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WeaverMount
post Mar 5 2008, 12:33 AM
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I would like to come up with a list of things worth establishing when forming or joining a new game. On DS we get into a lot of arguments interpreting RAW. I hear people talking a lot about tables needing to establish not even a list of house rules, but an implementation of RAW. My intent is to gather enough data to list of everything that is worth stating to a new player about how your table works. What I would like your help fleshing out 3 lists:
1) Places where people could disagree about RAW, like how agents work
2) Common gentleman's agreements, like not using more interrupt actions than you have IPs per round
3) House rules common enough to ask about, ignoring Availability after char gen, or gymnastic dodge
While I'm sure people will get bent out of shape about what counts a RAW per usual, please take the actual arguing somewhere else. Remember if people disagree with you that makes the point contested EVEN IF THEY ARE WRONG. Synner said point blank you can't cast off of ultra-sound, but it's still worth it to tell people new to your table whether or not that will fly. I'll edit this post to keep the lists updated.

1 Contended RAW
How does edge refresh
Can unattended agents move to a new node
What response do agents use
Does cracking give you one or unlimited copies
How mobile are wards
Scope of Knowledge skills
Do wards protect a volume or a surface (especially in regards to direct spells)
The dice pools of "Average Joes" and "Typical Professionals"
What is a "set of wounds" for healing.
What can treat drain
Augmented Skill max
Brain Hacking
Targeting spells off implanted ultra sound or Radar
What counts as 'limbs' for the purposes of determining average attributes in the case of unbalanced cyberlimbs.

2 Gentleman's Agreements
No comlink haystack / 4 IP AR decking / Agent Smith'ing
Don't use your ally spirit as an infinite sustaining focus.
Don't be a script kitty
No using more interrupt actions than you have IPs per round
Don't spam great form spirits
Some kind of expectation about dice pool range

3 Common House Rules
Making the matrix rules functional some how
Basically everything about edge
Basically everything about contacts
2xCha in contact points
Assorted dodging variants
Variants on getting gear / ignoring availability rules
Indirect fire variants
How does common sense get applied to social rolls
First-Aid and natural recovery
Maintaining safe houses / Multiple Lifestyles
Buying hits
What do Knowledge skills let you do (i.e. is Chemistry rolled in labs? does a demolitionist need Engineering(structural)?
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- WeaverMount   Contended RAW   Mar 5 2008, 12:33 AM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   I didn't realize some of these could be debate...   Mar 5 2008, 01:34 AM
|- - WeaverMount   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Mar 4 2008, 09...   Mar 5 2008, 07:42 AM
|- - WeaverMount   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Mar 4 2008, 09...   Mar 5 2008, 07:42 AM
- - mfb   what counts as 'limbs' for the purposes of...   Mar 5 2008, 01:53 AM
- - Jaid   gentlemen's agreement: don't use your all...   Mar 5 2008, 03:33 AM
|- - nathanross   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 4 2008, 11:33 PM) gentl...   Mar 5 2008, 06:17 AM
|- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 4 2008, 10:33 PM) gentl...   Mar 5 2008, 01:17 PM
- - KCKitsune   Radar and Ultrasound can NOT be used for targeting...   Mar 5 2008, 04:13 AM
- - WearzManySkins   Can First Aide be used to Heal Drain tracks? If y...   Mar 5 2008, 04:16 AM
|- - nathanross   QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Mar 5 2008, 12:16...   Mar 5 2008, 06:16 AM
|- - Shrike30   QUOTE (nathanross @ Mar 4 2008, 10:16 PM)...   Mar 5 2008, 07:36 AM
|- - nathanross   QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Mar 5 2008, 03:36 AM) ...   Mar 5 2008, 08:01 AM
- - Abbandon   I disagree that these are even close to being 50/5...   Mar 5 2008, 07:59 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Why would they get pissed off an kill you? I mean,...   Mar 5 2008, 08:03 AM
- - Abbandon   Err nevermind. I was thinking of spell binding whi...   Mar 5 2008, 08:12 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   If your doing that trick, I suspect you'd be l...   Mar 5 2008, 08:22 AM
- - Abbandon   Dont you have to stay in LOS of a sustained spell....   Mar 5 2008, 08:40 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   I don't think so? I could be completely wrong,...   Mar 5 2008, 08:46 AM
- - Abbandon   Oh cool QUOTE ( FAQ)Do you need to maintain line o...   Mar 5 2008, 08:57 AM
- - GryMor   Wards at least, can't be freestanding, so to g...   Mar 5 2008, 09:21 AM
- - Blade   QUOTE Don't be a script kitty I think it...   Mar 5 2008, 10:42 AM
- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Feb 10 2008, 02:33...   Mar 5 2008, 10:53 AM
- - ElFenrir   As for the Gentleman's Argument bit about dice...   Mar 5 2008, 12:23 PM
- - Abbandon   That makes no sense. Your ally has to be connecte...   Mar 5 2008, 02:37 PM
- - Prime Mover   Knowledge skills: I base thresholds on obscurity....   Mar 5 2008, 04:19 PM
- - Prime Mover   Gotta go with Abb on Ally spirit thought. Why wou...   Mar 5 2008, 04:25 PM
|- - Spike   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Mar 5 2008, 08:25 AM...   Mar 5 2008, 04:43 PM
- - crizh   What I don't really understand about the Ally ...   Mar 5 2008, 04:43 PM
- - Prime Mover   Standard spirit would use a service yes. But that...   Mar 5 2008, 04:49 PM
- - Whipstitch   A convenience issue that could very well get you k...   Mar 5 2008, 04:55 PM
- - crizh   Nah. It's measured in seconds per service use...   Mar 5 2008, 04:56 PM
- - Prime Mover   One service is used in spirits force x services ow...   Mar 5 2008, 05:06 PM
|- - Slymoon   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Mar 5 2008, 11:06 AM...   Mar 5 2008, 05:29 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Mar 5 2008, 05:06 PM...   Mar 5 2008, 06:39 PM
- - BlackHat   Lol, didn't see page two.   Mar 5 2008, 05:54 PM
- - Abbandon   -You dump all that karma into ally's to get ex...   Mar 5 2008, 06:27 PM
- - Prime Mover   So not as vulnerable as foci or quickening.....but...   Mar 5 2008, 06:48 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Mar 5 2008, 06:48 PM...   Mar 5 2008, 07:10 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Mar 5 2008, 06:48 PM...   Mar 5 2008, 07:13 PM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, you have to remember that you also have to d...   Mar 5 2008, 07:31 PM
- - Whipstitch   Bleh.   Mar 5 2008, 07:31 PM
- - Prime Mover   Just apples and oranges...if cast three spells bef...   Mar 5 2008, 08:11 PM
|- - samuelbeckett   QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Mar 5 2008, 08:11 PM...   Mar 5 2008, 08:32 PM
- - Prime Mover   No you were very clear the first time and I get it...   Mar 5 2008, 09:31 PM
- - crizh   I think Frank was pretty clear that it was an erro...   Mar 5 2008, 10:00 PM
- - BlackHat   I am sure there is a fair amount of bureaucracy to...   Mar 5 2008, 10:32 PM
- - crizh   I was under the impression that Catalyst was a pre...   Mar 5 2008, 10:47 PM
|- - WearzManySkins   QUOTE (crizh @ Mar 5 2008, 04:47 PM) I wa...   Mar 5 2008, 11:03 PM
- - crizh   That's what those big metal D20's are for....   Mar 5 2008, 11:13 PM
- - BlackHat   I've always found rock-paper-scissors to be a ...   Mar 5 2008, 11:14 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Also, I'm not certain Frank still works for th...   Mar 5 2008, 11:55 PM
- - Jaid   frank was a freelancer. most (probably all, actual...   Mar 6 2008, 12:16 AM
- - FrankTrollman   Jaid hit the points exactly and succinctly. I was...   Mar 7 2008, 09:09 PM
- - Abbandon   Frank why would an ally spirit be unable to do som...   Mar 8 2008, 05:13 AM
|- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Abbandon @ Mar 8 2008, 12:13 AM) F...   Mar 8 2008, 06:54 AM
- - crizh   It's only bound spirits that can do it. I thi...   Mar 8 2008, 06:19 AM


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