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Synner667
post Apr 10 2008, 09:24 PM
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Hi,

Just back from a few days away, and re-reading my SR v4 rulebook..
..Specifically [for the moment] about wireless networks [cross-pollinating the SR info with CyberGeneration info, and some other stuff].


Rereading the stuff about Commlinks, I'm not sure that I see everyone having one..

Base cost is 300¥ [CMT Clip] to actually interact with the world, added is the cost of a display [¥25, Image Link sunglasses] to be able to usefully see the interactive world, and gloves to be able to press virtual buttons [¥250, AR Gloves]..
..So about ¥575 to be able to interact with the virtual world.

The example in the rulebook must be someone with implanted cameras and some sort of realtime optical recognition software, else how would their system be able to put text boxes in the right places [I wonder what the costs are] ??


I earn about £25k/year [about $50k, I think], but I'm not sure I'd want to spend nearly £600 for a portable computer too often.

For many people, not in reasonably wellpaid jobs, would there be a big uptake on them ??
I can't imagine droves of low income people buying them, when they might struggle for rent or food or day-to-day things.


How much coverage would there really be, to cater for the general population [obviously, wealthy people would have nicely infrastructured areas to support wireless networks] ??
Knowing how tech companies are in the realworld, I'm not sure I can see the 2070 ones having installed a huge number of wireless hotspots within 6 years - especially when there were so many repercussions from the 2064 Matrix Crash.


In fact, the Commlink doesn't appear to be anything more than a very powerful wireless smartphone or ultraportable computer [circa a little ahead of now]. with some sophisticated spatial software and the associated hardware.
I don't want to seem a killjoy, but are widespread wireless networking and powerful portable computers really so amazing [the current tech world expect have both of those within the next 10 years] ??

Or is it the interactivity that's the wonderful thing ??
Tho, considering brain-to-machine interfaces will have been around in SR for a while now, I can't see it as being anything amazing.


Do we know anything about the infrastructure for the wireless networks ??
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- Synner667   Commlinks   Apr 10 2008, 09:24 PM
- - Heath Robinson   I believe it's mentioned that the majority of ...   Apr 10 2008, 10:02 PM
- - Professeur   Also, the Commlink isn't just some portable co...   Apr 10 2008, 10:15 PM
- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (Synner667 @ Apr 10 2008, 04:24 PM)...   Apr 10 2008, 10:18 PM
- - nathanross   I also do not like the "everyone has a commli...   Apr 10 2008, 10:27 PM
- - fatal2ty   The way I view a Commlink is an amalgamation of yo...   Apr 10 2008, 11:02 PM
- - b1ffov3rfl0w   Just curious, why do you not like the term "W...   Apr 10 2008, 11:15 PM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 11 2008, 01:15 ...   Apr 11 2008, 07:49 AM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (MYST1C @ Apr 11 2008, 02:49 AM) Sp...   Apr 12 2008, 02:18 AM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 12 2008, 04:18 ...   Apr 12 2008, 09:26 AM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (MYST1C @ Apr 12 2008, 05:26 AM) Ju...   Apr 13 2008, 11:56 PM
|- - MYST1C   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 14 2008, 01:56 ...   Apr 14 2008, 07:48 AM
- - Earlydawn   You know, the basis for 4th Edition Matrix has alw...   Apr 11 2008, 01:16 AM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (Earlydawn @ Apr 10 2008, 08:16 PM)...   Apr 11 2008, 03:01 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   It costs less than that. A trode net is 50 nuyen a...   Apr 11 2008, 01:24 AM
- - ccelizic   the wireless matrix is kinda scary in a "big ...   Apr 11 2008, 06:59 AM
- - Fuchs   Commlink=Smartphone. In the last few years, we sa...   Apr 11 2008, 07:20 AM
- - nathanross   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 10 2008, 07:15 ...   Apr 11 2008, 07:52 AM
- - Fuchs   I like it when SR adapts, and in my campaign, we h...   Apr 11 2008, 08:29 AM
- - ornot   Today mobile phones are tremendously widely used. ...   Apr 11 2008, 10:42 AM
|- - Zak   QUOTE (ornot @ Apr 11 2008, 05:42 AM) Fin...   Apr 11 2008, 10:50 AM
- - fatal2ty   Fiberoptic afro, holy crap, that is possibly the m...   Apr 11 2008, 02:39 PM
- - nathanross   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Apr 11 2008, 03:29 AM) I l...   Apr 11 2008, 05:06 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 11 2008, 12:06 PM...   Apr 11 2008, 05:16 PM
|- - O'Donnell Heir   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 11 2008, 11:06 AM...   Apr 11 2008, 10:59 PM
- - ornot   Hopefully in Unwired they'll introduce rules f...   Apr 11 2008, 05:21 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (ornot @ Apr 11 2008, 12:21 PM) Hop...   Apr 11 2008, 05:26 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   I hope you guys are making mages pay upkeep for th...   Apr 11 2008, 08:28 PM
|- - Nightwalker450   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Apr 11 2008, 03:28...   Apr 11 2008, 08:50 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   As for the price of commlinks: my cell-phone costs...   Apr 11 2008, 08:38 PM
- - nathanross   QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Apr 11 2008, 03:28...   Apr 11 2008, 09:29 PM
|- - ornot   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 11 2008, 04:29 PM...   Apr 12 2008, 12:08 AM
- - b1ffov3rfl0w   Also, if spells were primarily used to deal with (...   Apr 12 2008, 01:40 AM
- - nathanross   QUOTE (O'Donnell Heir @ Apr 11 2008, 06...   Apr 12 2008, 03:18 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 11 2008, 10:18 PM...   Apr 12 2008, 09:24 AM
- - Synner667   Thank you for your input, one and all. Couple of ...   Apr 13 2008, 10:52 PM
|- - ornot   QUOTE (Synner667 @ Apr 13 2008, 06:52 PM)...   Apr 14 2008, 09:28 AM
- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE The easiest and most common way to get your ...   Apr 13 2008, 11:45 PM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Apr 13 2008, 07:4...   Apr 14 2008, 12:04 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 13 2008, 06:04 ...   Apr 14 2008, 12:11 AM
||- - NativeRigger   QUOTE (kzt @ Apr 13 2008, 06:11 PM) If yo...   Apr 14 2008, 01:22 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 14 2008, 01:04 ...   Apr 14 2008, 02:40 AM
|- - Rad   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Apr 13 2008, 06:4...   Apr 14 2008, 12:29 PM
- - kzt   No IEEE standard 802.11 has all wireless PHY and M...   Apr 14 2008, 12:03 AM
- - Shiloh   QUOTE I have no problem with the wireless infrastr...   Apr 14 2008, 09:55 AM
|- - Synner667   QUOTE (Shiloh @ Apr 14 2008, 10:55 AM) As...   Apr 14 2008, 06:24 PM
|- - Eyeless Blond   QUOTE (Synner667 @ Apr 14 2008, 11:24 AM)...   Apr 14 2008, 10:17 PM
- - wanderer_king   AR was a really neat inclusion to SR4 IMO.... I ga...   Apr 14 2008, 10:26 AM
- - Fuchs   I assume walking through the streets of 2070 with ...   Apr 14 2008, 11:59 AM
- - Blade   Actually I suppose that Windows somehow interact w...   Apr 14 2008, 12:37 PM
- - Rad   There's also transparency, which works to a gr...   Apr 14 2008, 02:40 PM
- - Therumancer   Okay, let's look at this from a game design st...   Apr 15 2008, 01:58 AM
- - Eyeless Blond   Ugh, SR as ubiquitous super-nanites? Bleagh; I...   Apr 15 2008, 03:29 AM
- - KCKitsune   Maybe the idea that wireless signals can be routed...   Apr 15 2008, 05:06 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   You've just made the system actively worse. If...   Apr 15 2008, 05:51 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Apr 15 2008, 12:51...   Apr 15 2008, 06:38 AM
- - nathanross   Nice writing Therumancer. You really summed it up....   Apr 15 2008, 06:45 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (nathanross @ Apr 15 2008, 02:45 AM...   Apr 15 2008, 09:14 AM
- - ornot   I can't in all honesty claim "handwavium...   Apr 15 2008, 09:18 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (ornot @ Apr 15 2008, 05:18 AM) I c...   Apr 15 2008, 09:32 AM
- - hobgoblin   to tell the truth, i keep getting the real life fe...   Apr 15 2008, 10:29 AM


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