 Police & Lethal Force, If he fires, does he shoot to kill? |
 Dec 3 2003, 03:24 PM
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This is a debate I'm having with my roomies after seeing X-Men 2... When a police officer fires a weapon (uses lethal force), is he supposed to shoot to maim or shoot to kill? IIRC, a police officer is only trained to use lethal force when someone's life is in immediate danger, and then he's supposed to shoot to kill (otherwise, why shoot at all?) Also, are there special rules on when he can draw his weapon?
So I open the debate up to the Dumpshockers, both because if I'm wrong and cops shoot to wound, that means that in my games LS and KE will do the same, and because everyone knows how smart a group you all are. |
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nezumi Police & Lethal Force Dec 3 2003, 03:24 PM
Tanka IIRC, LS and KE can not use lethal force. They ha... Dec 3 2003, 03:31 PM Austere Emancipator I'm with you on this Nezumi. If they shoot, th... Dec 3 2003, 03:37 PM Pthgar How is a warning shot better than a miss? Isn... Dec 3 2003, 04:03 PM Tanka There is, which is why security rarely fires warni... Dec 3 2003, 04:05 PM Austere Emancipator I knew I was being too ambiguous. What I meant wa... Dec 3 2003, 04:20 PM Connor In regards to LS an KE, you could also base an ass... Dec 3 2003, 04:42 PM BitBasher After asking some fellow employees... officers nev... Dec 3 2003, 04:44 PM nezumi Tanka, I don't see where you're coming up ... Dec 3 2003, 05:06 PM Crimsondude 2.0 Police don't draw their weapons unless there i... Dec 3 2003, 05:28 PM Req Damn straight. Everything I've ever heard say... Dec 3 2003, 05:48 PM Maxwell Silverhammer As both active duty Military police, and as a stat... Dec 3 2003, 06:37 PM Abstruse In Shadowrun, things work a bit differently though... Dec 3 2003, 07:05 PM Grey Police in America are trained to shoot to kill.
H... Dec 3 2003, 07:06 PM Req Please define that - "trained to shoot to mai... Dec 3 2003, 07:09 PM Kurukami Or, at the least, some measure of perceived threat... Dec 3 2003, 07:12 PM Siege Prison guards are also required to "shoot to ... Dec 3 2003, 07:33 PM Grey QUOTE (Req) Please define that - "trained to ... Dec 3 2003, 07:59 PM Chodav Some thoughts about law enforcement in this day an... Dec 3 2003, 08:01 PM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Kurukami) Or, at the least, some measure of... Dec 3 2003, 08:03 PM Chodav QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) I can understand. 10-15 ft... Dec 3 2003, 08:10 PM Grey QUOTE (Chodav) They shot him while he was beating ... Dec 3 2003, 08:15 PM Chodav QUOTE (Grey) The part were the killed him for it. ... Dec 3 2003, 08:25 PM CanvasBack For my nuyen, things get worse not better in the S... Dec 3 2003, 08:30 PM Chodav QUOTE (CanvasBack) Some cops like to make the dist... Dec 3 2003, 08:38 PM Siege QUOTE (Grey) QUOTE (Chodav @ Dec 3 2003, 12:1... Dec 3 2003, 08:44 PM Siege QUOTE (Chodav) QUOTE (Grey @ Dec 3 2003, 03:1... Dec 3 2003, 08:45 PM Grey Yes, and I know it would be damn hard, but I also ... Dec 3 2003, 08:47 PM Chodav Actually, that brings up a point where I disagree ... Dec 3 2003, 08:54 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Grey) Yes, and I know it would be damn hard... Dec 3 2003, 09:03 PM Siege 14-year old? Wow.
Anyway, let's hit these in... Dec 3 2003, 09:10 PM Req QUOTE (Chodav) On the second point, I wholehearted... Dec 3 2003, 09:17 PM nezumi QUOTE (CanvasBack) For my nuyen, things get worse ... Dec 3 2003, 09:30 PM Siege QUOTE (nezumi) QUOTE (CanvasBack @ Dec 3 2003... Dec 3 2003, 09:36 PM Req I've fired a .44 Mag revolver only once (well,... Dec 3 2003, 09:40 PM Shanshu Freeman QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) I'm with you on th... Dec 3 2003, 09:43 PM BumsofTacoma QUOTE (Req)
...and that's exactly why I don... Dec 3 2003, 09:44 PM BumsofTacoma QUOTE (Siege @ Dec 3 2003, 04:36 PM) [
A .... Dec 3 2003, 10:01 PM Req OK, I totally have to change my sig to reflect tha... Dec 3 2003, 11:24 PM BitBasher As I seid in a previous thread, Officers here can ... Dec 3 2003, 11:43 PM BaronJ IIRC, in the LoneStar book, it is stated that, und... Dec 4 2003, 12:24 AM HMHVV Hunter QUOTE (BitBasher) As I seid in a previous thread, ... Dec 4 2003, 12:34 AM Chodav Police departments may legally possess and issue f... Dec 4 2003, 12:43 AM Bulldrek I think Bit Basher and some of the others covered ... Dec 4 2003, 12:45 AM BumsofTacoma QUOTE (Req) OK, I totally have to change my sig to... Dec 4 2003, 01:24 AM Kagetenshi When in doubt, copy/paste
~J Dec 4 2003, 01:26 AM Siege California is fairly cutting-edge in terms of equi... Dec 4 2003, 02:16 AM Maxwell Silverhammer Just some more information for you all, AR-15... Dec 4 2003, 03:17 AM Tyros QUOTE (Siege) California is fairly cutting-edge in... Dec 4 2003, 03:31 AM Pavlov This thread has been really instructive, although ... Dec 4 2003, 04:08 AM Siege QUOTE (Tyros) QUOTE (Siege @ Dec 4 2003, 02:1... Dec 4 2003, 04:17 AM Diesel Okay, fresh from police academy, I think I can ans... Dec 4 2003, 06:34 AM Traks More of history. Some years ago, when USSR existed... Dec 4 2003, 10:24 AM Siege QUOTE (Traks) More of history. Some years ago, whe... Dec 4 2003, 02:21 PM Diesel Number 2 = Giant robots. Dec 4 2003, 03:09 PM Traks Not really. Latvia, which was within USSR and rega... Dec 4 2003, 03:56 PM Siege QUOTE (Traks) Not really. Latvia, which was within... Dec 4 2003, 04:33 PM Squire Colorado State Law with regard to use of lethal fo... Dec 4 2003, 04:57 PM Austere Emancipator That's good stuff. Hafta keep all this in mind... Dec 4 2003, 05:17 PM RangerJoe Talk about standard issue AR-15s in squad cars rem... Dec 4 2003, 05:36 PM StealthBanana lol Dec 4 2003, 06:43 PM Sahandrian QUOTE (Squire) Police will only try the stupid ... Dec 4 2003, 06:59 PM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Sahandrian) QUOTE (Squire @ Dec 4 2003... Dec 4 2003, 07:24 PM Siege QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist) QUOTE (Sahandrian @ ... Dec 4 2003, 07:38 PM BitBasher Yeah, that sniper actually shot the gun above the ... Dec 4 2003, 09:18 PM Chodav Squire is the man. Good post, sir! Dec 4 2003, 11:18 PM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Chodav @ Dec 3 2003, 02:10 PM) QUOTE (... Dec 5 2003, 12:42 AM Chodav LOL
Reporters by-and-large cater to the whims of ... Dec 5 2003, 12:45 AM Siege It's a fine line between activist, rabble-rous... Dec 5 2003, 02:22 AM Seville Okay, this is complete hearsay (I think I saw it o... Dec 5 2003, 04:02 AM Kagetenshi Admit it, you posted just so you could say that
... Dec 5 2003, 04:17 AM Diesel I would have, that was beautiful. Dec 5 2003, 04:33 AM Siege If the book "Lion of Judah" or somesuch ... Dec 5 2003, 05:46 AM Seville I don't have to admit to anything Dec 5 2003, 06:02 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Seville)Okay, this is complete hearsay (I t... Dec 5 2003, 12:05 PM StealthBanana Yeah- the head is the best target to shoot for if ... Dec 5 2003, 07:17 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (StealthBanana)If a guy is running away from... Dec 5 2003, 07:45 PM nezumi Actually, when I first posted the question I did d... Dec 5 2003, 08:21 PM HMHVV Hunter QUOTE (nezumi) Actually, when I first posted the q... Dec 5 2003, 08:23 PM Dog About two hours ago, I just finished a five hour c... Dec 5 2003, 09:27 PM Chodav Well, if anyone wants to know, the places to aim o... Dec 6 2003, 06:13 PM Kagetenshi Or the base of the skull.
~J Dec 6 2003, 08:18 PM
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