008, 10:07 PM
- - Whipstitch   ...You guys aren't even reading posts anymore;...   Feb 20 2008, 10:12 PM
- - Ryu   What about a smuggling compartment for the less ef...   Feb 20 2008, 10:16 PM
- - Teulisch   from augmentation- a rating 4 radar sensor. fairly...   Feb 21 2008, 12:59 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...I am not sure it would work for spellcasting th...   Feb 21 2008, 01:16 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   As the old saw goes, "If you paid for it with...   Feb 21 2008, 01:41 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...we don't need to give mages any more advant...   Feb 21 2008, 01:50 AM
- - DTFarstar   Has to be an optic sight aug for it to work with c...   Feb 21 2008, 01:51 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...thanks, I knew I was right on that. Otherwise...   Feb 21 2008, 01:55 AM
- - Feshy   QUOTE Cyberlimb optimization modifications are onl...   Feb 21 2008, 02:31 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   It's not a matter of detecting the target; oth...   Feb 21 2008, 03:32 AM
|- - Feshy   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Feb 20 2008, 10:32...   Feb 21 2008, 03:59 AM
- - Teulisch   thats probably why ultrasound isn't an eye mod...   Feb 21 2008, 03:59 AM
- - DTFarstar   I just assume that the SR creators knew about as m...   Feb 21 2008, 04:07 AM
|- - Feshy   QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Feb 20 2008, 11:07 PM)...   Feb 21 2008, 05:27 AM
- - KCKitsune   Uh, quick question everyone... WHERE does it say t...   Feb 21 2008, 04:13 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 20 2008, 08:13 PM)...   Feb 21 2008, 05:13 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Glyph @ Feb 21 2008, 12:13 AM) It...   Feb 21 2008, 05:43 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 20 2008, 09:43 PM)...   Feb 21 2008, 06:47 AM
- - Kanada Ten   I always liked the old "opening yourself up t...   Feb 21 2008, 04:18 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Feshy)I wonder if perhaps it's just the...   Feb 21 2008, 04:40 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   What is 'vision', anyway? You don't ...   Feb 21 2008, 05:16 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   So, if he's using ultrasound goggles, it's...   Feb 21 2008, 05:55 AM
- - Fortune   Radar Sensors are not an eye enhancement. It is a ...   Feb 21 2008, 05:58 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   I fail to see how that matters, Fortune. It still ...   Feb 21 2008, 06:07 AM
- - Critias   It specifies "vision" in the rules for s...   Feb 21 2008, 06:10 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 01:10 AM) I...   Feb 21 2008, 06:49 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 21 2008, 01:49 AM)...   Feb 21 2008, 07:16 AM
- - JBlades   I don't see why you'd take skillwires with...   Feb 21 2008, 06:18 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Er, you read the next part, right? "similar i...   Feb 21 2008, 07:06 AM
- - Ravor   It's been mentioned before, but never ever for...   Feb 21 2008, 07:18 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...letsee, I have three people, who's knowledg...   Feb 21 2008, 07:36 AM
- - KCKitsune   @ Eyeless Blond & Critias, did both of you ign...   Feb 21 2008, 07:42 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 21 2008, 02:42 AM)...   Feb 21 2008, 08:08 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...make that four people I respect who agree. ......   Feb 21 2008, 07:49 AM
- - KCKitsune   OK, how about we send an offical question to the g...   Feb 21 2008, 07:57 AM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...fair enough.   Feb 21 2008, 08:06 AM
- - KCKitsune   OK Everybody, I'm sending the following messag...   Feb 21 2008, 08:36 AM
- - Critias   Okay. While you're at it, ask him if they can...   Feb 21 2008, 08:58 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 03:58 AM) O...   Feb 21 2008, 09:14 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Well an occular drone is something with sensors th...   Feb 21 2008, 09:29 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Feb 21 2008, 04:29...   Feb 21 2008, 09:40 AM
- - Critias   Right -- it creates its own image and shares it wi...   Feb 21 2008, 10:16 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 05:16 AM) R...   Feb 21 2008, 10:34 AM
- - Critias   I know you sent the letter. Or, well, I fully bel...   Feb 21 2008, 10:51 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 05:51 AM) I...   Feb 21 2008, 11:06 AM
- - Critias   So, okay. Still no comment on the fact that Radar...   Feb 21 2008, 11:15 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Critias @ Feb 21 2008, 06:15 AM) S...   Feb 21 2008, 11:35 AM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Feb 21 2008, 10:35 PM)...   Feb 21 2008, 02:20 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 21 2008, 09:20 AM) T...   Feb 21 2008, 03:03 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 21 2008, 09:20 AM) T...   Feb 21 2008, 04:57 PM
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- - Moon-Hawk   Thanks for finally stomping on this, Synner. I...   Feb 21 2008, 04:34 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Sometimes I ground my daughter just because it rem...   Feb 21 2008, 04:39 PM
- - Feshy   QUOTE No. The book quite clearly states that it is...   Feb 21 2008, 04:42 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Feshy)Again, there isn't a difference b...   Feb 21 2008, 04:58 PM
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