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ArkonC
post Feb 27 2008, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 27 2008, 12:40 AM) *
Get a maxed-out Quickness, and one maxed out combat skill. You're not only at the top of your game in one area, you'll be so close to the top of your game in so many others, it's pointless. If you're an adept, that can be pushed even further,


The challenge was issued in another thread...
So make this character who is at the top of his game...
Make the runner that has so few options for improvement is is pointless...

And just so you know:
QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 27 2008, 04:20 AM) *
I accept. Start another thread, and I'll prove it. As for Mr. Lucky, Pete seems to not realize that Mr. Lucky isn't the most broken character that can be made. Heck, he doesn't even count in the top 10. I use Mr. Lucky as an example of brokenness to be nice.


I'm curious to see what people (including myself) think of it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
BTW: I actually loved Mr. Lucky, the only shadowrunner who can kill people by making things harder for himself...
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- ArkonC   The Cain challenge...   Feb 27 2008, 03:35 AM
- - Cain   The short answer is: Create a character with a 9 ...   Feb 27 2008, 03:50 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 26 2008, 10:50 PM) The ...   Feb 27 2008, 03:57 AM
- - ArkonC   Well, yes, he can shoot a rat at half a mile with ...   Feb 27 2008, 03:56 AM
- - BlueMax   If the stated goal is to be a Marksman, the charac...   Feb 27 2008, 04:23 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 26 2008, 11:23 PM) I...   Feb 27 2008, 04:30 AM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 27 2008, 05:23 AM) I...   Feb 27 2008, 04:30 AM
- - Whipstitch   Well, the thing is, Agility is linked to more skil...   Feb 27 2008, 04:31 AM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 27 2008, 05:31 AM...   Feb 27 2008, 04:34 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (ArkonC @ Feb 26 2008, 08:34 PM) I ...   Feb 27 2008, 04:44 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 26 2008, 11:31 PM...   Feb 27 2008, 04:41 AM
- - BlueMax   Cain, Engage the challenge and make a full char...   Feb 27 2008, 04:47 AM
|- - Cardul   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 27 2008, 12:47 AM) C...   Feb 27 2008, 07:36 AM
- - ArkonC   I'd like to start this one with "there...   Feb 27 2008, 04:47 AM
- - Glyph   Being complete at one aspect, to the point where f...   Feb 27 2008, 05:20 AM
- - toturi   We need Cain to specify what he means by one area....   Feb 27 2008, 08:52 AM
- - samuelbeckett   What Cain is proposing is not possible under RAW 4...   Feb 27 2008, 10:05 AM
- - It trolls!   You forgot that he's also gonna need some cont...   Feb 27 2008, 10:29 AM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (It trolls! @ Feb 27 2008, 10:2...   Feb 27 2008, 10:37 AM
- - It trolls!   Well you could try with a maxing out the negative ...   Feb 27 2008, 10:45 AM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (It trolls! @ Feb 27 2008, 10:4...   Feb 27 2008, 11:25 AM
- - Cardul   And, the FAQ says you should not break up skill gr...   Feb 27 2008, 11:11 AM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Cardul @ Feb 27 2008, 11:11 AM) An...   Feb 27 2008, 11:20 AM
- - Ryu   I think that going without aptitude and exceptiona...   Feb 27 2008, 11:22 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Ryu @ Feb 27 2008, 12:22 PM) The s...   Feb 27 2008, 11:31 AM
||- - Cardul   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Feb 27 2008, 07:31 AM) Ah,...   Feb 27 2008, 11:46 AM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Cardul @ Feb 27 2008, 12:46 PM) I ...   Feb 27 2008, 12:04 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Ryu @ Feb 27 2008, 11:22 AM) I thi...   Feb 27 2008, 11:37 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (samuelbeckett @ Feb 27 2008, 12:37...   Feb 27 2008, 12:50 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Ryu @ Feb 27 2008, 12:50 PM) As fo...   Feb 27 2008, 01:03 PM
- - Blade   I don't see why being able to be the best in o...   Feb 27 2008, 12:00 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Blade @ Feb 27 2008, 12:00 PM) I d...   Feb 27 2008, 12:11 PM
|- - Cardul   QUOTE (samuelbeckett @ Feb 27 2008, 07:11...   Feb 27 2008, 12:35 PM
- - Blade   I'm curious to see Cain's character too, e...   Feb 27 2008, 12:56 PM
- - Fuchs   Exactly. If no matter what dice pool and gear he h...   Feb 27 2008, 12:56 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Feb 27 2008, 12:56 PM) Exa...   Feb 27 2008, 01:07 PM
- - Fuchs   My current group of runners does not get paid - th...   Feb 27 2008, 01:11 PM
- - Cain   One of my problems with SR4 chargen is how long it...   Feb 27 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 27 2008, 03:00 PM) One ...   Feb 27 2008, 03:25 PM
|- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 27 2008, 10:00 AM) Skil...   Feb 27 2008, 03:35 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 27 2008, 07:35 AM...   Feb 27 2008, 03:43 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 27 2008, 11:35 AM...   Feb 27 2008, 03:57 PM
- - Ryu   I was not trying to turn this into a discussion of...   Feb 27 2008, 03:27 PM
- - It trolls!   With Pilot skills you could argue that the char...   Feb 27 2008, 03:43 PM
- - Blade   I can't check the numbers here but I trust you...   Feb 27 2008, 04:00 PM
|- - ICPick   QUOTE (Blade @ Feb 27 2008, 11:00 AM) As ...   Feb 27 2008, 06:08 PM
- - ArkonC   Actually, you posted a Mr. Lucky Mage a while back...   Feb 27 2008, 04:32 PM
- - BlueMax   Mr. Lucky Huh? When I first got 4th Ed I made thi...   Feb 27 2008, 05:27 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Also, a character *requiring* skillsofts right out...   Feb 27 2008, 05:54 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   I generally avoid Mr. Lucky debates, but this one ...   Feb 27 2008, 05:55 PM
- - the_dunner   Also, keep in mind that it's a bit ironic for ...   Feb 27 2008, 06:02 PM
- - Teulisch   lets see... start with an elf, get em an agility c...   Feb 27 2008, 06:21 PM
- - Daier Mune   don't forget to Optimize your cyberarm(s) for ...   Feb 27 2008, 06:33 PM
- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 27 2008, 06:54 PM)...   Feb 27 2008, 06:38 PM
- - knasser   Shadowrun is at its heart, a realistic game. And t...   Feb 27 2008, 07:23 PM
- - Cain   We're getting off the track of the original ch...   Feb 27 2008, 08:16 PM
- - ArkonC   Mr. Lucky isn't on top of his game, IMHO, sinc...   Feb 27 2008, 08:51 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   So how would you classify "chosen field?...   Feb 27 2008, 10:06 PM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 27 2008, 11:06 PM)...   Feb 27 2008, 10:26 PM
- - Fortune   I just have to say that specializing Gymnastics in...   Feb 27 2008, 10:18 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   So where does that leave "Mr. Lucky"?   Feb 27 2008, 10:29 PM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 27 2008, 11:29 PM)...   Feb 27 2008, 10:36 PM
- - Naysayer   I have to say, after all the reoccuring hullabaloo...   Feb 27 2008, 10:48 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Also, and I keep meaning to post this... What take...   Feb 27 2008, 11:04 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (knasser)Shadowrun is at its heart, a realis...   Feb 27 2008, 11:29 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 27 2008, 11:29 PM) that ...   Feb 28 2008, 12:26 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 27 2008, 06:29 PM) that ...   Feb 28 2008, 12:32 AM
- - ArkonC   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 28 2008, 12:29 AM) that ...   Feb 28 2008, 12:34 AM
- - mfb   forgive my hyperbole, but d20 gets most of that ri...   Feb 28 2008, 12:38 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE So how would you classify "chosen field...   Feb 28 2008, 03:38 AM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 28 2008, 04:38 AM) But ...   Feb 28 2008, 04:14 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (ArkonC @ Feb 27 2008, 08:14 PM) As...   Feb 28 2008, 04:40 AM
- - ArkonC   Well, that ends that challenge, I shall not make a...   Feb 28 2008, 04:44 AM
- - mfb   your challenge is impossible to meet because it...   Feb 28 2008, 04:46 AM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 28 2008, 05:46 AM) your ...   Feb 28 2008, 04:57 AM
- - mfb   i have issues with you arbitrarily deciding it...   Feb 28 2008, 05:08 AM
- - ArkonC   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 28 2008, 06:08 AM) i hav...   Feb 28 2008, 05:23 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE He thinks Mr. Lucky is on top of combat, I d...   Feb 28 2008, 06:33 AM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 28 2008, 07:33 AM) Pist...   Feb 28 2008, 06:43 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (ArkonC)He thinks Mr. Lucky is on top of com...   Feb 28 2008, 06:44 AM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 28 2008, 07:44 AM) he do...   Feb 28 2008, 06:57 AM
- - FrankTrollman   But Cain's character only has 2 Initiative Pas...   Feb 28 2008, 07:03 AM
- - Cain   Like I said, Mr. Lucky took on a full team of name...   Feb 28 2008, 07:15 AM
|- - Synner   I've mentioned this more than a few times, so ...   Feb 28 2008, 11:36 AM
|- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 28 2008, 06:36 AM) I...   Feb 28 2008, 12:10 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 28 2008, 08:10 PM...   Feb 28 2008, 12:44 PM
- - Whipstitch   I just prefer to start with a bunch of my mooks th...   Feb 28 2008, 07:19 AM
- - Glyph   The pornomancer was like the climbing build, kind ...   Feb 28 2008, 07:41 AM
- - Synner   Several people have had a problem with this before...   Feb 28 2008, 01:40 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 28 2008, 09:40 PM) Se...   Feb 28 2008, 01:52 PM
- - Synner   Another thread would be appropriate this one is to...   Feb 28 2008, 02:15 PM
- - toturi   Started a thread on the_dunner's home ground.   Feb 28 2008, 02:32 PM
- - eidolon   Thanks for keeping this so civil, guys. As far ...   Feb 28 2008, 03:17 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Would you like to do a Combat Walk-Through a...   Feb 28 2008, 03:27 PM
|- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 28 2008, 10:27 AM) .......   Feb 28 2008, 04:16 PM
- - the_dunner   The adventure in question is SRM02-13 Take Out Ser...   Feb 28 2008, 03:38 PM
- - Synner   By Combat Walk-Through I meant a rerun of the comb...   Feb 28 2008, 03:51 PM
- - Dashifen   Actually, regardless of whether we use Mr. Lucky o...   Feb 28 2008, 03:59 PM
- - Cain   One more, then I'm off to work. QUOTE You may ...   Feb 28 2008, 04:48 PM
- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Cain @ Feb 28 2008, 05:48 PM) Mr. ...   Feb 28 2008, 04:54 PM
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