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Zhan Shi
post Mar 19 2008, 01:35 AM
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Picked up my copy at the local game store today, and read through most of it. Impressions: ok, so the cover was not to my liking. But so what? The text is first rate. Many did not like the inclusion of martial arts in SR3, but I think the current version is far superior. Interior art is excellent. Also I like the fact that Arsenal is a one stop shop for weapons, vehicles, drones, and armor, plus modifications for all four, as well as chemicals, drugs, gear, toxins, and environmental hazards; it's several sourcebooks rolled into one. An index would have been nice, but that's a very minor quibble about a fine product. Cheers to the devs/writers. Questions:

1. Has Dikote been removed from SR4, or have I just missed it (either in Arsenal or a previous book)?

2. The Jackpoint segment. Crater lake was a spike point through which some horrors broke loose (Worlds Without End). Were those civilians not acting under their own volition? Also, I seem to recall something about a Toxic dragon inhabiting the SOX; did the attacks have something to do with that?

3. Is the art on p. 43 just intended to be a great piece of art, or something else as well? After all, it does appear (I think) to depict a mummified troll wearing the regalia of a pharoh.

4. Was Firefight inspired by Equilibrium? BTW, love the new styles and maneuvers. Now Preston can come to life.

EDIT: forget about the index. Just noticed the page numbers next to item descriptions in the back. D'oh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarrassed.gif)
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- Zhan Shi   Arsenal review   Mar 19 2008, 01:35 AM
- - Earlydawn   I was blown away by the depth and detail of the de...   Mar 19 2008, 03:05 AM
- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Zhan Shi @ Mar 19 2008, 02:35 AM) ...   Mar 19 2008, 03:10 AM
- - Shrike30   I found that the mods section suffered from a lack...   Mar 19 2008, 06:21 AM
- - crizh   I'm no Chemistry Major but surely the differen...   Mar 19 2008, 09:49 AM
- - Blade   Well, it's a gun/toy book. More vehicles/drone...   Mar 19 2008, 10:17 AM
- - Prime Mover   Got PDF still waiting on hard copy to arrive, UPS ...   Mar 19 2008, 01:41 PM
- - Ophis   Great book, so much to be happy about. Good TWF ru...   Mar 19 2008, 10:19 PM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Ophis @ Mar 19 2008, 11:19 PM) I o...   Mar 19 2008, 10:26 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 19 2008, 11...   Mar 19 2008, 11:12 PM
- - nathanross   I really love the fact that Rigger/Cannon were com...   Mar 19 2008, 11:32 PM
- - hermit   So far, it's the weakest of the core books. So...   Mar 19 2008, 11:51 PM
- - Blue eyes   Only read some parts of the pdf sofar, but sofar s...   Mar 20 2008, 01:24 AM
- - It trolls!   While I liked the book, I would too consider it th...   Mar 20 2008, 01:54 AM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (It trolls! @ Mar 20 2008, 02:5...   Mar 20 2008, 04:05 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 20 2008, 12...   Mar 21 2008, 07:48 AM
- - Jaid   not seeing the need for such virulence here. much...   Mar 20 2008, 01:57 AM
- - b1ffov3rfl0w   A full-sized submarine seems like an interesting t...   Mar 20 2008, 02:16 AM
- - Shadow   Pick a frelling artist on Elfwood or Deviant art t...   Mar 20 2008, 03:09 AM
- - Adam   Wait ... did all the art suck absolutely equally? ...   Mar 20 2008, 03:14 AM
- - Grinder   Above mentioned Biometal79 is here: http://biometa...   Mar 20 2008, 08:30 AM
|- - evanger   QUOTE (Grinder @ Mar 20 2008, 02:30 AM) A...   Mar 21 2008, 04:13 PM
- - Synner   For the record Biometal79 did produce most of the ...   Mar 20 2008, 08:42 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 20 2008, 01:42 AM) Fo...   Mar 20 2008, 09:18 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Synner @ Mar 20 2008, 08:42 AM) Fo...   Mar 20 2008, 04:35 PM
- - Grinder   That's cool.   Mar 20 2008, 09:03 AM
- - DocTaotsu   I have to say that I'm getting rather attached...   Mar 20 2008, 09:14 AM
- - DocTaotsu   I have to admit that the cover for Arsenal has gro...   Mar 20 2008, 09:33 AM
- - hermit   Allright, in the topic of artwork. Arsenal's ...   Mar 20 2008, 11:48 AM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 20 2008, 12:48 PM) Wh...   Mar 20 2008, 12:01 PM
- - Grinder   FastFood on deviantart: http://fastfood.deviantart...   Mar 20 2008, 11:53 AM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (Grinder @ Mar 20 2008, 10:53 PM) F...   Mar 20 2008, 12:10 PM
- - Grinder   Gern geschehen. (You're welcome).   Mar 20 2008, 12:18 PM
- - DocTaotsu   I missed dikote originally but when the nostalgia ...   Mar 20 2008, 01:11 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I'm not really sure that dikote added mu...   Mar 20 2008, 01:13 PM
- - Fuchs   Easy enough to re-retcon it in as some standard co...   Mar 20 2008, 01:16 PM
- - DocTaotsu   Exactly what I was going to say. Sure it's st...   Mar 20 2008, 01:19 PM
- - hermit   That would have deserved a mention, though, wouldn...   Mar 20 2008, 01:21 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I dunno, as a writer, I have zero hesitation retco...   Mar 20 2008, 01:29 PM
- - DocTaotsu   I'm not sure it would have bene worth the ink ...   Mar 20 2008, 01:38 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I dunno, as a writer, I have zero hesitation...   Mar 20 2008, 01:41 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I see where removing some things from the setting ...   Mar 20 2008, 03:56 PM
- - crizh   Has anyone else noticed that the LTA mod can be ap...   Mar 20 2008, 05:58 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (crizh @ Mar 20 2008, 06:58 PM) Has...   Mar 21 2008, 10:04 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Mar 21 2008, 10:04 AM)...   Mar 21 2008, 11:46 AM
- - JeffSz   I haven't gotten my copy of Arsenal yet; I...   Mar 21 2008, 05:08 AM
- - DocTaotsu   I have to agree with with JeffSZ here... SR4 could...   Mar 21 2008, 05:58 AM
- - MITJA3000+   I'm still waiting for my copy, but this sounds...   Mar 21 2008, 09:47 AM
|- - Cadmus   QUOTE (MITJA3000+ @ Mar 21 2008, 05...   Mar 21 2008, 10:08 AM
|- - MITJA3000+   QUOTE (Cadmus @ Mar 21 2008, 05:08 AM) I ...   Mar 21 2008, 04:18 PM
|- - Fortune   QUOTE (MITJA3000+ @ Mar 22 2008, 03...   Mar 21 2008, 05:40 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 21 2008, 06:40 PM) I...   Mar 21 2008, 08:16 PM
||- - Fortune   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 07:16 AM) Be...   Mar 22 2008, 02:59 AM
|||- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 21 2008, 07:59 PM) R...   Mar 22 2008, 03:36 AM
||- - Critias   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 04:16 PM) St...   Mar 22 2008, 05:14 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 21 2008, 09:40 AM) I...   Mar 21 2008, 09:28 PM
||- - Moon-Hawk   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Mar 21 2008, 04:28 PM) H...   Mar 21 2008, 10:16 PM
|- - Fix-it   QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 21 2008, 11:40 AM) I...   Mar 22 2008, 12:46 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE ("Jeffsz")"It's YOUR game...   Mar 21 2008, 11:02 AM
- - hermit   Just name it Highwind and give it to Horizon, they...   Mar 21 2008, 11:50 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 21 2008, 12:50 PM) Ju...   Mar 21 2008, 12:20 PM
- - hermit   Final Fantasy 7.   Mar 21 2008, 12:22 PM
- - hobgoblin   heh, silly me   Mar 21 2008, 12:51 PM
- - hermit   Though any FF would work, really, as Airships of a...   Mar 21 2008, 02:41 PM
- - Eugene   Just got Arsenal the other day, and I love it...   Mar 21 2008, 03:17 PM
- - JeffSz   If there are bugs in the rules, they'll get fi...   Mar 21 2008, 04:13 PM
|- - Fabe   QUOTE (JeffSz @ Mar 21 2008, 12:13 PM) ld...   Mar 22 2008, 01:11 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE If there are bugs in the rules, they'll ...   Mar 21 2008, 04:26 PM
- - Nightwalker450   Nitrous Boosters on a car, are an acceleration boo...   Mar 21 2008, 04:39 PM
- - Blade   Just make sure to have different books for glam ro...   Mar 21 2008, 07:57 PM
- - Lyonheart   I wish the tables in the back where bookmarked by ...   Mar 21 2008, 09:52 PM
- - hermit   The Rocker Archetype was in Sprawl Sites. That boo...   Mar 22 2008, 12:04 AM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 01:04 AM) Th...   Mar 22 2008, 12:44 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Sprawl Site's also a SR1 sourcebook. Nop...   Mar 22 2008, 01:48 AM
- - Fuchs   Asphaltdschungel was first Edition I thought.   Mar 22 2008, 02:19 AM
- - Fortune   Sprawl Sites was definitely SR1 in English.   Mar 22 2008, 02:54 AM
- - DMK   I like this book. There's an awful lot to it. ...   Mar 22 2008, 03:13 AM
- - Cadmus   A rigger is not defined by what you put into your ...   Mar 22 2008, 08:33 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE How much more is there that really defines w...   Mar 22 2008, 09:31 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 04:31 AM) - ...   Mar 22 2008, 11:58 AM
- - Fortune   Add in stuff on Electronic Warfare, among other th...   Mar 22 2008, 11:42 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Yeah. A new book, full of material we've...   Mar 22 2008, 12:04 PM
- - Prime Mover   I hate to even get involved in this bait and flame...   Mar 22 2008, 03:32 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE But with sr4 can't you just play a dedic...   Mar 22 2008, 03:55 PM
- - Critias   Listen, Hermit, I'm not sure if you've got...   Mar 22 2008, 04:04 PM
- - Angier   @ hermit awww c'mon. drop it. This is a game ...   Mar 22 2008, 04:05 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE awww c'mon. drop it. This is a game rely...   Mar 22 2008, 04:48 PM
|- - Angier   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 05:48 PM) An...   Mar 22 2008, 05:21 PM
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||- - Demonseed Elite   I live in Segway-town. They are built a few miles ...   Mar 22 2008, 06:38 PM
|- - Synner   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Mar 22 2008, 04...   Mar 22 2008, 06:27 PM
- - hermit   That's my main problem with the vehicles selec...   Mar 22 2008, 05:00 PM
- - Adam   QUOTE Oh and please stop teasing around with the W...   Mar 22 2008, 05:41 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE You don't need world shaking modificatio...   Mar 22 2008, 05:42 PM
- - hermit   Well, give them pintle mounts and armour 20 and yo...   Mar 22 2008, 06:27 PM
- - hermit   Or, you know ... feet and legs.   Mar 22 2008, 06:42 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 22 2008, 02:42 PM) Or...   Mar 22 2008, 06:44 PM
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