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masterofm
post Apr 15 2008, 09:01 PM
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Ok I was thinking about the amount of dice that translate into how leety mic leet a shadowrunner actually is. Lets say people are pulling 5-7 hits on average (due to dice pools of 15-24) does it make the runs a shadow run character stand out? I mean I just think that if there are maybe five incidents where it is shown that a bullet always manages to find the same exact chink in the armor, and using ballistics they can find that the same type of rounds and gun was used would this not narrow who could have done something like that to a select few?

Lets not use guns, but instead look at the pornomancer. I don't think someone who throws 30+ dice at a situation has anything to say about not standing out like a sore thumb. An average of around 9-11 hits would probably make (insert your favorite ultra hot celeb) look like a three month old water logged corpse. Wouldn't someone like this not matter how hard they changed around their face still be easily tracked?

I would just think that an entire team that uses high dicepools are very likely be a huge flaming beacon on every single run that they attempt (assuming that the matter is investigated.) Or (and here is the important part) am I just crazy?
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- masterofm   Large dice pools in a skill make a party easy to track?   Apr 15 2008, 09:01 PM
- - Spike   Think you're mostly crazy here. I don't w...   Apr 15 2008, 09:10 PM
- - quentra   I would think so too. It begs the question of why ...   Apr 15 2008, 09:14 PM
- - ArkonC   Being extremely good at somethign and standing out...   Apr 15 2008, 09:15 PM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (masterofm @ Apr 15 2008, 02:01 PM)...   Apr 15 2008, 09:19 PM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (stevebugge @ Apr 15 2008, 04:19 PM...   Apr 16 2008, 11:23 PM
- - masterofm   Well yes fluff wise it doesn't work out I gues...   Apr 15 2008, 09:25 PM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (masterofm @ Apr 15 2008, 02:25 PM)...   Apr 15 2008, 09:34 PM
|- - Zak   QUOTE (masterofm @ Apr 15 2008, 03:25 PM)...   Apr 15 2008, 09:34 PM
- - Zak   Yea, but that has nothing to do with dice pools. ...   Apr 15 2008, 09:30 PM
- - Tarantula   Mind probe/mind control dissipate after Force hour...   Apr 15 2008, 09:33 PM
- - Tarantula   A social conman IS a pornomancer. At least as clo...   Apr 15 2008, 09:36 PM
- - Seriphen   This also brings up another question. Do the diffe...   Apr 15 2008, 09:37 PM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Seriphen @ Apr 15 2008, 02:37 PM) ...   Apr 15 2008, 09:45 PM
- - Spike   Okay: longer response: rolling 80 Dice to rappel ...   Apr 15 2008, 09:37 PM
- - Larme   If the best person ever does multiple jobs, they m...   Apr 15 2008, 09:46 PM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Larme @ Apr 15 2008, 02:46 PM) If ...   Apr 15 2008, 09:49 PM
- - masterofm   All valid points, and yes rappelling down a buildi...   Apr 15 2008, 09:50 PM
- - WeaverMount   I think you would start to stand out under a large...   Apr 15 2008, 10:15 PM
- - masterofm   Very true, but any GM who wants to have a good sto...   Apr 15 2008, 10:22 PM
- - Spike   Well, if this is something you want to keep in min...   Apr 15 2008, 11:07 PM
- - DocTaotsu   Teams that are serious one trick ponies have a pre...   Apr 15 2008, 11:18 PM
- - Spike   Yeah, but just having that straightjacketed MO doe...   Apr 15 2008, 11:45 PM
- - Tarantula   Not to throw this too far off topic... but why doe...   Apr 15 2008, 11:48 PM
- - WeaverMount   @Spike, yeah that is a lot of work but you can use...   Apr 16 2008, 12:10 AM
- - Spike   A bit too much knowledge of how this sort of thing...   Apr 16 2008, 12:22 AM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 15 2008, 06:22 PM) Its...   Apr 16 2008, 01:14 AM
|- - NativeRigger   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 15 2008, 07:22 PM) Rea...   Apr 16 2008, 04:14 PM
- - Glyph   Plus, some roles aren't fair to call "hyp...   Apr 16 2008, 02:04 AM
- - Spike   Then this moves to 'what is an adequete dice p...   Apr 16 2008, 02:29 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 16 2008, 10:29 AM) The...   Apr 16 2008, 03:13 AM
- - Tarantula   First, I don't count attribute 1 characters. ...   Apr 16 2008, 02:59 AM
- - WeaverMount   >Give the sheer volume of Sammies I've seen...   Apr 16 2008, 03:39 AM
- - DocTaotsu   *thinks* I don't think I've sat a table w...   Apr 16 2008, 05:04 AM
- - Glyph   An Attribute of 1 means that you are either too ne...   Apr 16 2008, 05:44 AM
- - masterofm   I agree with quite a lot of what you say except fo...   Apr 16 2008, 06:02 AM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (masterofm @ Apr 16 2008, 01:02 AM)...   Apr 16 2008, 11:36 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 16 2008, 04:36 ...   Apr 16 2008, 11:54 PM
- - Spike   Actually: I don't really read critique my char...   Apr 16 2008, 07:00 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 16 2008, 03:00 AM) Tha...   Apr 16 2008, 07:25 AM
- - masterofm   I look at things on a 1 to 1 basis. Maybe thats w...   Apr 16 2008, 07:12 AM
- - WeaverMount   @MasterofM, All I have to say is that IRL you your...   Apr 16 2008, 07:46 AM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Apr 16 2008, 12:46 A...   Apr 16 2008, 03:17 PM
|- - masterofm   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Apr 16 2008, 03:17 PM)...   Apr 16 2008, 03:51 PM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Apr 16 2008, 10:17 AM)...   Apr 16 2008, 11:42 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 16 2008, 03:00 PM) Tot...   Apr 16 2008, 07:48 AM
- - ElFenrir   I admit, the discussions with ''How much i...   Apr 16 2008, 09:56 AM
- - stevebugge   Our group uses the optional rule that limits the t...   Apr 16 2008, 03:58 PM
- - Spike   QUOTE Agents are semi-autonomous programs capable ...   Apr 16 2008, 04:39 PM
|- - ArkonC   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 16 2008, 06:39 PM) Of ...   Apr 16 2008, 04:50 PM
- - Tarantula   I didn't claim that agents were an AI. Just t...   Apr 16 2008, 04:50 PM
- - IQ Zero   18 dice? 20 dice? Wow, that makes me feel like my ...   Apr 16 2008, 04:58 PM
|- - stevebugge   QUOTE (IQ Zero @ Apr 16 2008, 09:58 AM) 1...   Apr 16 2008, 05:11 PM
- - masterofm   Yes spike I totally agree with you that it seems l...   Apr 16 2008, 05:05 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (masterofm @ Apr 16 2008, 01:05 PM)...   Apr 17 2008, 04:53 AM
- - WeaverMount   Thanks for correcting my dog brain bit. My time on...   Apr 16 2008, 06:00 PM
|- - b1ffov3rfl0w   QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Apr 16 2008, 01:00 P...   Apr 16 2008, 11:49 PM
|- - WeaverMount   QUOTE (b1ffov3rfl0w @ Apr 16 2008, 07:49 ...   Apr 17 2008, 12:08 AM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Apr 16 2008, 05:08 P...   Apr 17 2008, 12:21 AM
- - masterofm   Yes not hurting the game is always nice. That is ...   Apr 16 2008, 06:11 PM
- - Spike   On dice pool sizes: obviously it depends upon your...   Apr 16 2008, 07:29 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Spike @ Apr 16 2008, 12:29 PM) Att...   Apr 16 2008, 07:54 PM
- - Tarantula   As I said, for comparisons of actual intellectual ...   Apr 16 2008, 07:45 PM
- - ElFenrir   Ive always considered the mooks, again, around ski...   Apr 16 2008, 09:04 PM
- - stevebugge   I generally have my general purpose security guard...   Apr 16 2008, 09:06 PM
- - Spike   First of all, you were getting an exerpt from a lo...   Apr 16 2008, 09:10 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, Smartlinks are something i assume do come wi...   Apr 16 2008, 09:57 PM
- - Spike   Eh: I consider 5 or 6 dice scraping the bottom of ...   Apr 16 2008, 10:25 PM
- - ElFenrir   Gear can do a hell of a lot. Even take the Attribu...   Apr 16 2008, 10:38 PM
- - Moya   PC - "I have `15 Hits!" GM - ...   Apr 16 2008, 11:43 PM
- - WeaverMount   I gave up on myself to quickly BBB pg. 158 QUOTE ...   Apr 16 2008, 11:46 PM
- - Tarantula   Dog-brain is more of a name in the way it is used ...   Apr 16 2008, 11:55 PM


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